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ericsson 2011-07-08 21:41

Re: Another proof Elop is a trojan horse
 
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Originally Posted by patlak (Post 1047395)
Pics or GTFO!!!

I should watch my language better, because right now I smell baby poo.

patlak 2011-07-08 21:43

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Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 1047409)
I should watch my language better, because right now I smell baby poo.

Wow, your baby takes a **** whenever you mention, Linux, MeeGo, Symbian, Maemo, N900. Wow, just......WOW. :eek:

ericsson 2011-07-08 21:46

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Originally Posted by momcilo (Post 1047404)
Such conjugation may produce either a genius or an idiot?

Which one is more likely?

You mean objectively? Look at it this way. What you are expressing is that you know the business better than Nokia and Microsoft. Why should anyone believe you, what are your credentials?

misterc 2011-07-08 21:47

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Originally Posted by patlak (Post 1047408)
Let him be, he is filled with optimism concerning the MS-Nokia deal. He has NOK shares. :rolleyes:

he may actually make a bucket of $$$$$$$$$ with those when DeLL or HP grab NOKIA's Intellectual Property and leave the carcase (currently selling models and the brand name) to some Chinese manufacturer...

patlak 2011-07-08 21:50

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Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 1047413)
You mean objectively? Look at it this way. What you are expressing is that you know the business better than Nokia and Microsoft. Why should anyone believe you, what are your credentials?

Microsoft-business? Monopoly-consumer? Competition-bankruptcy?

I really do see the relation and Microsft way of business. Microsoft is having a lovely laugh during smoke break, "let's pull an ELOP on Samsung." And so that's what they did, royalty payment, here we come...

Rauha 2011-07-08 21:52

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Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 1047381)
Please. For what its worth, I have been using Opera (on my Symbian E6) and Firefox on my Ubuntu laptop writing all this "MS-love-propaganda" for the last couple of days. Because I have been installing/uninstalling stupid nonsense (and yes I mean that) MeeGo on my N900.

I believe Nokia and MS is doing the right thing, and I think they will succeed. It makes perfect sense, and they have the brute force to pull it through if necessary, which I doubt they need to do. What all you are saying makes no sense, and it makes no sense because it is only paranoid bull with no root in reality. You are also overplaying the whole deal. The deal is not much different than the deal Nokia had with Symbian, only with Symbian Nokia had much stronger obligations. The deal with Symbian was much tighter than the deal with Microsoft.

Åtminstone du mäste tänkä om din ide at Nokia och Microsoft är 'equal partners'. Det är så otroligt naiva! Har du ingen åsikt om Microsofts business historia?

patlak 2011-07-08 21:54

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Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1047414)
he may actually make a bucket of $$$$$$$$$ with those when DeLL or HP grab NOKIA's Intellectual Property and leave the carcase (currently selling models and the brand name) to some Chinese manufacturer...

So let's stay on the BigGoodGuber side. He might share some $$$$$$ with us. :rolleyes:

BigBadGuber! 2011-07-08 21:54

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Originally Posted by patlak (Post 1047388)
Nokia N900 did really well with no advertising whatsoever. I see lots of girls with a N900 around me and more that are interested in my N900. You are just another fanboy deluded by Elop's failure of a decision (I mean for the consumer, not Microsoft).

Btw, US market is not interested in Sea Ray, they are interested in the N9 and MeeGo. Last time I heard, WP7 sales suck even in their home turf. Read up a bit more and stop putting all that trust in the WP7 deal since you bought NOK shares and the price went up 1$/share. I suggest you sell now before it gets down to 2/share unless Nokia sells the N9 in more markets ASAP.

Maybe N900 sold in Third World countries where you reside, and USA market is interested in WP7 on better devices. Everyone knows windows, no one cares about a girly name like Meego. Who the hell would like to say my phone runs on Meego? Some third world pariah states

BigBadGuber! 2011-07-08 21:57

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Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1047403)
the only reason why the N9 won't sell big in the states is because Flop decided it wouldn't be sold there.
that's easy to foresee.
i really don't understand why the same hardware, which is hardly more then a iPhone without button on the face should do any better with a software that is getting less and less popular every day.
mind elaborating?

Because its beautiful and the WP7 software is more idiot proof than anything Nokia has to offer right now.

ericsson 2011-07-08 21:58

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Originally Posted by patlak (Post 1047418)
Microsoft-business? Monopoly-consumer? Competition-bankruptcy?

I really do see the relation and Microsft way of business. Microsoft is having a lovely laugh during smoke break, "let's pull an ELOP on Samsung." And so that's what they did, royalty payment, here we come...

Ok then, so you are more informed about the OS business than Nokia? is that what you are saying? Nokia has been into the OS business for a number of years now, and I think - I know for a fact - they have bumped into Microsoft from time to time, quite often actually, during all these years.

BigBadGuber! 2011-07-08 22:00

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The more I read the posts on this thread, and other threads, I am convinced that all the NOKIA dead wood has descended at maemo.org, and is venting their anger at inevitable changes. Its fun reading the dinosaurs on this site.

patlak 2011-07-08 22:00

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Originally Posted by BigBadGuber! (Post 1047427)
Maybe N900 sold in Third World countries where you reside, and USA market is interested in WP7 on better devices. Everyone knows windows, no one cares about a girly name like Meego. Who the hell would like to say my phone runs on Meego? Some third world pariah states

I can imagine Americans saying, my phone runs ManGo. Gay as f*ck. WP7 sales suck in the US, get real and stop saying it sold well and that they all love WIndows. US is interested in MeeGo since the unveiling, accept that fact and dear Mr. Elop is not interested in selling it in the states.

misterc 2011-07-08 22:01

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Originally Posted by Rauha (Post 1047423)
Åtminstone du mäste tänkä om din ide at Nokia och Microsoft är 'equal partners'. Det är så otroligt naiva! Har du ingen åsikt om Microsofts business historia?

he doesn't know nor does he care to learn history;
neither in regards to m$'s business policy nor with respects to their technological incompetency.

you can post to him in any language you want, he won't "listen".

BigBadGuber! 2011-07-08 22:04

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Originally Posted by patlak (Post 1047431)
I can imagine Americans saying, my phone runs ManGo. Gay as f*ck. WP7 sales suck in the US, get real and stop saying it sold well and that they all love WIndows. US is interested in MeeGo since the unveiling, accept that fact and dear Mr. Elop is not interested in selling it in the states.

I have seen plenty of WP7 phones on the streets of USA....the only NOKIA phones I see are penny phones sold at Kmart and TARGET.......have you even been to the USA

misterc 2011-07-08 22:05

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Originally Posted by BigBadGuber! (Post 1047428)
Because its beautiful and the WP7 software is more idiot proof than anything Nokia has to offer right now.

thus only idiots buy wp device?
that makes for a challenging smart phones market all right ¦-)

patlak 2011-07-08 22:05

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Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 1047429)
Ok then, so you are more informed about the OS business than Nokia? is that what you are saying? Nokia has been into the OS business for a number of years now, and I think - I know for a fact - they have bumped into Microsoft from time to time, quite often actually, during all these years.

Contradicting ourselves are we?

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=167

When did you find out that Nokia developed software? Wasn't it just hardware?

patlak 2011-07-08 22:07

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Originally Posted by BigBadGuber! (Post 1047433)
I have seen plenty of WP7 phones on the streets of USA....the only NOKIA phones I see are penny phones sold at Kmart and TARGET.......have you even been to the USA

Yes, I have. Lived there for 3 years and actually, imagine this, I bought a 3650.

BigBadGuber! 2011-07-08 22:07

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Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1047436)
thus only idiots buy wp device?
that makes for a challenging smart phones market all right ¦-)

As long as it is idiot proof phone, it will sell well. NOKIA with all its menus and submenus is a deal breaker

BigBadGuber! 2011-07-08 22:09

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Originally Posted by patlak (Post 1047440)
Yes, I have. Lived there for 3 years and actually, imagine this, I bought a 3650.

Now that is a relic

patlak 2011-07-08 22:09

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Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1047432)
he doesn't know nor does he care to learn history;
neither in regards to m$'s business policy nor with respects to their technological incompetency.

you can post to him in any language you want, he won't "listen".

He'll listen only to the language spat out by Ballmer's juicy mouth. Remember, he's Elop in disguise. :D

misterc 2011-07-08 22:11

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just reported BBG for racism
see how long that takes...

patlak 2011-07-08 22:11

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Originally Posted by BigBadGuber! (Post 1047433)
I have seen plenty of WP7 phones on the streets of USA....the only NOKIA phones I see are penny phones sold at Kmart and TARGET.......have you even been to the USA

You must live on a farm in Texas. US got scared from Nokia phones, so they surrounded your state with sh*t loads of tornadoes.

patlak 2011-07-08 22:13

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Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1047436)
thus only idiots buy wp device?
that makes for a challenging smart phones market all right ¦-)

Do you have his address, I am willing to send him my 3210. :D

BigBadGuber! 2011-07-08 22:14

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Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1047448)
just reported BBG for racism
see how long that takes...

LOL! I bet they will listen to NOKIA dead wood.

patlak 2011-07-08 22:16

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Originally Posted by BigBadGuber! (Post 1047441)
As long as it is idiot proof phone, it will sell well. NOKIA with all its menus and submenus is a deal breaker

OMG, I can't use Harmattan or Fremantle. There are so many submenus. It's exactly like Symbian. Their browser must suck also, since it sucks on Symbian.

BigBadGuber! 2011-07-08 22:16

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Originally Posted by patlak (Post 1047449)
You must live on a farm in Texas. US got scared from Nokia phones, so they surrounded your state with sh*t loads of tornadoes.

Actually I do. Houston, Texas, where everything flies. Its Third World down here too, yet everyone uses BB, or iphone. Even NOKIA penny's are hard to see. The only pre-ELOP NOKIA lovers are on HIllcroft avenue where Indian cell store owners try to push NOKIA phones.

BigBadGuber! 2011-07-08 22:17

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Originally Posted by patlak (Post 1047457)
OMG, I can't use Harmattan or Fremantle. There are so many submenus. It's exactly like Symbian. Their browser must suck also, since it sucks on Symbian.

Harmattan......another well recognized name in the world.........it will skyrocket NOKIA value

misterc 2011-07-08 22:19

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Originally Posted by patlak (Post 1047451)
Do you have his address, I am willing to send him my 3210. :D

too many buttons, wouldn't know which to press ;)

patlak 2011-07-08 22:23

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Originally Posted by BigBadGuber! (Post 1047460)
Harmattan......another well recognized name in the world.........it will skyrocket NOKIA value

It did exactly that, and then, Sea Ray came and f*cked it up. You better pray it skyrockets your stock value again.

Windows Phone 7 - lovely name, especially the following updates, NoDo and Mango. Well recognized among the 2 million user base. They sure do enjoy the beauty of it.

BigBadGuber! 2011-07-08 22:24

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Originally Posted by patlak (Post 1047440)
Yes, I have. Lived there for 3 years and actually, imagine this, I bought a 3650.

You must of been real cool with that phone. What was your pick up line? Hey honey, I aint as old as this thing in my hand:)

patlak 2011-07-08 22:25

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Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1047463)
too many buttons, wouldn't know which to press ;)

It's additionally complicated, since it has a removable battery (shall I use my fingers, toes or my teeth to pop it open). :D

misterc 2011-07-08 22:28

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Originally Posted by patlak (Post 1047469)
It's additionally complicated, since it has a removable battery (shall I use my fingers, toes or my teeth to pop it open). :D

slam it with his fist?
idiot proof, remember?

patlak 2011-07-08 22:28

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Originally Posted by BigBadGuber! (Post 1047468)
You must of been real cool with that phone. What was your pick up line? Hey honey, I aint as old as this thing in my hand:)

Did i ever mention during what period I was leaving in the US? You have no clue how young or old that phone was. And good luck using Mango to pick up them ladies. ;)

patlak 2011-07-08 22:30

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Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1047471)
slam it with his fist?
idiot proof, remember?

An idiot would actually use a corkscrew. :p

BigBadGuber! 2011-07-08 22:31

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Originally Posted by patlak (Post 1047472)
Did i ever mention during what period I was leaving in the US? You have no clue how young or old that phone was. And good luck using Mango to pick up them ladies. ;)

I am trying to help you out, given your need to use phones for pickup. If you were in the US flashing those penny phones, they may mistake you for a terrorist and deport you back home. They arent that nice around here.

misterc 2011-07-08 22:32

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Originally Posted by patlak (Post 1047472)
Did i ever mention during what period I was leaving in the US? You have no clue how young or old that phone was. And good luck using Mango to pick up them ladies. ;)

i had a 7650 in those days...
days where red necks didn't have dial-up yet. :rolleyes:

patlak 2011-07-08 22:35

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Originally Posted by BigBadGuber! (Post 1047475)
I am trying to help you out, given your need to use phones for pickup. If you were in the US flashing those penny phones, they may mistake you for a terrorist and deport you back home. They arent that nice around here.

In what way did I connect the 3650 with picking up girls? You seem to be in need of assistance since you opened that topic.

That's why I was living in Florida, el Cubanos protected me. ;)

qwazix 2011-07-08 22:43

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Originally Posted by BigBadGuber! (Post 1047433)
I have seen plenty of WP7 phones on the streets of USA....the only NOKIA phones I see are penny phones sold at Kmart and TARGET.......have you even been to the USA

Exactly. Nokia in the states has been connected to the $20 feature phone. How another WP7 phone with the same hardware as last year's failed HD7 (and optimus 7, and Focus and...) and a NOKIA sticker on it will sell better?

BigBadGuber! 2011-07-08 22:46

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Originally Posted by qwazix (Post 1047479)
Exactly. Nokia in the states has been connected to the $20 feature phone. How another WP7 phone with the same hardware as last year's failed HD7 (and optimus 7, and Focus and...) and a NOKIA sticker on it will sell better?

Wait and see....Empire strikes back...

misterc 2011-07-08 22:46

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Originally Posted by patlak (Post 1047478)
In what way did I connect the 3650 with picking up girls? [...]

that's the only reason he ever is in town...


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