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lma 2011-07-25 07:34
Re: [Council] Council_Update-July_2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 1054892)
Having just scrolled through two pages of non-productive crap, I suggest such discussions don't a) occur on this thread and b) maybe not even on this forum.
+1. I suggest a new thread on this forum[1] specifically about the community hosting and maintenance of non-forum[2] maemo.org infrastructure. Off-topic posts to that thread should be moderated with extreme prejudice.


[1] simply because it can be moderated more easily than the mailing list
[2] the future of tmo is really up to Reggie IMHO

abill_uk 2011-07-25 07:41
Re: [Council] Council_Update-July_2011
 
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Originally Posted by lma (Post 1057694)
+1. I suggest a new thread on this forum[1] specifically about the community hosting and maintenance of non-forum[2] maemo.org infrastructure. Off-topic posts to that thread should be moderated with extreme prejudice.


[1] simply because it can be moderated more easily than the mailing list
[2] the future of tmo is really up to Reggie IMHO
With posts like this all you will achieve is to alienate the very people who use this forum sorry to say.

misterc 2011-07-25 07:44
Re: [Council] Council_Update-July_2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 1057688)
Yes i know how it is but you know what gets me is the fact that they will have talked about Maemo.org in great detail i dont doubt but we are the last people to find out anything :confused:.
anymore questons? :D

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Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1056673)
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but of course, banning (even temporarily) is just one of those autocratic reaction, denying open & free speech.
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Žnough said :mad:

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Quote:
Originally Posted by lma (Post 1057694)
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[2] the future of tmo is really up to Reggie IMHO
TMO is really what is @ stake here, isn't it?

abill_uk 2011-07-25 07:47
Re: [Council] Council_Update-July_2011
 
Like it or not we DO have a situation on our hands in that Maemo as far as Nokia is concerned been whitewashed and finished with as no further development will take place from them.

Where do we get advised if not on a council thread that is public?.

abill_uk 2011-07-25 07:52
Re: [Council] Council_Update-July_2011
 
If you do not want your washing aired in public then do not start a thread with the title "[Council] Council_Update-July_2011 " as this IS public for everyone to read.

All we want are some answers as to the future of TMO:confused:.

lma 2011-07-25 08:00
Re: [Council] Council_Update-July_2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 1055917)
I wouldn't say "acclaim" is the right word (in the most common meaning); maybe "selected because no-one else would get off their arse and volunteer [and thus give 6 or more candidates for 5 positions, meaning an election is required]".
I confess I briefly thought about it, but without a 7th candidate it would just cancel out the last one's (conditional) entry and at the end decided "better him than me". Gaming the system doesn't do any of us any favours.

Since it's brought up, I would like to propose (assuming there is a next time) that we close the loophole that allows a non-elected council. The spirit of the rules (as the page says at the top) is "The 5 council members will be elected by the community" so this seems more like an off-by-1 error than an intended case anyway. The simplest fix would be s/fewer/no more/ in:
Code:
10. If fewer than 5 candidates stand for election, the 3 with the most votes are elected to the council.

lma 2011-07-25 08:08
Re: [Council] Council_Update-July_2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1057696)
TMO is really what is @ stake here, isn't it?
No, it is only a small part of maemo.org and as I said it's really up to Reggie.

How would you like it if all existing Maemo apps, as well as the infrastructure to develop new ones, community SSUs etc all disappeared in a few months when Nokia funding dries up? Because that's what at stake here.

misterc 2011-07-25 08:16
Re: [Council] Council_Update-July_2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lma (Post 1057704)
No, it is only a small part of maemo.org and as I said it's really up to Reggie.

How would you like it if all existing Maemo apps, as well as the infrastructure to develop new ones, community SSUs etc all disappeared in a few months when Nokia funding dries up? Because that's what at stake here.
like abill pointed out, your holding "meetings" on irc channels & all instead on being on TMO shows badly, with this post :(

Future of Maemo 5 Fremantle

don't know to what (lucky?) circumstance we owe your presence here today, but maybe you'll have some time to read up a possible answer to your question?

abill_uk 2011-07-25 08:41
Re: [Council] Council_Update-July_2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ysss (Post 1057690)
You're acting like a child.
They whine or they try to annoy the adults when they want attention/their diapers changed.

Any mature person knows that they should show (and earn) respect to be taken seriously.

(texcuse my avatar. )
This is the kind of posting that should be abolished on this forum because it is not only trolling and flaming trying to start argument, he will never give up this kind of behaviour unless something is done about him.

Shame on you ysss when all we are trying to do is get some answers ! and you yourself said "whining and ranting is the only way to get answers sometimes".

Whoever it was directed at !.

lma 2011-07-25 09:05
Re: [Council] Council_Update-July_2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1057706)
like abill pointed out
Would you like to point to a specific post (due to this thread he has become the first and only occupant in my ignore list)?

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your holding "meetings" on irc channels & all instead on being on TMO shows badly, with this post :(
Oh please. I am not holding any meetings anywhere, and in fact I just said we should discuss this in this very forum, just on a new thread without trolls and off-topic diversions.

I don't care about Fremantle personally.

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don't know to what (lucky?) circumstance we owe your presence here today, but maybe you'll have some time to read up a possible answer to your question?
Sorry, I don't understand this sentence.


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