Email: Pine, Elm, Mutt for n800?
 

Hello n800 users
I was using the Pine email client on the 1st N800 OS. Now the previous OS & the newest one are incompatible with Pine. Ive tried installing Pine from Apps Mgr and from a deb and I get an error "pine is not compatible with this vers of OS".

HAs anyone here discovered a trick for making Pine install & work? Alternately, is there a N800 Port for elm or mutt email clients.

I was using Pine to log in and "Vet" my email deleting spam and files with big attachments before pulling down the "good" email to the N800 with a POP3 email client.

any ideas would be appreciated
thanks
stephen
drjazz1947@yahoo.com
www.swingkats.com

Re: Email: Pine, Elm, Mutt for n800?
 

Where did you find Pine? It's not in any of the repos I've used. It could be a simple matter, but I would need to see the .deb.

Re: Email: Pine, Elm, Mutt for n800?
 

??? Pine ???

I'm actually porting it to maemo ...

So you are saying that there is already a port of pine on Maemo ?

For information, i ll release a alpha version in one week.

Ps : if you want i can send you a snapshoot sources of the actual port developpment. It's not well integrated to maemo ... but it s work.

Re: Email: Pine, Elm, Mutt for n800?
 

I'd like just Pico myself...but a friend of mine at UNC uses Pine to this very day for ALL of his email. He refuses to use anything else.

Re: Email: Pine, Elm, Mutt for n800?
 

ftp://ftp.infradead.org/pub/maemo/

It's for the 770 though, but a simple (hah! not for me, people!) recompile to an armel.deb package should make it go on the N800.

For the interested, here's a demonstration of pine on the 770:

http://david.woodhou.se/maemo-pine.html

Re: Email: Pine, Elm, Mutt for n800?
 

Arf ...

Pyne != Pine

I ve read Pyne not PINE. Not really the same things :)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1390/...75f10c.jpg?v=0

Re: Email: Pine, Elm, Mutt for n800?
 

Kewl! Does that thing do Usenet too?

Re: Email: Pine, Elm, Mutt for n800? Old Pine Deb
 

Hello
thanks to all who replied. I found the Pine.4.64-1_arm.deb via a google search in March 2007 , cant remember where.

Ive uploaded this Pine deb (temporarily) to my sever so you developer folks can have a look at it and study it.
http://66.207.80.93/stuff/

This Deb for Pine did work on the 1st vers of the OS that shipped with the N800 when I bought it in N800, but no longer installs with the newer firmware.

please advise me if you have a new/better Pine port that works with this new firmware.

many thanks
stephen
drjazz1947@yahoo.com

Re: Email: Pine, Elm, Mutt for n800?
 

Yes ...

I'am testing it at this time ...

Re: Email: Pine, Elm, Mutt for n800?
 

That's good news! Re the future of pine, a successor is being developed. It's called Alpine and is close to graduate from the alpha development / testing. See the news here,

http://www.washington.edu/alpine/

One problem with Pine is the handling of foreign character sets. On the Nokia IT OS the default character set is UTF-8 (that's what xterm is running with and apparently can't be changed to say any of the ISO-8859-x) char sets and Pine doesn't correctly deal with that. Hopefully, Alpine will work better in this regard.

-- Denis

Re: Email: Pine, Elm, Mutt for n800? Old Pine Deb
 

There's none that I know right now. Previously, there were two compiled versions floating around. On my n770 I used the version compiled by Jim Carter

http://www.math.ucla.edu/~jimc/nokia770/

He still has a depository for this version,

http://www.math.ucla.edu/~jimc/nokia770 mistral user

it depends on ncurses-base (currently available for the n800) and mime-support (repository.maemo.org - mistral - free).

If you add those two depositories and attempt an install, the Application manager attemtps the install and eventually reports failure... but it actually ends up installing the pine binary. And it works, sans the mime-support. But this is not to be encouraged as it upsets the dependencies accounting of several apps, ie., after this I couldn't uninstall an app such as evince.

So it would be much better to wait until an official pine 4.64 is readied for the n800! In the meantime, the Claws email program for the n800 is a superb alternative to the wretched default email program included in the Nokia firmware.

-- Denis

Re: Email: Pine, Elm, Mutt for n800?
 

I know it is not related to pine, but I started out this project: https://garage.maemo.org/projects/mmh (that also gave me a developer discount code for my n800 :D) a while ago.

As Claws mail came out I stopped working on it.
But now that I have been using Claws for a while and I saw how such a program should look on the iPhone, I was planning to work on it again.

As you can see from the pages on the garage project my idea is to bring nmh (http://www.nongnu.org/nmh/) for mail handling, fetchmail (http://fetchmail.berlios.de/) for mail retrieval and procmail (http://www.procmail.org/) for mail filtering, into the tablet and develop, from scratch, a user interface for those command line programs in python.

update: the decision to use those programs is still not final. I am studying a bunch of alternatives such as exim (http://www.exim.org/)

Whoever is willing to help, is welcome.

Re: Email: Pine, Elm, Mutt for n800?
 

@drjazz1947:
I looked at the pine deb, the executable is for the arm target, not the armel target, and it's sufficiently different that it can't run on the N800 (or presumably anything newer than the first OS2005 version).

Some times the problem is simply that the .deb control file is set up incorrectly, e.g. not setting category to 'user', and then it can easily be tweaked by unpacking, editing and repackaging the deb. For this pine you'll need to recompile from source instead.

Re: Email: Pine, Elm, Mutt for n800?
 

Hello TA-T3
thanks for looking at the Pine deb & for your explanation about why it only worked on the first OS. I guess we'll have to wait to someone is able to recompile/recreate Pine for the newest n800 firmware.

Someone mention Alpine as the next replacement for Pine. I did try out the version for PC ubuntu linux 7.04 and it works okay.

maybe we can have a port of alpine for the N800 also?

Pine was very good for previewing your email and getting rid of spam before you download your email to the N800 with a POP3 client.

many thanks
stephen
drjazz1947@yahoo.com

Re: Email: Pine, Elm, Mutt for n800?
 

The binary available at the repository www.math.ucla.edu/~jimc that I mentioned before runs fine on the n800 with the latest firmware update. I simply moved the working binary from my old n770 to the n800 (/usr/bin)... provided you have installed package ncurse-base it runs fine. But missing is the support for mime which depends on a library that has not been ported to IT OS 2007.

-- Denis

Re: Email: Pine, Elm, Mutt for n800?
 

Yes, that's an armel binary (the other one was an arm, not armel, binary). It should work.

Re: Email: Pine, Elm, Mutt for n800?
 

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Hi to Dennis & All
thanks for youre information . Instead of installing the "JIMC" armel deb directly which would not install

I added Jimc repository in the applications manager and turned on red pill & installed Ncurses-Base. Then I used the Apps Mgr to install Pine, which it downloaded and then pine went through the install message but aborted with an error.

What I had not realized , until you guys pointed it out, that despite this "install error" some functional version of Pine was nonetheless installed by the apps mgr & I was able to start pine from an xterm session !

I hope we get a clean port of Pine or Alpine in the future but in the meantime, this hack works.
Thanks very much to all who assisted

stephen
drjazz1947@yahoo.com



http://www.math.ucla.edu/~jimc/nokia770 mistral user

it depends on ncurses-base (currently available for the n800) and mime-support (repository.maemo.org - mistral - free).