1 GHz S40 is here
 

http://www.gsmarena.com/1ghz_s40base...-news-2902.php

Looks like S40 is da man :D Seriously, this is interesting.

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Wow! Fast for a throw away phone! (old school phone)

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lol
why would nokia place a 1ghz processor and 512mb ram in a "s40" cellphone?

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FYI
an arm11 1GHz = 600MHz arm cortex a8
However, nothing indicates it's holding an arm11 but I expect that.

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Qt is coming to S40. Wow.

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thats still too much..
nokia gave a linux phone 600mhz.. a s60 with 512 ram and 600mhz processor?
hard to believe..

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512MB on RAM is a lot. Current C3-00 has 64MB of RAM.

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Yes, this seems strange, but it is true apparently. Web apps and java,

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sure its not a rumor?
even if, u cant fit a good battery with a 1ghz processor and 512 in that tiny thing.. we all see how n900 turned out..
i wont agree till i see it in the market..

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i guess they are making in a bit future proof.

s40 is turning smart. by anyone standards.

nokia will keep it martket share... but not because WP7

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I sort of doubt the 512MB of RAM because with S40 there really is no need for that much (because there is nothing that can use that much lol).
The 1GHz I believe if its an ARM11 as stated above.

And 'tis true that 1GHz ARM11 = ~600MHz Cortex A8.
So if anyone has an old android phone that's running/overclocked to 770MHz like a Cliq, that's similar performance to 460HMz Cortex A8.

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why not? maybe it's more efficient to run at high speed less often than all the time at a lower speed. just like overclocking the n900 can increase battery life if you keep the voltage the same.

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A phone with such specs shall at least encompass a full QWERTY keyboard,
not saying that this is fake but there's a slight percentage that it is.

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Like someone said somewhere, sounds like running Windows 95 on a core i7 & 16gigs of RAM. Why?? Just because you can! :D
Ofcourse, it might me an ARM11 CPU like stated in the posts above. But 512MB RAM?? For what? Almost every OS made by Nokia is optimized to work even in low memory scenarios. Memory efficient Operating Systems. Android could take a hint from Nokia on that.
So why 512MB RAM on a s40 OS considering, S40 can't even run more than one app at a time? Even the current Nokia flagship phones run on lower RAM. Makes me wonder whether Nokia has a flagship anymore. The N8 is aging and the N9 is still in the cloud. (Well, Elop wouldnt consider N9 a flagship I guess)

So in short, Nokia's decisions make me puzzled and confused at times. I'll hold onto my N900 till it lasts. I jus love this community and my N900. But another Nokia?? No thanks!

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qtquick can be quite demanding on cpu and ram.

and the point of s40 its suppose to get dumbed n9-like interface and multitask.

it kinda makes sense.

there are rumors a n801
1ghz 512mb ram, n8 camera, better screen. being released too. with symbian belle end of the year.

then symbian belle update later 2012

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Now I'm interested in what they have for s40 phones, small but powerful enough for light browsing sessions and batterylife long enough to be also used as a phone.

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S40 has had the ability to multitask since 2007 at least, but it has not been used/enabled (by Nokia). With some modding you can do it yourself though.

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Looks like Nokia is still in the spec race! Only, about.. Hmm.. two years behind or so? Maybe they wnna prep their next wave of S40 for something post-anna like Symbian Ötzi.

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Really? What S40 price range phone or any feature phone for that matter had 1GHz processor in 2009? Do any have 1GHz even in 2011?

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Symbian will disappear. IMO S40 will eventually become Maemo/Meego or some derivative of Linux + Qt based UI/ecosystem combo.

In any case S40 is to compete with the low end Android and below.

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cheap android have 600-800mhz , same old iphones
but they are not that cheap.

stll hitting 300 price.

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I just got a Motorola DEXT for $100, its the perfect back up phone.
It's basically an iPhone 3G, but with a decent qwerty, better camera/memory and a much better OS (CM7 - 2.3.4).

I previously also got a Motorola Milestone for $200 -> Gift.
I missed out on purchasing a HTC Desire Z for $250.
I would've paid much more for the EPIC 4G if it had GSM-3G radios, stupid Samsung!
Now I'm just waiting for a decent dualcore qwerty upgrade, Milestone3 looks promising if it comes with unlocked bootloader+rootable and 1GB of RAM.

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From what I've read, the Droid 3, AKA Milestone 3, has 512MB RAM. Wish I was wrong...

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1ghz and 512mb ram for a s40 phone is crazy. Won't that compete with wp7? Even if it comes next year.

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makes perfect sense with Nokia's strategy for the 'next billion', powerful cheap s40, Qt.

Here are some articles:

http://conversations.nokia.com/2011/...-next-billion/

http://thenextweb.com/africa/2011/06...d-impressions/

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...0702-1,00.html

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1GHz/512MB on S40? I kind of like the idea. With Qt it could make a phone with an appealing UX, killer battery life, reasonable price.

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I saw the 512mb commenting too, what a waste!

I know 512MB is actually HEAPS & HEAPS & HEAPS of memory, but I see so many ineffeciencies within Android and from Android Apps, that it will be necessary to have 1GB RAM in the future for some applications (especially powerful ones we'd all want to use), so they've not really future-proofed it.

I just want the next generation Milestone future-proofed:
1) Rootable
2) Unlocked Bootloader (within 3months of availability)
3) 1GB RAM
4) All regular features like ffcamera, gyro
if possible:
5) Made with common sense (have the volume rocker on right side, have camera button, have webtop/lapdock access)

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My guess symbian belle == Harmattan Swipe UI and if we take a look at QT-components on symbian and Harmattan its almost the same. except some theming.

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Gawd daaaaaymn. At that spec point, why don't they just stick a dumbed-down version of harmattan in it? If they are killing S60 and want to compete with low-end androids, and make high end faturephones (I assume at a 250 euro price range) put maemo on it, make it more foolproof/ battery and small screen friendly than the N900, and you blow away pretty much everything at that price point.

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I guess S40 is a "tighter fit" of an OS for the purpose (less overhead from the engineerig pov). And, how realistic would it be using Harmattan on ARM11 anyway?

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Well, the first generation of android cellphones ran on ARM11. My previous phone, the HTC Hero, ran on a 500mhz ARM11, and it mostly ran a seriously underoptimised OS (android 1.6). The first wildfire also ran on the same chipset.

Comparing the OSes, maemo 5 (and I presume harmattan) is way, way more optimised than the early android versions. By getting rid of the android java VM, clocking the CPU at maybe 600mhz, adding of course half a gig of RAM and maybe making the UX lighter on effects and such, I have a gut feeling that the experience would be more than passable. That Hero could do some seriously impressive stuff, considering its hardware. If it ran Maemo 5 or Harmattan and was priced at 250 euros, I'd buy it today in a heartbeat.

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first generation of android phone was as simple as s40 though, considered by many sluggish. mainly due its virtual machine.

it wasn't until droid galaxy s, sony ericsson xperia x10 that its start to gain some traction

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That's what I'm saying. Maemo makes way better use of system resources than Android. In the dark days of 1.6, it wasn't rare to see the CPU working its arse off, doing nothing. I had installed some memory and system management utilities and many a time I wanted to bang my head into the nearest wall. The latter versions were much better, but still if you found the phone on a bad day even opening a media player could grind the phone to a halt (in 1.6, opening a media player would ALWAYS grind the phone to a halt).

Maemo, for all its quirks and idiocyncrasies, was never as bad. Optimize it for OMAP 2, make the process scheduler and memory manager more aggressive, give it a lighter UX, and the phone will do, not excellently, but passably. I can guarantee you that even modern low end androids today do no better (anything lower than an 800 mhz OMAP3, and even that's pushing it).

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So the Nokia 1GHz featurefone was true.

Its sad that its a 999MHz ARM11 CPU = ~600MHz ARM Cortex A8 CPU.
GPU is same as with N8's so it's on-par with SGX535 (iPhone 3GS).
It's run on a limited 256MB RAM, stored on a 512MB NAND.
http://www.developer.nokia.com/Devic...fications/500/

All-in-all, its about as powerful as the Motorola Droid or (stock) Nokia N900 ... so this "smartphone" is ONLY one year and 10 months late!

Everyone check out the various advertisements on YouTube (from yesterday) about the Nokia 500:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75383&page=2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YJdCO-F9Bc

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I'd be interested to know how you define a 'smartphone'. You need to take into account that this device is priced at 150 euros.

P.S. The 500 doesn't have a GPU. :p

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its suppose to be cheap.

n900 never hit much below 300 euros.
this phones should sell 200euros. or less.

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Pointless comparison.

Processor is about same as in Huawei, ZTE and low end Samsung Android phones.

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Also, this one is a smartphone, as it's running Symbian Anna and thus it can run all current Symbian applications. For me, that's a smartphone. It's not running S40.

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Kangal, you are showing your ignorance, and this is the wrong thread. The 500 is running Symbian Anna. It has nothing to do with the 1 GHz S40 coming.

Crash course in Nokia Technology:
S40 = Feature phone platform on top of Nokia OS.
Symbian = Smartphone OS (Once it ruled the world of smartphones >50% market share).

So everybody, this is why it is impossible to have a decent debate around here. Way too much ignorance.

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nokia problem isnt low end.

but high end.

sadly wp7 wont fix that.