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ysss 2011-08-05 19:27

Re: COmmunity rant thread.
 
No.

Just one of many wrong assumptions made (and acted upon) resulting in poor communication.

gerbick 2011-08-05 19:50

Re: COmmunity rant thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1064802)
is it so difficult to follow a discussion.

When it makes no sense as to why it's ongoing, yes. It is quite difficult to follow a discussion.

And why are you handing out free sex changes?

sjgadsby 2011-08-05 19:56

Re: COmmunity rant thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1064814)
btw, when you (moderators) look @ a thread, your IDs don't show on the list but you still add up to the number of ppl viewing as members.

That's not moderators; that's people who have checked the "Use Invisible Mode" box. Granted, those sets do intersect.

(And some people can see invisible people.)

daperl 2011-08-05 20:03

Re: COmmunity rant thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1064793)
what you are thinking of, in whatever form, requires multiple joins on the "ignore list" table.

You're thinking too big and too unoptimized. Any joins would be very small, number matrix joins of data that would only be fetched once per page request in the worst case:

requesting member ignore list uids x post "quoted user" uids (mostly 1, rarely >= 2, often 0)

And of the three major steps of normal forum usage, these small, simple comparisons would only be needed in steps two and three.

Some server-side functions that would need modifying:
  • Add, change or delete a post
  • Request a list of unread threads
  • Request a thread

misterc 2011-08-05 20:05

Re: COmmunity rant thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 1064825)
That's not moderators; that's people who have checked the "Use Invisible Mode" box. Granted, those sets do intersect.

(And some people can see invisible people.)

i'm sure you can :rolleyes:
well, that leaves the outbox to be added...

BTW: what are you afraid off, that you don't want to show your ID?
:D

misterc 2011-08-05 20:29

Re: COmmunity rant thread.
 
Quote:

You're thinking too big and too unoptimized. Any joins would be very small, number matrix joins of data that would only be fetched once per page request in the worst case:

requesting member ignore list uids x post "quoted user" uids (mostly 1, rarely >= 2, often 0)
matrix?
i'd see a tensor / 3rd dimension (10 posts per page)?

Quote:

Originally Posted by daperl (Post 1064828)
And of the three major steps of normal forum usage, these small, simple comparisons would only be needed in steps two and three.

you see, this is where i start having a problem...
what if your feature has such a success that everybody starts adding 1/2 a dozen ppl to his/her ignore list...
  • user opens forum page
  • for all the authors of posts on that page, check normal ignore list
  • for all posts with quote, check if quoted author is on ignore list
    • like i put on the 1st quote now, i removed the ID part thus you are not identified as author any more but it's still your post, isn't it?
    • my main problem, i still don't understand what more / else you intend to implement, thus...
  • simply don't display a post quoting an listed author?
    • what if a post quotes several posts from different authors?

Quote:

Originally Posted by daperl (Post 1064828)
Some server-side functions that would need modifying:
  • Add, change or delete a post
  • Request a list of unread threads
  • Request a thread

when i see your last list, i can't help feeling i'm missing something here...
like i said, not clear to me what your feature will achieve, thus tricky to asses the impacts. which is a no-no in terms of development. no offence.

daperl 2011-08-05 20:52

Re: COmmunity rant thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1064840)
thus tricky to asses the impacts. which is a no-no in terms of development.

One of the most beautiful things about the web is that if you want to know the impact of a new feature, you've already collected the test data.

misterc 2011-08-05 20:55

Re: COmmunity rant thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1064823)
When it makes no sense as to why it's ongoing, yes. It is quite difficult to follow a discussion.

[...]

two things...
  • just because it doesn't make any sense to you doesn't mean it doesn't make sense, does it, now?
  • check the 1st post of this thread, and then.. .... ...

misterc 2011-08-05 20:59

Re: COmmunity rant thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daperl (Post 1064850)
One of the most beautiful things about the web is that if you want to know the impact of a new feature, you've already collected the test data.

so you are feeding the rambling (and trolling) web with rambling (and trolling?) features, are you? ;)

daperl 2011-08-05 21:16

Re: COmmunity rant thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1064855)
so you are feeding the rambling (and trolling) web with rambling (and trolling?) features, are you? ;)

Actually, if such a thing were implemented, the quality of forum web traffic could improve an order of magnitude, but that might be bad for you.


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