Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1061848)

I dunno. Me... I opted to stay over at the Android house and let the Windows keep the stink in the Nokia house. :) I just curiously watch to see if anybody will ever want to move back into that old place. Hope for the best, but expect the worst.

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 1061982)

But really i am getting sick of the shite that is being posted on here now as it all goes full circle.

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1061986)

Then do what's best... remove yourself from that vicious circle. I will.

Nothing tells the full truth like time. There's still at least a solid month before the N9 comes out. During that time, Nokia will continue to do what they think is best for them; regardless if we fans disagree, they're going down a path that is decidely without MeeGo (for now) and wholly behind Windows Phone 7.

Don't like what's being said around here? Then be the adult and remove yourself from that cycle.

I will be doing so. I'll remain curious, but will continue to research in other areas until the N9 is out and tested. Then and only then can I make an informed decision on that device.

Be adult, remain curious, pull back. That's my suggestion.

Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1062395)

Dan, Gerbick,

don't remember who of you two was always saying that TMO should go back to ITT;
seems to have happened now :confused:
any idea what happened?

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1062492)

This ain't ITT. ITT was friendlier, more conducive to conversation, arguments were handled as adult as possible... and the mods came down with either hammers or could steer the conversation quickly.

Well that and we were all pretty active on all fronts of the devices. Hell, even I had done an optimization guide for filesize.

Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1062395)

Dan, Gerbick,

don't remember who of you two was always saying that TMO should go back to ITT;
seems to have happened now :confused:
any idea what happened?

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1062520)

Also... what do you mean? What made you say that?

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1062520)

Also... what do you mean? What made you say that?

Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1063231)

is TMO in fact hosted @ ITT and TMO URL is simply badged over it?

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1063394)

I still go to internettablettalk.com first to see what's updated in the threads here. In fact, my bookmark is still internettablettalk.com/forums which directs me to talk.maemo.org - I'm definitely a creature of habit.

Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1063404)

and it's a different site, even though kept very tightly in sync

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 1063422)

Both domain names point to the same server.

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 1064572)

Actually my ignore list is growing by the way but it takes a lot for me to put someone on it just in case they could even be half sensible .

I really do feel the way forward is via the council of this community and as many have already said i will only repeat by saying again that they need to make contact with Nokia and see what the latest situation is regarding any hope of release for the Maemo code soo much wanted here.

As for my contribution i will make every effort to to post pics of a more suitable usb fix than anyone has ever posted before on here but that is not on topic with this thread.

The main reason i never got involved with testing cssu was the battery problem and untill bme is solved in a proper way it is pointless to install.

The other problem is the overwriting of important emmc structure making it near on impossible for the noob to re-flash.

I am not a linux coder and never will be now but i know these guys are working very hard indeed when they were active and i fully support in words any further progress on cssu in any way or form as long as it is a forward movement and not one that creates even more problems elsewhere on the os.

Sorry to be off topic a little please resume.

Originally Posted by mrsellout (Post 1064581)

Abill I'm replying to your post in the Council_Update thread here to avoid the continued derailing of that thread .


CSSU has provided fixes for a variety of issues. Not installing it until 'bme is solved' is like not fixing the leaking tap until you insulation in the loft; both need doing, but one is easier to fix than the other.

The bit about 'overwriting of important emmc structure' is complete claptrap. Stop typing and read up about what you are discussing. There is no issue whatsoever with reflashing a device once the CSSU has been applied.

So your FUD contradicts the next statement you made because you harm the CSSU effort when you spread ill-informed bs. The last line is also FUD..

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 1064467)

Trying to get people to pull together in this forum is somewhat of an impossible task thanks to trolls and people who just want the arguments.

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 1064625)

Your task for the day: think about that frequently.

As another poster said elsewhere, it does indeed take two to tango.

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 1064637)

You should try considering that maybe you're mistaken about all that, abill_uk.

Crazier things have happened.

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 1064644)

Moderation is all wrong on this forum because it still is one rule for them and another for us..

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 1064658)

That's an outright lie.

There is no them, only us. If you actually believe otherwise, then you should have reconsidered participation here long ago.

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 1064593)

yes ok you know it all so let us just leave it at that ok.

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 1064661)

I am sorry but i can not agree with you on this one texrat and as much as i respect you i still say there is one rule for the "friends" of moderators and another for outsiders of that "circle".

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 1064625)

Your task for the day: think about that frequently.

As another poster said elsewhere, it does indeed take two to tango.

Originally Posted by daperl (Post 1064680)

What we really need is more powerful forum software. I've glanced at the built-in vBulletin functionality and it doesn't have the right tools for members to properly separate themselves from the likes of an abill_uk. Maybe in the next few weeks I'll make a server-side software-change proposal that will end these kind of debates once and for all. Then a member could put abill_uk in their own virtual padded cell if he or she chooses to. The moderation could decrease by an order of magnitude, and this would be in Nokia's, the council's and the community's best interest.

So, ysss, stay where you are; abill_uk, be quiet until we get the software in place.

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 1064688)

What is talent like you doing on here? you should be in charge of a group of prisons !. :p

PS please tell that girl to do her roots will you as they look hiduous ;) she would look much more beautiful if she did.

Originally Posted by daperl (Post 1064680)

Maybe in the next few weeks I'll make a server-side software-change proposal that will end these kind of debates once and for all.... this would be in Nokia's, the council's and the community's best interest.

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 1064593)

yes ok you know it all so let us just leave it at that ok.

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 1064694)

@daperl: great! how do you plan to do that? don't forget 'leakage' via post quotings

Originally Posted by zoner (Post 1064701)

Be sure to throw up a donate button for that, I'd hit it!

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 1064694)

@daperl: great! how do you plan to do that? don't forget 'leakage' via post quotings