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the potential is still there, in full ;)
just tell me (us?) what you want to achieve?
i'll gladly help with testing scenarios, suggestions, tweaking, you name it :)

or do you just want to get ride of me?
and maybe abill as well, as a premium?
sorry, can't help you there :(
this place is tooooooo much fun not to stay, isn't it ? :D

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Spicy Tostitos, sorry. 2 flavors though.

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Maybe, but it seems that you more enjoy squandering it.

Everyone else seems to understand the requirements. Didn't you get the memo?

Oh don't worry, you'd be involved with the testing.

Much can be achieved client-side, but that's not the point.

I won't be leaving any time soon. All the more reason for better living through software.

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Your a REAL control freak you know that !.

Go for it because i could do with that too hahaha.

Finally get rid of asshats like ysss AND you !.

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Dude, you'd virtually be gone. Who would you be talking to?

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Not people like you and ysss thats for sure ;)

Bring it on i very very want this.

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HAHAHA that was funny to read :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

What these silly poeple do not realise is we do not want to even see the stupidity they talk about on here so to get rid of them full stop would be fantastic hip hip hahahaha.

Just think, all the trolls and all the arguments just dissapear now THAT is worth something on here to be able to have a conversation and not have to put up with the stagnant behaviour from the likes of ysss and daperl and a lot lot more.... ha ha ha.

Daperl i congratulate you for you to give me the software and means to get rid of you !!!!!. :D

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This is pretty surreal.

It's as if I'm watching some guy with a bomb strapped to his chest talking about achieving world peace through kindness and understanding, speaking in babytalk.

Do go on.
Mildly entertaining in a perverse way.

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not sure what you read, but, yeap, it had its funny moments too.

my thought exactly!
alas, except blocking a post if it contains a quote from someone on the viewer's ignore list, i have no idea what she wants to do.
what about quick replies?
what about my personal favourite (didn't use it often, but might get promoted >¦-) quote in quote?
a well, those web junkies... quick & dirty, right? and the industry has to come up with some solution to handle it :mad:

silliest part was maybe gerbick's remark about it all only being rank antagonizing. that's really all daperl was out after.

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apologises :o
even though i never saw it until a few minutes ago you were 200% on the mark!
the only thing daperl ever cared about was having the last post.
guess after 4 yrs you learned a thing or two, huh ;)

well, 'til that super plug-in comes out (:D) the common ignore list will have to do ¦-)

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yes for sure she and ysss the same so for me it is very exciting to be able to get rid of them alltogether.

The weirdist part about it and the bit that got me really excited was the fact that one of them 2 are giving us the very means to do so, WOW it thrills me even to type this hahahaha.

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But seriously talking it is now very clear why this community does not move forward and it is actually thanks to the likes of ysss and daperl with the way they treat people on here, the main reason i think many have got fed up and left.

We move one step forward then in come the sarcastic crew and push everything back a hundred steps.

Weird thing is though that no one with the authority seems to even see this on here.

I say get rid of the current council and get people in with the qualities much needed to push Maemo.org in the direction it really needs.

I did read though that apparently nobody would come forward to volunteer for the current council and as a result we end up with the dead end we have currently and it really is going nowhere.

If an analysis is done about all the bad posts on this forum, and the people who thank them as that is a dead give away, you will soon begin to realise just why the problems we have are not only here but getting a lot lot worse.

Everything good has now left for the few of us who are genuine in progress have to put up with the likes of ysss and daperl, people like daneel and all the flame war starters who post stupid pictures to get it all going, then the thanks come and before you know it you got .... chaos.

My poll thread will give you some examples of how they hijack and create mayhem and that got closed because of this by chemist.

Do a post search of these members and go right through them and you will see clearly what i am on about here.

Then do a search on who they have thanked and who have thanked them, a pattern will form very quickly and this is what needs to be stamped out on this forum, so yes i say get rid of the offenders and we might just have what we all really want.... progress !!!!.

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sometimes it feels like misterc is the alterego of abill_uk (the mpd kind, like edward norton for brad pitt in the movie - fight club)

:p

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Just because 2 people have similar views would come across as "Alter ego" and did you know your just as sarcastic as ysss and daperl? and that means you will be joining the list also as your another disruptive member that like to preach and think they are god !. :p

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sorry, fight club never made it into my collection...
anything i have seen (with Edward Norton) this may relate to?

• The Illusionist
• Kingdom of Heaven
• The Italian Job
• Red Dragon
• Death to Smoochy
• The Score
• Primal Fear

?

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OH i think you scared him off you bully :p

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i wonder, how long shall i (we) wonder :D ;)

not sure this is the only or even primary reason for ppl to leave the Maemo community...
Reggie hosts those forums on his own server(s) and uses two "badges" (talk.maemo.org and forums.internetablettalk.com) for it. i don't think serious developer bother about the forums that much; seems more like an appendix, an outhouse, maybe? >¦-)

dada's N950 is used as a primary phone...
what do you think we can do if even NOKIA tolerates that kind of hypocrisy? the whole "taking part in the MeeGo competition" was nothing else but a stunt to get a new phone :(

don't throw the baby out with the bathwater...
see 1st part; forums are not that important
i think the council does a lot more then shows on this threads.
everybody needs to come to the outhouse, but only when needed, right? but...
honestly, if you weren't looking for some future for your N900, would you come to those threads?

can't do :(
all the IDs you listed are on my ignore list (among others) :p
can't see their posts alas :D

relax, make use of the available features, they are more then enough to keep them @ bay.
was part of the exercise yesterday too, pointing out that all that fuss about new features was absolutely useless... tried to do it constructively but even so, i think i achieve my goal ¦-)

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yeah, some of them sound really bad, don't they ¦-)))))))))
how bad a bully i must be if i watch that kind of movies

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Well Nokia did the first part by closing down on Maemo as we all know but i honestly thought this community would step in where they failed but obviously not to be sadly :(
And i got this weird feeling that reggie will just shut the lot down one day after he realises nothing good is becoming of this :(.

I also think that when the commitee had no elected members that was a sign something was clearly wrong in that no new blood to take over the old and the reason it was important at that point to try and pull something out of nowhere for this community but what has happened is a slow degeneration and less interest so no i do not agree they have done even a little in the background because it would show on this community.

I think bringing MeeGo onto this site was a bad mistake as the "rivalry" started from the offset in the differences and betrayal of Maemo.

MeeGo was pushed to the limit onhere with 2 people in particular jumping into any thread they could and hijack it with the MeeGo project throwing people completely.
A perfect example is in the thread i started the poll for Maemo to be released to this community, it can still be read today as a prime example of thread hijacking.

"don't throw the baby out with the bathwater" i honestly think the water got threw out leaving the baby to cry because Nokia took good care of that situation ;):(

All in all i just get this feeling of emptiness because the N950 is loss situation for who's benifit?, yes everyone went mad to enter the dev comp to get one but it would serve much more of a purpose if it had Maemo upgraded and polished off as the new os for it.

I am at a loss now because what i see happenieng in the MeeGo dept is the ce project coming to an abrupt halt and MeeGo if any chance at all would be in the commercial sector certainly not oss.

All that is left really is the outcome of support for the N9 and that certainly does not look good even before it hits the market place.

Will this community take on that or will it carry on with the Maemo os? anyones guess if you ask me.

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• NOKIA vs community
  • the council
    it was already pointed out a few times, the members of the council are just guys like you & me; they most likely have a N900 or one of its predecessors, they have invested time mostly into improving one or several versions of OS200x and when the council was started, well, they stepped forward.
    they are not paid for their time, i don't think they have any advantage from it and, worst of all...
  • the community
    even if you take the forums out of the equation, leading an open source project is anything but a walk in the park :eek:
    like you pointed out, ppl come & go as they please, with nothing but their commitment to depend upon. i'm not saying they are (all) web junkies, most are serious, dedicated and hard working ppl who do this as a hobby, too, and have a great deal of satisfaction just by seeing it work & maybe getting an e-mail from a happy user every now and then :o
    still, considering the rather confused situation about
  • NOKIA's commitment
    even highly dedicated ppl may come to doubt.
    if on top of that they hit a snag (yes, like unable to access some critical closed source code...), they may well leave :(
    and the more qualified a dev is, the more likely s/he is to work on something around that, right?
    even though i came to that conclusion a few wks ago on the council thread, i wonder in how far NOKIA abandoned Maemo when they started with MeeGo :confused:
    they couldn't invest in the future of Maemo and MeeGo @ the same time, that would have been totally nuts (even though the final outcome, MeeGo/Harmattan isn't exactly clear cut in that respect, now, is it?)
    but even if they went MeeGo for future devices, it doesn't mean they don't support Maemo for legacy ones any more. obviously they have been paying the bills since, haven't they? and are committed to do so until next year...
• Maemo vs. MeeGo
  • N950
    it's a developer device, really not consumer grade by NOKIA's standard. that a developer desperate to get a new phone uses it as such none the less, well, that's the person's issue. set with an even more dead-end device then us with the N900, because even though NOKIA is not providing firmwares any more, it is still in its best interest, even for its wp future, to be a trustworthy actor that supports (even via via) its products for several years, no?
    the N950 is never going to get any kind of upgrade which soever. and once the N9 comes out, that will become the developer device and the N950 will be left as a unsupported piece of technological junk :D
  • N900 vs N9
    is the N9 the N900's successor? obviously not.
    will be a possible contender for the apple? maybe
    i have a couple news alert around all that & there seems to be a real buzz about the possibility. what will be, will be, right?
  • Maemo vs. MeeGo
    like i said before, one is the past, the other the future.
    they may still coexist in the present for some time, no?

you can see how nuts i am, hoping anyone is going to read all that ¦-)))))))))))))))
le'me know how far you got, okay ;)

EDIT: in a figure of speech, of course; we are both outcasts on TMO whereas the council members are cherished by the community.
i'm sure if either of us where to apply for the next council, there'd suddenly be dozen if not hundreds of candidates ¦-))))))))))))

EDIT': had a look @ the Development Environment Downloads and noticed that a new flasher for both N9 & N950 is available; looks like N950 users will be able to use the same firmwares as N9 customers

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nope.

another day, another imaginary enemy. Surreal indeed.

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nananana NOKIA nananana :eek:
and nananana MeeGo nanana. :o

I'm rite cause the colors are alrite ¦-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))

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abill,

don't bother posting to the trolls
that'll give us a perfect illustration of how they try to start a fight with insults & all we can submit to the moderators ¦-)

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Yes that was some post to read but i did read it over a few times and well......

For a community like this one it must have a goal or 2 and in the beggining it did have that much even with closed code not on offer BUT the members of such a community like this one have to be unified in the forward approach to the goals that are obvious Maemo bcause after all this community is indeed called Maemo.org.

Now look at the people we have as members ok......

They fight and they argue and they call eachother names and they post pictures of anything other than what should be intended like for instance a diagram of a fix to a usb port for example.

This community is pure mayhem and it kind of reminds me of a physciatric ward full of tangoed folk who have got no idea of life in general.

WHAT DO YOU EXPECT could possible come out of a situation like this?????.

It is moderated by people who actually love the arguments and have stated this fact several times on this community in one thread or a 100.

Now where i see it is IF you want real progress then the first thing you have to do is fill a forum of like minded people who actually HELP eachother NOT call eachother names and go on like some kind of physco as ysss does in his weird ways.

If you even consider what i have just typed and look from the outside in to this carnation of what can only be described as a mental hospital..... are you even suprised it ends up in the mess it is in right now?????.

Maemo is the target of progression here and the only talk should be only about Maemo.

Ok we have sub sections for near on every Nokia device going among the smartphone variety and a few others too and that is very acceptable.
So is the hardware aspect of all these devices to be talked about and problems of discussed in an orderly manner.

What is wrong is very simple and that is the moderators of this site actually ALLOW arguments outside of the intended meaning of Maemo.org.

If you want to troubleshoot any situation you start from the top and work your way downwards.

Reggie bless him has either been very ill advised or is just allowing his "staff" to not only fail in there duty but to antagonise the situation even further.

All and any bad posting should ALWAYS be wipred clean from any forum and that alone will tell people what is and should be and the way of conduct and progression.

I AM SURE half the members on here are on bloody crack because no way i can see this kind of utter chaotic behaviour from a balanced simple minded human being go on like they do on here, it is not allowed to even type one word out of place especially when your attacking another member, you must get it right and go the full hog and tear someone to pieces and then get others to follow suit, do you see my meaning here????.

For a community to work it must be friendly from one end to the other with only helpfull suggestions all round and you know IF this was the case we would not even need the team of moderators we have here complaining of working overtime and threatning members with all sorts, it would just be as it should be, progression and helpfull advice in all area's.

Please all you war mongers on here consider your actions and try at least to be fair to everyone, is that possible?.

This post is ONLY directed at the troubled area's and the war mongers of this community OK.

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I am not submitting anything to the mods as this is a rant thread and has a good purpose in that it keeps the trouble hopefully within this thread, a very much needed thread by the way !.

Please DO carry on your ******s.:D

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will DO ;)
your previous post was something too.
will get back to you once i got around to it :D

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Sadly to say my presence is wanted by a rather beautiful lady and i will be gone for the best part of a day but please do carry on in my absence :D

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enjoy the day! :)

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Rather daft to not notice that I didn't say who. I said "all I see".

Savvy?

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it takes two to tango, right?
i wanted to tango, all dada wanted was some sort of kung-fu.
as the saying goes, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me...
it was actually the 2nd time, but it definitely was the last

groovy

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Wait. What!?

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what what? :o

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That looks like the missing clue to n9seconds.com :eek::confused:
Could be just the koolaid kicking in though :mad::p

Just relax and all will be clear ¦-)))))))))))))))))))))))))

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There is not enough medication in the world.

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try walking with bare feet on the beach?
TX has a coast on the Gulf of Mexico, right?

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Are you running out of med's texy? :p

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He is reffering to this thread i am sure hahahahaha :p

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this thread is really ok
it is nothing to do with the rest of this crazy community as it is sometimes hahaha
MY thread ;) and yours of course as this is a place of pure sanity away from the madden crowd :D.

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I have just been informed that the N9 will be delivered between the 12th and 20th september and i will get confirmation of this and the price range for all models on friday this week so something is moving now for sure.

PS this information i am getting direct from Nokia not 3rd party.

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And i also have found out there are price differences throught the world for the device and this i do find strange !.