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abill_uk 2011-08-08 11:38

Re: COmmunity rant thread.
 
I will keep this information on this thread as i do not want to get involved with the "rat race" on here about it.

misterc 2011-08-08 12:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 1065976)
And i also have found out there are price differences throught the world for the device and this i do find strange !.

hi abill!

sorry, read your post (a couple times too), have some thoughts about it, doubts and all, but actually lost "the clarity"
Timoph was very helpful on the A significant day in community governance? thread and from other threads w/ N900 users asking for help, the community seems to be okay...
only, n000 tried to start a fight on the Community governance thread (big surprise...) and was nicely put back to his place by Timoph :D

think it is important to distinguish between the real community, ppl who develop or simply want to help and, well, the warmongers...

as always, it isn't fair to throw everybody in the same basket :eek:

different prices?
yes, of course; wealthier nations get a higher price, poorer countries a lower one.
doesn't only have to do w/ the "price"; it is also influenced by the salaries & fixed costs a business has to face in the different countries. that's usually referred to as "income parity" if you'd like to look into it...

abill_uk 2011-08-08 12:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1065995)
hi abill!

sorry, read your post (a couple times too), have some thoughts about it, doubts and all, but actually lost "the clarity"
Timoph was very helpful on the A significant day in community governance? thread and from other threads w/ N900 users asking for help, the community seems to be okay...
only, n000 tried to start a fight on the Community governance thread (big surprise...) and was nicely put back to his place by Timoph :D

think it is important to distinguish between the real community, ppl who develop or simply want to help and, well, the warmongers...

as always, it isn't fair to throw everybody in the same basket :eek:

different prices?
yes, of course; wealthier nations get a higher price, poorer countries a lower one.
doesn't only have to do w/ the "price"; it is also influenced by the salaries & fixed costs a business has to face in the different countries. that's usually referred to as "income parity" if you'd like to look into it...

Ok points noted and i respect what your saying, i am just a little bit to say the least peed off at the war mongers of this community and the biggest culprit is ysss for sure because i am tracking all his movements on here so intill he is either stopped or got rid of it will only continue.

Can you do me a favour and pm me your email? i want to share some information on this N9 news so you know all.

I will for sure get the prices for the 2 different models ie the 16gb and 64 gb on friday this week from Nokia direct and will post them on here.

abill_uk 2011-08-08 14:44

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I am now convinced this community is going to the dogs.

abill_uk 2011-08-08 19:09

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well we at least achieved something in that we got the counsil talking and what a suprise (not) that they give us some news that we already knew then put in a comment about all of a sudden they will talk to Nokia ..... i am now going to sit back and watch what happens on here but i say the same thing that the current council needs to kick into gear.

What i really want to say i will hold back... for now.

gerbick 2011-08-08 20:24

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Talking amongst yourself will not get anything done. Petitions, same.

That's just not how things get done.

misterc 2011-08-08 22:38

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what have you done for Maemo and / or MeeGo, today?

gerbick 2011-08-08 23:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1066268)
what have you done for Maemo and / or MeeGo, today?

I didn't ***** about anything. What have you done for Maemo/MeeGo today?

Fancy colorization of aforesaid logos does not count.

ysss 2011-08-09 02:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 1066177)
What i really want to say i will hold back... for now.

"I know what's best for this community. Everyone should listen to me."

"If the naysayers will just shut up, then I can be heard better. Then people will listen to me."

"You guys should be listening to me because I'm older than everyone here."

"Nokia is doomed unless they listen to me."

"Maemo is doomed unless they listen to me."

"MeeGo is doomed unless they listen to me."

"The Community is doomed.... unless they listen to me."

....

"I'm right.... right?"

abilll_uk 2011-08-09 03:07

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"I engineer USB ports."

misterc 2011-08-09 07:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1066294)
I didn't ***** about anything. What have you done for Maemo/MeeGo today?

Fancy colorization of aforesaid logos does not count.

installed MeeGo 1.2 DE, tried to get it set up so that i could install Cordia & maybe help debug it.
unable to connect either w/ 3G or w/ wi-fi, thus about to install NITDroid instead. (A significant day in community governance?)

Installing & uninstalling application on Nokia n900

abill_uk 2011-08-09 09:55

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If someone feels the urge to take the prevebial then they must be either very pissed off or very jelous.

I am not even looking or considering the implications because the mod's should take care of that, not bothered one way or the other to be honest but am i THAT famous someone has to impersonate me? or is it that i am unfamous hahaha.

All i can say is Reggie has got the wrong crew onboard and should consider ME as his police chief because i would have no problem whatsoever in taking this community inhand and dealing with the trolling, and as ysss said, for some only it is hard to define, for me it would just not exsist on this forum and is a matter of course total end of.

All the same i wish ysss was a good little girl and was more polite towards me;) i might even take her off my ignore list :p.

I have noticed however that more subects are indeed getting down to earth and to the point, a BIG improvement in some area's.

For those who even take me serious when i am "trolling" then my heart goes out to you all :p.

I have my serious side and that is not to be messed with by anyone, being boss most of my life i do not take too kindly to people ordering me about especially on here ;).

ysss 2011-08-09 10:38

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@abill: here's some food for thought.

"Abill, there are probably enough data points to objectively measure that you are the most 'hated' person on this forum and that you've started the most trollfests on TMO's history to this date."

Now answer me this: is the above statement just me trolling or not? Because it is factually correct; BUT I'm sure you would be annoyed/hurt as well. I'm just stating facts, but to YOU I would be trolling. Heck, to you everything seems to be trolling except if it's posted by misterc.

If you want to disprove my previous claim (of how hard it is to objectively and systematically identify/define trolling), then do so. Don't just vent out hot nonsensical airs.

On that note, PLEASE LEAVE ME IN YOUR IGNORE LIST AND STOP READING MY FICKING POSTS? ;)

abill_uk 2011-08-09 10:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 1066495)
@abill: here's some food for thought.

"Abill, there are probably enough data points to objectively measure that you are the most 'hated' person on this forum and that you've started the most trollfests on TMO's history to this date."

Now answer me this: is the above statement just me trolling or not? Because it is factually correct; BUT I'm sure you would be annoyed/hurt as well. I'm just stating facts, but to YOU I would be trolling. Heck, to you everything seems to be trolling except if it's posted by misterc.

If you want to disprove my previous claim (of how hard it is to objectively and systematically identify/define trolling), then do so. Don't just vent out hot nonsensical airs.

On that note, PLEASE LEAVE ME IN YOUR IGNORE LIST AND STOP READING MY FICKING POSTS? ;)

I do not agree with the attacking that goes on here and as for being the most "hated" on here then GOOD because no one would mess with this forum if I was in charge of the problem troubleshooting that is for sure !.

misterc like anyone else is entitled to express but he does not attack people like some do on here and neither do i !, think about that ok.

Go through my posts and threads and you will see i used to attack back but never start the attacking !.

Moderators should never allow even for fun posts that attack or bad trolling, they DO on here just for fun and that is what makes them incapable of differentiating.

abill_uk 2011-08-09 11:03

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I see one of them did get rid of that thread impersonating me so they do do there job properly sometimes.

ysss 2011-08-09 11:32

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Be thankful that the mods here are not trigger happy power monger and they value the freedom of speech, else I really doubt that you (and I) would be around.

As for your claim that you never 'start the attacking'... here's a reminder:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...386#post981386

That whole referenced thread was shutdown because you THOUGHT people were attacking you and you started slinging shits at them, even though they were not even talking to you in the first place.

abill_uk 2011-08-09 11:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 1066527)
Be thankful that the mods here are not trigger happy power monger and they value the freedom of speech, else I really doubt that you (and I) would be around.

As for your claim that you never 'start the attacking'... here's a reminder:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...386#post981386

That whole referenced thread was shutdown because you THOUGHT people were attacking you and you started slinging shits at them, even though they were not even talking to you in the first place.

Understand one thing here and you will understand me ok..... ATTACKING of ANY nature should be stamped out in ANY event and because there is so much underhand attacking going on here, sometimes is is very hard to distinguish just who the attacks are aimed at.

A gentleman's community like the old days i remember there was NEVER a single word out of place even if you disagreed with someone, you always were aware of conduct and especially offending anyone.

This has slowly vanished with time i am sad to say but there is nothing wrong with bringing the old ways back simply by not allowing ANY bad behaviour on a forum such as this.

For god's sake this community is FULL of people who devote endless time and energy burning the midnight oil to develop, WHY do people even feel they have the right to attack slander or call a single person a bad name is beyond me.

If one does it they all feel they can do it even you !.

abill_uk 2011-08-09 11:56

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it should go something like this..... " i am terribly sorry but i do not agree with you because ......." and on it goes in a gentlemany way.

abill_uk 2011-08-09 11:57

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I am just as guilty of it sometimes because i am only human, if it did not exsist in the first place it would never be thought of to attack someone.

Think about that please ok.

ysss 2011-08-09 12:06

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I am terribly sorry, but I have no idea of how you guys used to hold group-talk over telegraphs back in the days :D

Seriously though, retaliation is not a good excuse to go apeshit in a forum. Especially when you're retaliating against imaginary enemies and when you misunderstood people and acting of that mistaken assumptions (as the thread referenced above was a clear example of).

abill_uk 2011-08-09 12:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 1066549)
I am terribly sorry, but I have no idea of how you guys used to hold group-talk over telegraphs back in the days :D

Seriously though, retaliation is not a good excuse to go apeshit in a forum. Especially when you're retaliating against imaginary enemies and when you misunderstood people and acting of that mistaken assumptions (as the thread referenced above was a clear example of).

Oh i say old chap i am terribly sorry what what and yes i remember the old days very well :p.

Do you remember the old style "bullitin boards" that people use to download from and use tape streamers to store data? on my god that brings back memories haha.

Retaliation is what leads to world wars :mad: but this is the world we live in unfortunateleeeeee.

ysss 2011-08-09 12:36

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Blimey, old lad! those were the memories indeed :p

Seriously though, how bout we tone down the testosterones for the sake of this community eh? At the very least ask for clarification from the poster before reaching the boiling point and just reporting the post instead of going on public rampage?


I'll do my part as well. *offers to shake hand*

abill_uk 2011-08-09 12:42

Re: COmmunity rant thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 1066561)
Blimey, old lad! those were the memories indeed :p

Seriously though, how bout we tone down the testosterones for the sake of this community eh? At the very least ask for clarification from the poster before reaching the boiling point and just reporting the post instead of going on public rampage?


I'll do my part as well. *offers to shake hand*

OK its a deal,consider it my pleasure ;).

I will scratch your back if you scratch mine ;).

abill_uk 2011-08-09 13:10

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All's quiet on the western front oooer eeeeerie ;).

geneven 2011-08-09 15:02

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I'm glad that the banning I and others had been advocating finally happened in this case, and that the crazy idea that the banned one should maintain a Wiki for the community did NOT happen.

ysss 2011-08-09 17:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 1066573)
All's quiet on the western front oooer eeeeerie ;).

dude, are you psychic...? dude...?

daperl 2011-08-09 18:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 1066706)
dude, are you psychic...? dude...?

Dude, I can't stop laughing. Too funny.

epitaph 2011-08-09 19:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by daperl (Post 1066738)
Dude, I can't stop laughing. Too funny.


He isn't more or less psychic then you.

daperl 2011-08-09 21:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by epitaph (Post 1066781)
He isn't more or less psychic then you.

I think you're on to something. I was just sitting here thinking, "What would it be like if abill_uk just spontaneously combusted?" And poof!

epitaph 2011-08-09 21:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by daperl (Post 1066850)
I think you're on to something. I was just sitting here thinking, "What would it be like if abill_uk just spontaneously combusted?" And poof!

What is combusted?

daperl 2011-08-09 22:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by epitaph (Post 1066860)
What is combusted?

Consumed by fire. I was referring to this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontan...ion#In_fiction

ysss 2011-08-10 01:02

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What a shame... we just struck a deal ;(

geneven 2011-08-10 01:23

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The deal was either with Dr.Jeckyl or Mr. Hyde, and could not last.

gerbick 2011-08-10 01:31

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Well... damn. He did listen to me when I asked him to kindly pull back a bit.

What was this offense?

daperl 2011-08-10 01:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 1066951)
The deal was either with Dr.Jeckyl or Mr. Hyde, and could not last.

Damn, I am psychic! I was about to write the same thing. Time to pick me some lottery numbers.

ysss 2011-08-10 01:59

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lol

@daperl: how's the PrivacyFilter project going?

daperl 2011-08-10 04:26

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@daperl: how's the PrivacyFilter project going?

Dude, it's finished! Check out the result of my beta test:

Attachment 22008

Texrat 2011-08-10 04:42

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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1066954)
Well... damn. He did listen to me when I asked him to kindly pull back a bit.

What was this offense?

I'm not privy to the banning rationale, but I assume an accumulation of offenses combined with delayed admin action.

ysss 2011-08-10 05:41

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Originally Posted by daperl (Post 1067009)
Dude, it's finished! Check out the result of my beta test:

Attachment 22008

lol! my stomach hurts..

IcyMoustache 2011-08-10 08:42

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Originally Posted by ysss (Post 1066970)
lol

@daperl: how's the PrivacyFilter project going?

privacyfilter project, hehe, love you for the name :p

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