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Alfred 2011-07-27 18:17
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately
 
I am too lazy to read the whole thread, but i am quite sure, what it contains.
so, anywhore, i was thinking that TMO could've have a wall, where all users could post their posts, instead of creating a THREAD. Get it?
smb asks:
Quote:
Sorry, i am too dumb to understand how to install Nitdroid, can smbd help me?
And he gets then a link from somebody, gets the answer. And this way we won't have that many threads, with a few posts in them, containing links and stuff. OFCUZ, the wall will be always trolled and full of stupid question, but the right column would be much more cleaner. IS IT POSSIBLE TO DO?

JamesBond@ge 2011-07-27 18:27
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately
 
It is possible to do.

Anywhore, I think you are a very nice man Alf and I can't wait to see this plan of yours put into action.

Alfred 2011-07-27 18:36
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesBond@ge (Post 1059450)
It is possible to do.

Anywhore, I think you are a very nice man Alf and I can't wait to see this plan of yours put into action.
RWJ rocks=)
Anyprostitute, this can only be done with the root power
Code:
sudo gainroot
dpkg - i /home/admin/TMO/wall_1.0.0.deb

JamesBond@ge 2011-07-27 18:51
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately
 
Anyfud!

Downloading the .deb now. OFCUZ, can't wait for these improvements!

Alf, you are a lovely man. Lets hope this thread inspires more PLUR in people.

xopher 2011-07-27 19:57
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately
 
BELCH!

(Couldn't resist, thread title compelled me)

jedi 2011-07-27 21:55
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 1059364)
(snip) .... and she comes on here complaining people telling the truth.(snip)
Hey vi_, you've been keeping your femininity very well hidden here... and how does abill know your secret?

Hang on - is there something going on between you two? Do we have a TMO romance here?

:)

vi_ 2011-07-27 22:05
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by theonelaw (Post 1059416)
...Given the ~50k population here, of which statistically speaking,
(according to the most conservative estimates) around 1%
of the members here are devout sociopaths (yielding about 500 cranks and otherwise rude and obnoxious people who give not one whit about what other people care about)...
500 sociopaths? Im at least 3 of them.

kingoddball 2011-07-27 22:30
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately
 
Vi_: You should forkbomb all the haters!

:(){ :|:& };:

Bring back the old signature!

(Thread title changed to represent your EPIC idea!)

@anthonie: You hit the nail on the head! I did not want to go through all the silly threads in 'Alternatives' and post links to show this. But the vast majority are just rubbish that can be sorted by looking at the first page or by google! :eek:

pantera1989 2011-07-27 22:42
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1058960)
I felt this same exact way when the N900 was released and I didn't make the jump.

The folks that came in, knew nothing about ITT, hated us old-timers that kept our N810's, the folks that resisted jumping to Qt were shunned for our GTK+ ways (like Druids, but hated moreso) and the negativity was immense.

Out comes the N9. New names, same ignorance, new device, same hatred to the prior group that existed here before them... same old story.
I'm all for change. Smoku had cleared some doubts regarding Meego and now it seems quite promising. I don't mind talk about Meego here. Keeps me informed and I don't have to visit Meego.com as much.

However I refuse to buy the N9 for the following reasons:

1. It looks abandoned even before it is released.
2. It's not really Meego so if Nokia abandons it you could be stuck without updates.
3. It's a Nokia.

If Elop had to leave and someone pro Meego had to be the new CEO and release further devices I would consider. But right now it's too risky to buy. I will happily wait for Meego devices from other manufacturers who embrace the platform if Meego is successful after all.

I enjoy using Maemo. I love my N900. I wish it had more RAM.

geneven 2011-07-27 22:52
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfred (Post 1059442)
I am too lazy to read the whole thread, but i am quite sure, what it contains.
so, anywhore, i was thinking that TMO could've have a wall, where all users could post their posts, instead of creating a THREAD. Get it?
smb asks:
And he gets then a link from somebody, gets the answer. And this way we won't have that many threads, with a few posts in them, containing links and stuff. OFCUZ, the wall will be always trolled and full of stupid question, but the right column would be much more cleaner. IS IT POSSIBLE TO DO?
I proposed something like this here, to be called a Free Fire zone, a thread where no one was expected to have searched, and all questions and answers would be deleted every few days. Of course, anything posted of lasting significance could be transferred elsewhere.

Of course it could be done but no one was interested.

kingoddball 2011-07-27 23:24
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately - AKA - EPIC rant thread!
 
That is a great idea (Free Fire Zone). Maybe limit new users (sub 5 posts) to using this FFZ?

Have someone monitor and dumb the solved threads, as you said, every few days!
It would be great!
All of these sub forums can be cleaned up and fixed back to the Nerd Haven.

Temporal 2011-07-27 23:28
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by geneven (Post 1059606)
I proposed something like this here, to be called a Free Fire zone, a thread where no one was expected to have searched, and all questions and answers would be deleted every few days. Of course, anything posted of lasting significance could be transferred elsewhere.

Of course it could be done but no one was interested.
No no no, please, don't do that, sometimes valuable info may get lost and only I know how much info I got from what other people may have thought were pointless threads.
Please, don't do that.

demolition 2011-07-28 00:31
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately - AKA - EPIC rant thread!
 
What!? We're talking about something useful!? This is a rant thread!

Regarding the rant, my position remains the same: we all need to ask for help but there are ways and ways of saying things.

Regarding the FreeFire, really good idea. I have the same concerns as Temporal - how would useful stuff be saved? Pasting stuff to the wiki is slow hence expensive. And one person's junk is another's gold. I suppose condensing an hour's or day's worth of FreeFire posts/threads so it looks something like the bug report might be a plan? It would still exist but archived and tidy.

Uh oh, we might get something useful out of this rant!

anthonie 2011-07-28 07:22
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately - AKA - EPIC rant thread!
 
I am in doubt, at the moment, whether we are lucky or unlucky the N900 can not shoot bullets, at least not in it's default configuration.

2 people. 2 phones. 2 /usr/ directories removed, all within 5 new threads.

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75289
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75294

vi_ 2011-07-28 07:28
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately - AKA - EPIC rant thread!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonie (Post 1059752)
I am in doubt, at the moment, whether we are lucky or unlucky the N900 can not shoot bullets, at least not in it's default configuration.

2 people. 2 phones. 2 /usr/ directories removed, all within 5 new threads.

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75289
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75294
lollingtons!

abill_uk 2011-07-28 07:46
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately - AKA - EPIC rant thread!
 
HAHA this thread is quite amuzing now:D

theonelaw 2011-07-28 10:44
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately - AKA - EPIC rant thread!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonie (Post 1059752)
I am in doubt, at the moment, whether we are lucky or unlucky the N900 can not shoot bullets, at least not in it's default configuration.

2 people. 2 phones. 2 /usr/ directories removed, all within 5 new threads.

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75289
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75294
yup.

not quite the same as installing Bumblebee and letting someone else do it for you.:)

just glanced at the number of people online when I signed on
and noticed TMO still has a lot of interest (1000+).

...wonder if we could derive a stat on what percentage (daily)
people brick their phones (via deleting system files etc),
and whether the difference is statistically meaningful
between the daily 'brickage' rate for N900, Android and Wp stuff...

tuxsavvy 2011-07-28 10:56
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately - AKA - EPIC rant thread!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonie (Post 1059752)
I am in doubt, at the moment, whether we are lucky or unlucky the N900 can not shoot bullets, at least not in it's default configuration.

2 people. 2 phones. 2 /usr/ directories removed, all within 5 new threads.

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75289
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75294
I feel sorry for the two bricked N900. If they were second hand N900 I'd feel even more sorry for their current owner is even less clueless than their previous owners.

jedi 2011-07-28 10:59
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately - AKA - EPIC rant thread!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tuxsavvy (Post 1059888)
I feel sorry for the two bricked N900. If they were second hand N900 I'd feel even more sorry for their current owner is even less clueless than their previous owners.
They're not 'bricked' at all.

They just had some essential files removed, which are easy to replace with a re-flash.

Exactly the same happens when you delete your c:\windows directory - you just need to reinstall windows - it won't turn your PC into a "brick"

demolition 2011-07-28 11:05
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately - AKA - EPIC rant thread!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by theonelaw (Post 1059878)

...wonder if we could derive a stat on what percentage (daily)
people brick their phones (via deleting system files etc),
and whether the difference is statistically meaningful
between the daily 'brickage' rate for N900, Android and Wp stuff...
I'm sure it's b/c school's out as well - people with a sudden increase in time on their hands. "Is there any codec .DAT file"
Unfortunately, this increase in crassness is about to be compounded by what appears to be an imminent release of a new version of an-/nit-droid. Let the fun commence!

tuxsavvy 2011-07-28 11:10
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately - AKA - EPIC rant thread!
 
Well semi-bricked, it still makes the device unusable until one flashes. When one has to flash I'm sure all the usuals apply:
- They lose their current setup, which includes any customisations apart from deleting stuff inside /usr
- They may shorten the life of the N900 because OneNAND will have to be rewritten yet again.

ericsson 2011-07-28 11:13
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately - AKA - EPIC rant thread!
 
I can't wait until September when the N9 will be released everywhere except UK, US, Canada, Germany, France, Netherlands and Spain :D

We will all be discussing our wonderful, brand new and shiny N9 and the Brits and the Yanks will be left out in the cold. Those will be the days of milk and honey :D

juise- 2011-07-28 11:19
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1058993)
Angry people. They exist. Not sure why yet though.
Someone should make that game.

(I know, I'm a bit late with this)

don_falcone 2011-07-28 12:21
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately - AKA - EPIC rant thread!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 1059902)
I can't wait until September when the N9 will be released everywhere except UK, US, Canada, Germany, France, Netherlands and Spain :D

We will all be discussing our wonderful, brand new and shiny N9 and the Brits and the Yanks will be left out in the cold. Those will be the days of milk and honey :D
Har har. :rolleyes: You can import almost anything, that's how i got most of my wonderful mechanical ASCII keybards from the US to Germany, and my QWERTY N900 from Belgium.

daperl 2011-07-28 13:53
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately - AKA - EPIC rant thread!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 1059902)
I can't wait until September when the N9 will be released everywhere except UK, US, Canada, Germany, France, Netherlands and Spain :D

We will all be discussing our wonderful, brand new and shiny N9 and the Brits and the Yanks will be left out in the cold. Those will be the days of milk and honey :D
Where do you live?

ericsson 2011-07-28 15:08
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately - AKA - EPIC rant thread!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by don_falcone (Post 1059961)
Har har. :rolleyes: You can import almost anything, that's how i got most of my wonderful mechanical ASCII keybards from the US to Germany, and my QWERTY N900 from Belgium.
I know. UK, France, Germany should be no problem getting a N9 from any online shop (or "off-line" for that matter) . The US on the other hand :D

IcyMoustache 2011-07-28 15:16
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately - AKA - EPIC rant thread!
 
the americans deserve the WP7 - simple, closed, and some place where they can spend more money (:p)

Sportsguy 2011-07-28 15:20
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately - AKA - EPIC rant thread!
 
By the way Ingnorent is spelled ignorant. Us new n900 users know how to use spellcheck.

gerbick 2011-07-28 15:22
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately - AKA - EPIC rant thread!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by IcyMoustache (Post 1060071)
the americans deserve the WP7 - simple, closed, and some place where they can spend more money
Been waiting on somebody to say something like this.

jnack95 2011-07-28 15:30
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately - AKA - EPIC rant thread!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kingoddball (Post 1058934)

But I have noticed a massive influx in POINTLESS threads and seemingly "dumb(!!)" people with pointless comments!
You knew this and then you created this thread?

daperl 2011-07-28 15:51
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately - AKA - EPIC rant thread!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 1060067)
I know. UK, France, Germany should be no problem getting a N9 from any online shop (or "off-line" for that matter) . The US on the other hand :D
If you're gonna be a smuggy douche bag, you better come in with something more than location. Here's a better way to go out on a limb while being obnoxiously smug:

In December of 2009, direct from Nokia (they're in Finland), a brand-new, unlocked n900 arrived at my door in San Diego, California (that's in the U.S.) for $359 US.

In July of 2011, direct from Nokia (they're in Finland), a brand-new, unlocked n950 arrived at my door in San Diego, California (that's in the U.S.) for $0 US.

Both these transactions were made possible by Quim Gil, a Nokia employee who now resides in Northern California (that's in the U.S.).

I'm guessing that a similar opportunity for an n9 will be made available to me, even if I live in San Diego, California (that's in the U.S.). If so, extrapolating from previous data, a brand-new, unlocked n9 should also run me, to my door, somewhere near $359 US.

So, for three brand-new, unlocked premium devices, that would be a grand total of:

$718 US

That would the real milk and honey.

Alfred 2011-07-28 19:30
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately - AKA - EPIC rant thread!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by daperl (Post 1060103)
If you're gonna be a smuggy douche bag, you better come in with something more than location. Here's a better way to go out on a limb while being obnoxiously smug:

In December of 2009, direct from Nokia (they're in Finland), a brand-new, unlocked n900 arrived at my door in San Diego, California (that's in the U.S.) for $359 US.

In July of 2011, direct from Nokia (they're in Finland), a brand-new, unlocked n950 arrived at my door in San Diego, California (that's in the U.S.) for $0 US.

Both these transactions were made possible by Quim Gil, a Nokia employee who now resides in Northern California (that's in the U.S.).

I'm guessing that a similar opportunity for an n9 will be made available to me, even if I live in San Diego, California (that's in the U.S.). If so, extrapolating from previous data, a brand-new, unlocked n9 should also run me, to my door, somewhere near $359 US.

So, for three brand-new, unlocked premium devices, that would be a grand total of:

$718 US

That would the real milk and honey.
Why would you buy n9 if you already have the 2nd best device n950?

geneven 2011-07-28 20:20
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately - AKA - EPIC rant thread!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by daperl (Post 1060103)

Both these transactions were made possible by Quim Gil, a Nokia employee who now resides in Northern California (that's in the U.S.).

I'm guessing that a similar opportunity for an n9 will be made available to me, even if I live in San Diego, California (that's in the U.S.). If so, extrapolating from previous data, a brand-new, unlocked n9 should also run me, to my door, somewhere near $359 US.

So, for three brand-new, unlocked premium devices, that would be a grand total of:

$718 US

That would the real milk and honey.
If someone commented smugly that Toyotas were expensive, and I responded that my friend at Toyota got me a free one, would that show that Toyotas aren't expensive? I don't see that your anecdote indicates anything about Nokia's general practice.

I swear, developers often seem convinced that finding an exception disproves a rule.

daperl 2011-07-28 21:07
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately - AKA - EPIC rant thread!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by geneven (Post 1060243)
If someone commented smugly that Toyotas were expensive, and I responded that my friend at Toyota got me a free one, would that show that Toyotas aren't expensive? I don't see that your anecdote indicates anything about Nokia's general practice.

I swear, developers often seem convinced that finding an exception disproves a rule.
Sorry, but you missed the point completely. And besides, if you were actually following, an exception was already offered when someone else responded that he would be able to get the product just because he was in Europe, developer or not. So...

smegheadz 2011-07-29 18:07
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately - AKA - EPIC rant thread!
 
I have to agree with daperl on this.

I live in ireland. the N900 was not available in ireland except through vodafone online order with a huge *** contract (only available a few months after release), or i could use expansys and pay over €650 for it and was even quoted over €750 from 1 place and could be waiting a month for it. i paid just over €550 including P&P and had it within 10 days. i know some n900 users bought there's from the usa and some got theirs from eastern europe. fact is you can get a phone if you want it, EVEN if it's not being sold in your country. and warrenty is still intact.

abill_uk 2011-07-29 18:30
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately - AKA - EPIC rant thread!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by daperl (Post 1060103)
If you're gonna be a smuggy douche bag, you better come in with something more than location. Here's a better way to go out on a limb while being obnoxiously smug:

In December of 2009, direct from Nokia (they're in Finland), a brand-new, unlocked n900 arrived at my door in San Diego, California (that's in the U.S.) for $359 US.

In July of 2011, direct from Nokia (they're in Finland), a brand-new, unlocked n950 arrived at my door in San Diego, California (that's in the U.S.) for $0 US.

Both these transactions were made possible by Quim Gil, a Nokia employee who now resides in Northern California (that's in the U.S.).

I'm guessing that a similar opportunity for an n9 will be made available to me, even if I live in San Diego, California (that's in the U.S.). If so, extrapolating from previous data, a brand-new, unlocked n9 should also run me, to my door, somewhere near $359 US.

So, for three brand-new, unlocked premium devices, that would be a grand total of:

$718 US

That would the real milk and honey.
Oh My God i love ME who do you love :p

BigBadGuber! 2011-07-29 18:59
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately - AKA - EPIC rant thread!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 1060067)
I know. UK, France, Germany should be no problem getting a N9 from any online shop (or "off-line" for that matter) . The US on the other hand :D
We can easily get it here in the US. There are many tech shops online that will stock it. But you will have to look for it

Rauha 2011-07-29 19:00
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately - AKA - EPIC rant thread!
 
I think that lots of new poeple will come here after N9 is released. Simply because there are so few sites left that are in any way Nokia related.

There is only Allaboutsymbian, TMO and few fanboi hobbysites. And those fanboi hobbysites are dying quickly.

Alfred 2011-07-29 19:13
Re: Increase in rude and/or ignorent people lately - AKA - EPIC rant thread!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rauha (Post 1060737)
I think that lots of new poeple will come here after N9 is released. Simply because there are so few sites left that are in any way Nokia related.

There is only Allaboutsymbian, TMO and few fanboi hobbysites. And those fanboi hobbysites are dying quickly.
There is a quite good russian website meegos.ru


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