some1 sell me n950.... im deadly serious o.O
 

name the price in PM... will try to match it... this aint a joke... just a request by N tablet series fan...

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Read this and you'll understand why no one can sell an n950 to you and if they do, why you do not want to buy it.

http://qt.nokia.com/files/pdf/pla-n950.pdf/

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basicly it says.... that if some1 fuc.s it up... needts to pay nokia 500€... hell... will give that + bonus =P


rules are ment to be broken.... or bent... after all... isnt that what maemo is all about? =)

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First of all.. who would wanna sell a N950.. imo he would be the biggest Clown on this earth.. a 12mp camera..Meego.. what more?

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I think you're missing a point or two here:

1. This device is handed out on a loan basis for developers that have proven themselves productive (unlike me ;)).

Breaking the rules, even if you get compensated for the penalty from Nokia, basically renders your relation with Nokia useless. If not at once, you won't be able to repeat that kind of trick very often. Ruining your relation with Nokia for a mere 500 + euro's, would you consider that good advice? Would you do that yourself?

2. Considering the very limited supply of N950's, have you heard anything close to a hint from an owner not being happy with it and wanting to get rid of it?

3. Yes, rules are meant to be broken. I just did it myself, as a matter of fact and rewrote the rm function on the terminal, such that if you execute $root -> rm -fr /usr/bin, it effectively creates an ISO image of your maemo install that serves as a restore point. Try it!

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dude NO LOL!! hahah

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I am offering $5,000 for N950. Who is willing to part with it?

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BBG

For that amount of money I could probably build you a custom phone. PM me for bank details and such :)

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give me 10.000.000€ (prepayment) - i know where I could "get" one :D

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the thing is...that i didnt got one for free.. and i want it hard as hell! so what other optins do i have, except to ask here like this =P


can blame man 4 tryin =P

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Oh well perhaps I can sell you this n950 I bought from china.

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there was a guy on ebay with N950s available for preorder. reckoned he had loads. don't have the link, but sure an ebay search will come up with something.

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yeah right, and payment options are wire transfer and cash by mail?

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give me the freaking $5000 I'll make a phone for you better than n950. I could at least double some specs and implement some not implemented features.

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just about, the preorder date was later than the payplan protection deadline.

might be real, would take someone rich and daft to find out.....

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ORLY? and it will run Harmattan (or I'd even prefer Fremantle) and have reasonable battery life? I will. Seriously.

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Thank you for recognizing that.

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Seriously it's do-able.

1) A 4.5" multitouch capacitive display, buy for $250 or less from a Motorola Droid Bionic (qHD SLCD pentile) or SGSII (WVGA SAMOLED+ rgb).

2) A decent SoC with 1GB RAM. Probably TI OMAP 4430 since the unix drivers are available free, its got a powerful gpu and good dsp/units.
Buy for $150 or less from a device (RIM PlayBook, LG phone).

3) Borrow the rest of the parts (sim slot, microSD, miniHDMI, battery etc etc) ready from a small phone, or buy the necessary parts individually: $350.

4) Get a plastics expert to made blueprints for bard to implement the screen into a thin profile tilt design (from N97).
Have custom made front navigation buttons (Back, Home, Menu).
Have a custom made 5row qwerty keypad (or gamepad if u desire).
Have the processor and all the parts fit into the bottom portion.
$1,000+ or less if you bring in your expertise.

5) Load Android AOSP and make a hybrid port from several sources (devices like Droid3, LG Optimus Prime, etc etc).
Push in the drivers. Now you have a developers phone with beta software.
$1,000 for software expert, or less with open source effort.

6) Polish the software if possible.
There you have it, an awesome phone with great attributes for <$3,000

7) Find the source of the products (ie buy in bulk of 1,000), now each device costs ~$1,000 instead of $2,500.
Sell devices with minimal profit, and hope for development.
Get native ubuntu ported (MeeGo is trash at the moment).

8) Win the large lottery, and strike a small deal with the manufacturers. The quality will shoot to Samsung/HTC level and each handset will cost $500 to manufacture, where HTC makes at half that price.
The software (OS 2.3.5) will be 98% polished.
Sell phone unlocked and outright (as developer device to protect from infringements) for $800 and it will sell like hotcakes.

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Yeah... And oh someone got in to it already. Named Smoku

http://cordiahd.org/

Just go here http://cordiatab.com/misc/preorder and order 15 units to him(costs less than $5000) and I'm sure he will appreciate it. ;)

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I don't want to be rude, but with $5000 you might get the designing part done in real life (e: kangal's point number 4) if you are really lucky, manufacturing, assembly etc will also cost something...

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this is one dumb thread on this maemo earth .evade asap !

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will N950 will be officially sold ever ?????

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no

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Seriously thought, instead of supporting Nokia (do You really think they deserve that now?...) by whining about N950/N9/whatever, just go and register for CordiaTAB. I'm 100% sure that it will be better than any Nokia product in years, and for 100% support is gonna be much longer... ;)

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And I am sure cordiatab will turn out as good as meego+cordia on n900 & psx4m.

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Silly thread indeed. You sound like a brainwashed Apple fanboy type Nokian. I for one will not be buying a nokia phone after n900, just keep n900 for as long as i can. I never ever bothered developing otherwise sole reason to buy it was to start developing on nokia ovi platform. Scandinavian style of business, i dont know but i wont be putting my efforts towards Nokia. They have betrayed their engineers, who put in tremendous amount of work towards Maemo/Harmattan and disappointed longgg time customers like me. A half baked Maemo still is miles ahead of competition in many ways. They never gave it completion or tried to make it better. It was this community that has though, which nokia should be indebted indeed. If anything, people should show they are in control rather than 10 execs at the top.

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How many instances of the same question should we go through each week? No it won't.

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Y'know, I'm actually wondering: Would it be possible to take the specs you want(I'm assuming something like 4", 1024x600 TFT, Tegra2 proc, etc) to some Chinese vendor, and ask them to build you something? I'd bet someone could get you what you wanted for less than $5k. Easily. I mean, they already have any physical format you want; they can steal it from any phone on the market. Same with components; the only real new part would be a new inside board and potentially a couple holes for ports. Then, you could probably get some OSS dev to port Ubuntu/Meego to it(using the Meego graphics drivers, Hildon for a desktop) if you gave the guy a device.
It might not be quite the same, but I bet it'd be better. If I had a few grand handy, I'd be thinking along the same lines... and if you found others, I'm betting you could get the price down quickly.

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less than $5k per device if your batch is big enough. but for a single unit....

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Cordia is tablet, it is too big as a phone.

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According to the cordiatab website, it has SIM card slot. Sure it may still be too big to act as a phone but its not like as if one would be walking around holding cordiatab or <insert_any_tablets_with_phone_functionality> up to their ears, would they? :)

Also cordia is a project, not specifically a device

(edit) Getting back to the thread topic, I'm sure there's plenty of us who would want N950, there's even a few threads discussing about N950.

The bottom line is (and I'm sure at least one other person has covered this area as well) is that Nokia N950 is not for sale to the general public even if their respective happy owners do own such a device.

There were a fair few ways one could have possibly obtained N950 but many of the ways of one obtaining the said device needs to prove that the owners can tolerate the device being faulty and will cause issues wherever it likes, etc, etc, etc. As much as I hate to say this (because I don't own a N950 myself even though I'd love to) is that Nokia chose to hand N950 on the basis of trying to avoid being mocked for yet another incomplete product (similar to N900's case as most of us would know anyway). That is what I personally believe ever since I lost my chances of obtaining one.

I am sure that the N950 wasn't scrapped was solely because of that, that it was seen as a potential developer platform for the upcoming N9 rather than to be marked as waste and be used elsewhere. Had the N900 not been so much of Nokia's blunder, the N950 would have been in the hands of public domain and we would not be receiving the crippled version of N950 that it stands now where it doesn't have microSD option, it should come with 64GB option (there were two versions of N950, the initial one had I think 32GB but the current one is only 16GB). It would also have 12MP camera not the now 8MP (as some proud N950 owners rumoured).

That said, if you look at some of the previous N950 leaks including the one from Chinese source, wouldn't you think their device specifications would be better than possibly some of the current N950 owners would have? If so, why don't you go harass them instead?

Needless to say that as of writing on this date, there's one possible final way that one maybe able to obtain N950, and that is to participate in the Meego coding competition. If you are that desperate, I surely hope you would have started coding some softwares that would meet their requirements if you want to win (and be happy with N950 if you could get one for winning the competition).
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True. But, honestly, what *would* a single unit cost? I mean, someone already figured sort of what it would take, and I'm sure there are plenty of industrious chinese with access to new parts that could do it... I'm sure there's an electronics firm that specializes in one-off and small run parts that could do it.
The only question is how much. And I'm actually very curious.

Considering that the Cordia tablet(which, admittedly, is pretty stock hardware with a couple of changes at best) is looking at being able to sell them for $300 with a 250 starting batch size... I wonder. I really do.
Figure that a tegra2 smartphone costs somewhere in the $500 range, in quantity. A slider with all the other parts, somewhere around $100. So, 5-10k for a single unit, provided it's a fairly simple "toss circuit modules together, order board, assemble" type of thing might be possible. I don't know. I'd actually like to know.


edit:
Back to the original topic, why not buy a couple N900s, OC them to 1.15ghz. If you use a custom profile, you can do it. Install a SD card, set it up as second swap. Do transition configuration... You'll get at least as good as a N950, but without the downsides of the stupid TC bits.

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when talking with big lines, the first device costs $ xxxxx and the rest of the units something like parts + $10....

yes there are electronic firms that do small proto batches but you probably can't find any in china...

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There would be a market for designer phones. Like Nike shoes that you can personalize, choose different shapes and colors online. Online design and order with delivery in 1 month.....Anyone want to start a business?

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Synapse had an idea somewhat similar to that. If they still exist, they still haven't found a reliable web hosting solution though.

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nokia has been there and done that

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_5110

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No you won't. 256Mb RAM is showstopper :-(

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Honestly, not really. Doing some swap tweaks(along with OC) makes it not really noticible - I run out of CPU capacity before I run out of ram, unless I'm messing with crap like desktop apps via EasyDebian, and even then.
256mb of ram can be plenty... you just have to tweak the settings. Seriously.

And if tweaked right, it can still be perfectly responsive with most of the ram filled and it swapping!
I... just don't see the problem. For me, battery life(and no second core) is a far worse problem than the lack of extra ram.

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damn u all got smart about my request...

anyways... thanx to this topic i got me self n950... so it was worth after all =D

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If you actually did so, please open up the terminal, type "uname -a", enter, type your name, and take a picture.
That would prove that you actually have a N950(not a knock-off), and it was you that took the picture.
I'd be very interested to know...