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yerga 2007-07-16 22:58

Re: Maemo.org useless?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roadranger (Post 59948)
I thought about this a bit before this present post. First, I appreciate a Nokia guy coming on here and clarifying things for us. However - it would be nice if the Nokia folks identiifed themselves when they post - and it would be nice to fix the issues and not have to explain them.

Well, I am not employed at Nokia, so only I was trying to explain the things that I could know. I know that maemo people are working hard ( these days not :) ) in order that the maemo project 'triumphs', specially in maemo.org that is where it's more possible to observe.
Perfect that Quim could have explained with more detail every thing, even in his holidays. This it's the way.


Cheers.

meowson 2007-07-19 03:31

Re: Maemo.org useless?
 
Out of curiosity, I tried the register and I am redirected to garage.
I successfully register at garage. But the garage username/password does not work on maemo.org.

Funny!
tableteer - Users
maemo - Community
garage.maemo - Developers, Geeks, Hackers

Problems:
tableteer: does not have list of open/3rd party software on it.
Do you expect users to browse on the software repository on N800?
The list is far too unintuitive for average users.
A simple software catalogue of common software should be introduced there.
maemo and garage.maemo should merge!
N800 is difficult to use already to make every one a hacker level.
In my opinion, one of the most fatal part of the maemo web-site is the wrong decision to use G-forge.
The sourceforge like structure and organization is too inflexible and dull to everyone. I really didn't see there are more than 1000 application for maemo that needs a big repository for project spaces. A more Wiki style multi-level editing with a responsible moderator will give users and developers much more present experience.
It is now Web2.0 time, come on. The infra-structure on how easy for everyone to contribute and collaborate determine the success of all web site and web related products. If things still get old and slow, people will give up and things becomes legacy - go back to stone age.

It would be hard for them to react at this moment. :)
Let's have a little bit patience and see what they to in August.

Yours faithfully,

meowson

roadranger 2007-07-19 10:35

Re: Maemo.org useless?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by meowson (Post 61237)
Out of curiosity, I tried the register and I am redirected to garage.
I successfully register at garage. But the garage username/password does not work on maemo.org.

You are supposed to use your psychic powers to contact the "other side" where your spirit guide will tell yoiu that registering for "garage" will eventually get you registered on the main site. Nokia says 20 minute delay but I tried for at least an hour before giving up - but it did work the next day. Nokia hasn't actually stated that they will tell you about how this works on the site but I hope they will eventually? Read this entire thread for what the horse's mouth said.

meowson 2007-07-20 05:21

Re: Maemo.org useless?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roadranger (Post 61288)
You are supposed to use your psychic powers to contact the "other side" where your spirit guide will tell yoiu that registering for "garage" will eventually get you registered on the main site. Nokia says 20 minute delay but I tried for at least an hour before giving up - but it did work the next day. Nokia hasn't actually stated that they will tell you about how this works on the site but I hope they will eventually? Read this entire thread for what the horse's mouth said.

Yes, it works! It is magic! Not very intuitive though.

cynoclast 2007-12-11 22:09

Re: Maemo.org useless?
 
I wasn't even aware that garage.maemo.org and maemo.org were separate sites.

I created a login for what I thought was maemo.org, but it turned out to be for garage.maemo.org and doesn't work on maemo.org. If nothing else this confusion should be resolved by creating a separate domain for the user centric site and one for the crunchheads.

nosam 2007-12-11 22:38

Re: Maemo.org useless?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TA-t3 (Post 58979)
What I dislike the most is the wiki, which is IMO difficult to edit and very poorly organised (lots of pages are not in the index- or overview pages). The latter is probably caused by / made worse by the former.
I find the wikipedia-style wikis much easier to work with, I've basically given up on contributing to maemo's wiki.

Why not take the useful info in maemo's wiki and put it into the ITT wiki? This would be a big help. People can even just cut and paste and help to improve the ITT wiki without having to type or think much. :)

I agree that this links are wierd on maemo.org and some info is buried in the developer how-to instead of in the wiki which is hard to find and about as confusing as I think this long sentence I am writing right now is. (inhale).

YoDude 2007-12-11 23:48

Re: Maemo.org useless?
 
One of the first sites a new N800 user goes to is Maemo.org. Unfortunately, in the past they were greeted with bad certificate pop-ups, inability to register or log-in, searches that brought back results that were only relevant to the 770, etc.
This was a bad first impression and sometimes the start of a poor attitude when the user eventialy ended up here at itT.

There have been some huge improvements though, but there is still one issue that bugs me to all 'ell.

Because OS2008 is new I thought I could check in daily to see if the number of apps available has changed on the title page @ http://downloads.maemo.org/OS2008
I would then look through the categories to see if there was something useful.

For the longest time it had been 26, then it went to 29, then back to 26, then up to 34, then back down to 26. At one time it was 54, now it is again at 26...

What's up with that?

I have flushed my cache, then even cleared my cookies to be sure, I've checked from all the various machines I have access to and still this number fluctuates. Why have it listed at all if it is not reliable?

technut 2007-12-12 01:23

Re: Maemo.org useless?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cynoclast (Post 107364)
I created a login for what I thought was maemo.org, but it turned out to be for garage.maemo.org and doesn't work on maemo.org.

IIRC, it does work on maemo.org, you just have to give it a bit of time to get propogated over or something. I seem to recall the sign-up page or an email said something like that.

slim 2007-12-12 01:28

Re: Maemo.org useless?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by YoDude (Post 107438)
One of the first sites a new N800 user goes to is Maemo.org. Unfortunately, in the past they were greeted with bad certificate pop-ups, inability to register or log-in, searches that brought back results that were only relevant to the 770, etc.
This was a bad first impression and sometimes the start of a poor attitude when the user eventialy ended up here at itT.

There have been some huge improvements though, but there is still one issue that bugs me to all 'ell.

Because OS2008 is new I thought I could check in daily to see if the number of apps available has changed on the title page @ http://downloads.maemo.org/OS2008
I would then look through the categories to see if there was something useful.

For the longest time it had been 26, then it went to 29, then back to 26, then up to 34, then back down to 26. At one time it was 54, now it is again at 26...

What's up with that?

I have flushed my cache, then even cleared my cookies to be sure, I've checked from all the various machines I have access to and still this number fluctuates. Why have it listed at all if it is not reliable?

I don't know why either, but here's the bug report:

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2488

EIPI 2007-12-12 12:55

Re: Maemo.org useless?
 
I signed up for a maemo.org account, and get the following error after attempting to verify my account. Anyone else have a similar experience, and any solutions?

"Access denied

Credentials you entered do not correspond to valid account."

Thanks.


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