Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

Sorry guy, but no one will buy bullsh|t about router that You were permitted to attack, yet, You had no idea about mac filtering being set on router.

Still, I'm not planning to continue this discussion here - it won't change a thing.

/Estel

// edit

As Your reply doesn't deserve answer in dedicated post:
Yea, world will care. We really couldn't live without You announcing it - take Your time and go cry somewhere else.

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

people like you are killing open source community..
have a nice day..

all updates will be sent to saturn, this is my last message on this board..

have a nice day you ego maniac

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

Relax guys.

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

looks like we got a fight over here !
security :p

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

Estel, you have not been provoked and you have not been called names. Your behaviour is totally unacceptable. This is an open community, you don't own it and you have to respect it.

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

Well, i haven't been calling names either. ho ever, if You feel that is OK an acceptable to seek assistance here, when using software - that You've written - for malicious purposes - it's Your business. Just consider, that it makes Your disclaimer inside application quite pointless, in case of any legal problems.

BTW, it's not kindergarden. I've stated clearly in 2dn post, that I'm not going to continue this discussion, and honestly, someone's declaration "I write that I won't write [sic!] anything again, now feel how it is to miss me!" is miserable at best, IMO.

Little disclaimer - "enforcing" fair use, in only way that is possible to us (i.e. denying help when someone is clearly using it for wrongs reasons, and/or asking to stop it) was a common and fair practice in any thread related to aircrack-ng in maemo.org.

I don't feel nor see anything unacceptable in what I've written - although, I do accept the fact that thread OP doesn't want "fair use, respect others" practice being actively presented here.

/Estel

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

i like this Estel this is the wrong thing that noobs trying to do.
at my first use to aircrack i got all wirelesses pwds in my neighborhood but then i realized this bad thing im doing reflecting on me so i stopped it and now im clean from that :D

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

I'm especially meaning things that create DoS effect on honest users - and using actually assigned MAC, without waiting for client to deauthenticate, does it for sure, same for most routers while reaver'ing - but, whatever...

Please, keep this productive thread clean from this discussion. It would be shame to bloat it, and thread OP clearly presented his position on this subject. I respect that, even if not agreeing, or thinking about it as "childish" at best.

/Estel

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

Estel, you clearly didn't understand what I told you. My point is: you cannot start bashing someone whenever you don't agree with him, even if you have hints he is doing something wrong. First because you might be wrong; second, it's not pedagogical; and third most importantly being polite is the only way a community can function properly.

An example might make it more clear to you:

The abusive ad hominem you have added at the end of the sentence is the worst thing you can do in a conversation..

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

Sorry Saturn, but if someone write "I tried to attack with Reaver and couldn't succeed for long time, then I tried to spoof MAC and it was it - damn, he was using MAC filtering" and, in next post "It was my friend/neighbour/dog's router, and I got permission to attack it", it's really abusive - it means that he is treating us as idiots.

Writing "you can never be sure about intentions" is pure sophism from your side - you can say like that in any situation, even if someone asks You details about preparing a most cheap, yet destructive bomb filled with steel nails.

As for "argumentum ad hominem" - it seems to me, that You're trying to tell me, that You actually agree with "fair use" requiment. Yet, You argue, due to out-of-merit things, trying to accuse me, because I haven't sugar-coated my post. It seems to fill criteria for "argumentum ad hominem" perfectly, even if You don't realize it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

Example:

What the hell owning Community have to do with fair use of software (that YOU have asked for in program disclaimer)?

/Estel

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

@Estel && Saturn
hold on people we are all at the same team there is no need to get in another fight ;)

./sifo

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

Sure. We need to explain him the problems due to his actions, he might have missed that part. If you like to help educating more users on the consequences of misuse, it's a noble thing to do and I've supported and done it myself many times in this thread.

I never said that. In any case, his intentions might be good but his actions might be wrong. Again, help is welcome but needs to be done in a polite/civilised way.

Politeness is not sugar-coating. I'm trying to explain you that we, as a community here, will all gain more if the conversations remain in a civilised tone.

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

This is not a fight. We are making a conversation.

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

ok then complete :D sorry :rolleyes:

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

And it seems, that we've reached point where we agree. As I understand it now, you're not defending his actions, but require a more polite tone of reminding it.

I became more harsh after his arrogant answer, where he sounds like exactly knowing that he's doing bad thing, yet, lying about it + demanding excuses from me. My first post sounds quite polite to me, maybe except part about keeping a** to his own router ;) It isn't sound very offending, IMO, especially in given context.

Still, I understand Your point, and agree - more polite answer would save us from this discussion & controversies. So, "peace & respect" - I think everything is clear now, and we can conclude this discussion. I'll try to bash educate evil-doers here as politely, as possible ;)

/Estel

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

I hate to do this, but I'm getting frustrated. I'm a newbie who needs some hand holding. I'm somewhat familiar with Backtrack, and I came across a used N900 for a more portable solution. I'm starting at zero with the N900. So far, all I've done is fix the USB port, and do a wipe by reinstalling the OS, from the directions here: http://mynokiablog.com/2010/01/03/ho...n900/#comments . I also installed rootsh. I also tried to add a new catalog, Maemo Extras, but apparently the tutorial I found was too old, and I get 404 errors. Oddly enough, when I go to the page manually, I get a catalog..

I managed to install Cleven, but of course it doesn't work. Loading the injection drivers makes the MAC address disappear, and I get the previously-mentioned error about the system not finding a known compatible kernel version. I see mention of KP50, but I don't know if that's an official kernel, or a hacked one, and if getting it would make things better or worse.

So:
1) What are the basic prerequisites for packages such as Cleven?

2) What is the best way to fix the compatible kernel issue?

3) Any other advice for a N900/Maemo newbie?

Thanks!

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

@RChadwick

1- you need injection drivers and some packages

2- install KP50 it is better than the original nokia kernel

3- the best advice to always use the power search button on the right of this page before asking or posting threads !

4- and don't accept candies from a stranger :D

./sifo

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

Thanks for the reply. However, I'm still confused. I thought Cleven already had (Or automatically got) the injection drivers, or am I wrong? Also, I found KP50, but no mention of how to actually install. Is there a tutorial on how to install KP50? Or any tutorial for someone starting at zero? Most of the tutorials I've found seem outdated.

Also, I've been searching. And searching. And searching. Over 30 open tabs, just on Maemo, and I'm still confused. Most of it seems to be based on a basic understanding of the N900, which I don't have.

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

we dont need to hijack this thread have a look at this link and post there what you want :
KP50 THREAD

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

@RChadwick

the thing is, that Cleven does pull injection drivers as dependency, but, injection drivers itself require kp50. Normally, You should get it pulled automatically, but from Your description, it seems to me, that You're installing every package by hand, instead of using repositories? I.e. You download it from package maintenance system, and dpkg -i on device, right?

This is going to bring You many dependency problems, unless You're really experienced. Even if so, it's unnecessary to make it harder, without any good purpose. Please, click "community": button on top of this page, then "Use the wiki", and, from there, search for articles about repositories. You don't need to add extras - it's already available for You, after reflashing - You need extras-testing (for kp50) or extras-devel, if you know what You're doing.

/Estel

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

This thread is all you need for install kp50 and bleeding edge (Packet injection wifi driver), check it carefully and install the necessary packages:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...t=kernel+power

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

please somebody tell step by step guide to use cleven. plz plz plz its important

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

Important for what? If you can't figure out it's probably not important enough for you.

Generally it helps if you understand the underlying commands of the aircrack-ng suite.

For WEP:
Configure drivers (just use kernel-power50 and it will be allright)
associate with AP
capture data
enough data? -> decrypt

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

buddy can u plz upload a video? plz?

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

why people don't bother to read at least the first page of threats, THE FULL INSTRUCTIONS WAS ALREADY GIVEN BY SATURN ON THE FIRST PAGE IN YOUR CASE.

threats as far as I understand are for technical issues not for lazy people who " please I need to know how to use this app " and do not even bother to spend few min. searching for answers already given many times on some cases, this is why we have hundreds of pages of crap instead of real answers to real technical problems and users who have real problems have to spend hours reading crap.

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

One would have thanked a lot if one could manage to upload a video with complete noob instructions because there is a lot of stuff to understand all about cleven and reaver and walsh etc . Oh and there are dictionaries too .I really wanted to use this application but since i couldnt find myself anything more precisely helpful ,i am gonna consider myself ''lazy''.Anyhow hope some day my N900 will find a way to crack my own router's WPA.Between this app seems a total fun.thanks saturn .

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

I didn't meant to be rude, if I offended anybody I will like to apologize. I am also a noob and still learning, in my case I search for answers before I ask questions.

In this case the on how to use cleven as I said there is a link on the first page to wiki.

re dictionaries my apologize but English is not my native language.

re reaver does not crack WPA but guesses WPS pin so for WPA key you will need a very good dictionary after retrieving the handshake something that you should already have if you are trying on your router the way you mentioned above

edit: was also mentioned many times on maemo threats Google and the Power Search button on the top right side of the page is also your best friend and you will find noob answers much more faster than waiting for one.

sorry saturn for the off topic.

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

Thanks Gor ,finally i have managed to understand it all.thanks man.
Hopefully i will be able to crack a wpa soon. Thank you saturn.

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

Officialy added on my todolist: Video of WEP hacking through Cleven, Wifite, faircrack and aircrack-ng itself
Might consider WPS and WPA after that. Please PM me about the best screencap solution for N900?

Well there are some good videos about aircrack-ng on N900 too!


Yet he is whining about that it's really important but if it's that important he would already found out? I don't think it's that hard to figure out. Besides I posted a quick-guide which is detailed enough to help you on the right track. If he got any more specific question, I won't mind answering that

Still, I really recommend first using the aircrack-ng commadline tool suite to find out what you are exactly doing. It will give you a better understanding of how wlan-hacking works

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

im not into a linux cuz i mostly use windows so i dunno much abt this linux

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

@seanmcken
did you read aircrack-ng FAQ from the first post ? im a windows user too never used Linux before but i got most of my answers by reading and searching and of course from the great people here thank you !.
and giving you the ways and answers directly wont be a good thing to do you need to learn first then you will understand everything by yourself so this is your start station go ==>

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

mayby its time to think of starting a technical section where tech.problems can be discussed and noob questions are filtered. that will take out crap. just a suggestion and don't know if it is possible.
regards

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

Maybe I missed it, but is there an easy way to view the WPS key recovered by Reaver? After Reaver finds the key, it exits immediately, and it doesn't show up in the found keys list. I'm sure I could just run Reaver from the command line using the last PIN tried, but a GUI would be easier :)

Also, Is there a better-working version of Reaver than 112? It can only associate with about 25% of access points, while Reaver running under x86 can connect to 90%.

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

Hi, it was mentioned but I never put it in the wiki.

Check the file created with the mac address and/or the reaver.db for the pin and passphrase respectively (from what i recall - I don't have the device in front of me).

Last version is 113 and it has some fix for the wash command. Development has stopped and in the future will come as a module in aircrack. The association is not related to reaver per se but how did you come to those percentages?

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

Saturn thk u very much for ths applocation

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

Raden please dont post here like chatting :)

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

sifo, you signature is too long. thanks.

see: http://talk.maemo.org/faq.php?faq=vb...q_tmorulestext

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

@Saturn

do you like it now ? :)

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

Saturn is correct. Thanks to both Saturn and Estel , they advised me to install dbBrowser from repos and then simply open reaver.db

Re: [Announce] Cleven - an aircrack gui
 

Hi
a quick one about reaver
when we have a ap with space do we have to use "ap name" or just the ap name ?
ex?
reaver -i wlan0 -b bssid -c 11 -e my ap -d 15 -vv
or
reaver -i wlan0 -b bssid -c 11 -e "my ap" -d 15 -vv
ps
my wash in nor working. any ideas?