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somedude 2011-08-11 00:28

Re: Orly? N9 not coming to USA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by onethreealpha (Post 1067558)
Just got an email yesterday from nokia (au), confirming my subscription to the N9 update list, and letting me know more info is coming soon......

I'll ship to the states..... for a small fee :D

i will pay small fee only for a n9

volt 2011-08-11 00:42

Re: Orly? N9 not coming to USA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sony123 (Post 1067587)
WP7 might help NOK survive a little longer, but I don't believe it will propel NOK-MS very far. On the other hand, I still believe N9 has a chance to be successful in Asia...


I honestly to the Goddesses believe, and this is the best analysis I can come up with, I honestly belive that

NOT DOING ANYTHING RIGHT;

- ignoring the competition,
- keeping to make small incremental attempts at improving the slow dinosaur Symbian,
- PR work like they did on the N8, nothing better than that,
- continuing to having a hard-to-develop for platform like Symbian has been,

would keep NOK survive longer. In fact, at least half a decade longer. They sold a whole lot of phones as late as January. Symbian were a _growing_ platform, G.d.i.

That wasn't the only path Nokia had to choose from. If they had chosen MY preferred path, Maemo and/or MeeGo would be a nice addition to the smartphone world, and Qt on either S40 or S60 would run on lower end phones all across the globe (except North America). I believe MeeGo+Qt is sell-able, but what do I know.

Instead they chose a pretty quick road to elimination. Was it the right thing to do? Stock market says no. What Nokia did, is nothing short of betrayal to it's stock holders.

What Nokia did, is nothing short of betrayal to it's quite large developer base. You know what Microsoft says about developers? Yes, THEY are the ecosystem. Nokia wanted to have one of the three large ecosystems? They HAD one of the three large ecosystems.

Never again.

What Nokia did, is nothing short of betrayal to it's fan base. The sales numbers tell me they must have a fan base somewhere. Well, not any more. Anything these fans liked, has been pissed on, then lit on fire. Now they can hope to inherit the Microsoft Phone fan base. What is left of it after MS took away Windows Mobile, Kin, and temporarily Copy & Paste, multitasking etc. But at best, even if they should have a high percentage of fan users, we're talking a small numbers.

As it's going now, Nokia as a stand alone Corp is finished. We all see it (except those agents of controverse who traverse these here threads wearing the name of some company rival to the one they are eMployees for). The path of WP7 has halved Nokias worth. It's easy to take away half of the stock value. It's very hard to double the stock value, especially when the income is also suffering colossally over night.

I did not, do not want to let go of the idea of Nokia; the innovateur. However, that's what Nokia already decided to do, so what's left, I have no sympathy for.

*phew*

olighak 2011-08-11 01:16

Re: Orly? N9 not coming to USA
 
from stephen.elop att-nokia.com
sender-time Sent at 21:11 (UTC). Current time there: 1:14 AM. ✆
to olighak
date Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 21:11
subject RE: No N9 in the US?
mailed-by nokia.com
Important mainly because of your interaction with messages in the conversation.

hide details 21:11 (2 minutes ago)

Thanks for the note.

The primary reason is the need to concentrate our efforts. There are very limited slots available in retail outlets, and tight limits on marketing funds, thus it is important that we focus our efforts.

We are looking at whether the N9 can be available through some online resellers.

Regards,

Stephen
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-----Original Message-----
From: ext [mailto:olighak]
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 02:42
To: Elop Stephen (Nokia/Espoo)
Subject: No N9 in the US?

Mr. Elop,

What's the reason for not releasing the beautiful N9 in the US? Your beloved WP can't live with people having options?

Maemo/Meego could have done wonders for fraction of the advertising budget that is going to thrown at the WP effort.

The words Microsoft and Nokia have pretty much become interchangeable in press announcements for mobile devices. It's sad to see a good company like Nokia flushed down the drain the way you are taking it.

Sincerely,
a Nokia customer for 13 years, and soon to be an ex-customer.
--
Name

Cell:
Fax:
E-mail: olighak

Sent from my Nokia N900

Rugoz 2011-08-11 01:27

Re: Orly? N9 not coming to USA
 
Quote:

The primary reason is the need to concentrate our efforts. There are very limited slots available in retail outlets, and tight limits on marketing funds, thus it is important that we focus our efforts.

We are looking at whether the N9 can be available through some online resellers.
I guess it wasn't elop responding but anyway, as an optimist I see the positive side of that statement. It could mean the N9 will actually see significant advertising in the countries it will be offered. Good news ;)

olighak 2011-08-11 01:28

Re: Orly? N9 not coming to USA
 
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Originally Posted by Rugoz (Post 1067634)
I guess it wasn't elop responding but anyway, as an optimist I see the positive side of that statement. It could mean the N9 will actually see significant advertising in the countries it will be offered. Good news ;)

No, but anyone allowed to send emails as Stephen Elop will have to follow (I would think) a pretty tight rope for how he answers, and what he is allowed to say.

So IŽd think emails from that account would be as good as information out of Nokia gets.

gerbick 2011-08-11 03:45

Re: Orly? N9 not coming to USA
 
This is my semi-hourly "**** you Nokia" statement...

This American feels better.

somedude 2011-08-11 04:00

Re: Orly? N9 not coming to USA
 
wow thats a record if that email reply really was from ELOP ge didnt use the word ecosystem in that whole paragraph

ysss 2011-08-11 04:55

Re: Orly? N9 not coming to USA
 
I propose to install one of those keywords-clouds forum plugin, sp we can see a graphical representation of how loud the community is yelling F*** ELOP!! And F*** NOKIA!!

danramos 2011-08-11 06:42

Re: Orly? N9 not coming to USA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 1067545)
You people are a lousy bunch of analysts LOL. I said earlier that WP+Nokia will be a hit and was ridiculed. As things turn out it actually looks like Nokia-WP will make it OK, they are really going for it.

Now the exact same people are trying to have me ridiculed for saying that the N9 will sell in numbers, and the reason: Nokia-WP will sell in numbers instead. And of course all the Eflop and M$ and killing Nokia and whatnot.

WP-Nokia will be OK, the N9 will be OK. Nokia will be OK. That is what will happen. The reason you can't see that is because you are thinking with your fanboy guts instead of your brains (not that it would actually make that much difference for you anyway :) )

http://static2.businessinsider.com/i...lmer-nokia.png

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-js5lDD3grQ...g%2Bnokia3.png

Also... F*** ELOP!! And F*** NOKIA!!

volt 2011-08-11 07:34

Re: Orly? N9 not coming to USA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 1067545)
You people are a lousy bunch of analysts LOL. I said earlier that WP+Nokia will be a hit and was ridiculed. As things turn out it actually looks like Nokia-WP will make it OK, they are really going for it.

(...)
WP-Nokia will be OK, the N9 will be OK. Nokia will be OK. That is what will happen. The reason you can't see that is because you are thinking with your fanboy guts instead of your brains

http://bors.e24.no/e24/images/chart/...7698f87470.png


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