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erendorn 2011-08-11 18:04

Re: Orly? N9 not coming to USA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by somedude (Post 1067987)
so you are saying as long as the attack doesnot involve a member of this forum its ok to carry it along?

As long as it is not threat or other things that would fall under the law (and moderation would want to intervene). Because they are public persons, you can express criticism.

somedude 2011-08-11 19:39

Re: Orly? N9 not coming to USA
 
so you are calling Elop a public figure? may I ask how is that public figure described? Yeah he is a CEO of a company and has been seen in tv videos when called upon a interview and has a profile posted online and you can have a two way conversation with him (hypothetically) by exchanging emails or other online interaction, he is talked among media. out of these four ground i can think of right now putiing it very simple every individual in this forum would be a public figure since it mathces 2 out of four of these criteria.

somedude 2011-08-11 19:42

Re: Orly? N9 not coming to USA
 
all in all i think this is more about being in a thin line of how you see or grasp the meaning of a word.
enough of my off topic discussion.
now some one else can churn in other off topic discussion.

shallimus 2011-08-11 19:47

Re: Orly? N9 not coming to USA
 
I'd argue that asterisked or not, such sentiments do not belong here. Yes, a great many of us are unhappy with the way things are going (going, gone...) but it'd be nice to see the signal-to-noise ratio here return to even a fraction of what it used to be.

Nice threads right now:

geneven 2011-08-11 20:44

Re: Orly? N9 not coming to USA
 
In defense of threads like this -- getting factual information out of Nokia is not easy. I just learned today that South Africa is open to the N9. I like learning more about grep, but collecting information and commentary about the fate of our N900s etc is important to most of us.

scapegoat845 2011-08-11 22:08

Re: Orly? N9 not coming to USA
 
WTF IS GOING ON HERE !? I'm praying this thing doesn't get cancelled....

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/11/n...en-more-meage/

s4br0s0 2011-08-11 22:29

Re: Orly? N9 not coming to USA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scapegoat845 (Post 1068106)
WTF IS GOING ON HERE !? I'm praying this thing doesn't get cancelled....

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/11/n...en-more-meage/


Grettings.

oweng 2011-08-11 22:34

Re: Orly? N9 not coming to USA
 
Here's an idea, how about you email Mr Elop (or whoever happens to be replying on his behalf)?

I found it most useful.

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75667


Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 1068076)
In defense of threads like this -- getting factual information out of Nokia is not easy. I just learned today that South Africa is open to the N9. I like learning more about grep, but collecting information and commentary about the fate of our N900s etc is important to most of us.


onethreealpha 2011-08-11 23:00

Re: Orly? N9 not coming to USA
 
Nokia will not risk confusing their targetted WP handset markets.

The media tends to look at worldwide figures and statistics, but consideration should be given to country by country stats too.

Quite obviously, Nokia/MS are receiving market-based research that suggests opportunities will present themselves in the UK and Germany, where they may not have at the time of the original N9 announcement.

Allowing 3rd party vendors to sell the N9 in these countries, leaves all the admin and logistics out of their hands, as well as the advertising, which ultimately will decide the success of the handset.
Do you think nokia is going to invest heavily in pushing a handset, when it's OS is so dramatically different to it's preferred smartphone OS?

The N9 is as much a proof of concept as it is a proof of IP (and ensuing patent enforcement). It will guarantee Nokia has leverage against anyone who tries to develop and market a UI/UX that is similar and has managed to keep a whole host of devs on side for just long enough to continue supporting Nokia QT application development, pending the move to WP.

Increasingly, Nokia's relying on income through other revenue streams like patent and IP enforcement through licensing deals.

Hardware development has always been their strong point, as has been proven in recent years by their inability to deliver a clear and focused strategy wrt OS and UX products.

ultimately, it may be easier for the board to look at guaranteed income through licensing of patents, than it is to try and win a race that they are already losing.

the withdrawal of the N9 from an increasing number of european markets, may have more to do with MS than anything else.

oweng 2011-08-11 23:08

Re: Orly? N9 not coming to USA
 
Hmmm, they never announced that they would release throughout Europe and it looks as if actually they will make it available for online retailers.

The engadget article about it being withdrawn from Germany looks a tillte off the mark, or in the very least like sloppy journalism.

Mr Elop (or PA) apparently endorses its availability. He's clear in stating that WP is the future strategy - perhaps not what we want to hear, but to be fair he's being honest.

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75667

Quote:

Originally Posted by onethreealpha (Post 1068142)
the withdrawal of the N9 from an increasing number of european markets, may have more to do with MS than anything else.



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