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gordonshowers 2011-08-10 12:36
Re: What's wrong with the USA?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by brandonc (Post 1066902)
well you do have some advantages of unlocked phones, you can sign up for service with your own equipment, waiving those fees, and it also protects you from paying mandatory smartphone data plans as they are unable to tell what kind of device it is.
They are entirely able to tell what sort of device it is, from the IMEI:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_Allocation_Code

sjgadsby 2011-08-10 13:03
Re: What's wrong with the USA?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gordonshowers (Post 1067196)
They are entirely able to tell what sort of device it is, from the IMEI:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_Allocation_Code
A cellular provider needs to be looking though. From browsing assorted Internet forums, it appears AT&T and T-Mobile US regularly spot those using Android phones on cheap, "non-smartphone" data plans and force those users up to higher tiers. N900 users, on the other hand, seem to slip by unnoticed. There aren't that many N900s in the United States, and the percentage of those sneaking around on non-smartphone plans is likely such a tiny fraction of a fraction that persuing it isn't worth the effort.

If the N9 isn't released in the US at all, then it would seem the odds are good neither AT&T nor T-Mobile will bother adding its IMEI range to their watch lists.

Crashdamage 2011-08-10 13:12
Re: What's wrong with the USA?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 1067149)
The N9 is released in all parts of the world where Nokia is large. You know that it's only a couple of months since Symbian was the largest smartphone OS, by far. Still they were nowhere to be seen in the US. The world hasnt really changed all that much since then, only Android becoming popular world wide, thanks to Samsung.

People like you make me glad the N9 wont be seen in the US.
People like me have used and promoted Linux for years. People like me plunk down $650 to pre-order a N900 sight unseen. People like me would buy a N9 just as a show of support for MeeGo if it appeared to have any future at all. I'm tempted to order one anyway for just that reason, even though I really need a hardware keyboard. But realistically I'm not so rich I can blow $750 on a device not suited to my needs just to make a point.

I was only stating the situation as I see it. If that makes me an Ugly American so be it.

Zoxir 2011-08-10 13:33
Re: What's wrong with the USA?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crashdamage (Post 1067232)
People like me have used and promoted Linux for years. People like me plunk down $650 to pre-order a N900 sight unseen. People like me would buy a N9 just as a show of support for MeeGo if it appeared to have any future at all. I'm tempted to order one anyway for just that reason, even though I really need a hardware keyboard. But realistically I'm not so rich I can blow $750 on a device not suited to my needs just to make a point.

I was only stating the situation as I see it. If that makes me an Ugly American so be it.
Don't even bother man why give money to some ******s that didn't even tell you the truth but gave us some market to market excuse. I wish I could somehow be there when Nokia becomes the latest fail in this joke that has been going on for years and it is called windows for mobile phones.

strongm 2011-08-10 13:53
Re: What's wrong with the USA?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 1067149)
The N9 is released in all parts of the world where Nokia is large.
Nokia is large in the UK - and they are not releasing the N9 there

Helmuth 2011-08-10 14:01
Re: Orly? N9 not coming to USA
 
I bought Nokia phones since 1997. But now I really hope Samsung, HTC and LG will release soon some decent MeeGo phones to show the Nokia 2% WP7 niche market share how the smartphone buisness really works!

gerbick 2011-08-10 14:06
Re: What's wrong with the USA?
 
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Originally Posted by buchanmilne (Post 1067029)
What does tethering have to do with having a smart phone? The Nokia 6600 had GPRS tethering over bluetooth, and virtually any Nokia feature phone still has that feature ...
Tethering in the US means that you'll get charged. Show me otherwise.

Verizon is stopping illegal tethering same for AT&T. Funny how "illegal tethering" also means that bluetooth tethering without a tethering data plan (which is extra) is inclusive in these crack downs.

Glad you brought up the Nokia 6600. It's 2011. Not 2003. The US carriers are charging for those old features. If you're not American, do more research. If you are American, and getting away with that... please share your secret.

jo21 2011-08-10 14:19
Re: What's wrong with the USA?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1067280)
Tethering in the US means that you'll get charged. Show me otherwise.

Verizon is stopping illegal tethering same for AT&T. Funny how "illegal tethering" also means that bluetooth tethering without a tethering data plan (which is extra) is inclusive in these crack downs.

Glad you brought up the Nokia 6600. It's 2011. Not 2003. The US carriers are charging for those old features. If you're not American, do more research. If you are American, and getting away with that... please share your secret.
i am tether happy in my country. =) , though n9 come built with wifi hotspot.

even n900 supports all tetherings,

the thing is finding a "cheap" unlocked imported n9 in america will be hard :(

te37v 2011-08-10 14:22
Re: Orly? N9 not coming to USA
 
one word - Newegg

debernardis 2011-08-10 14:56
Re: What's wrong with the USA?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1067280)
It's 2011. Not 2003. The US carriers are charging for those old features. If you're not American, do more research. If you are American, and getting away with that... please share your secret.
I thought carriers base on TTL to spot tethering, and it is said there are programs that modify packets to escape detection.
Google 'tethering ttl' for further clarification.


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