iphone safari vs opera
 

hi, anyone know the main difference in functionality between both browsers? as far as i know they both can javascript. n800 can flash 9 but currently the safari cant. safari can do ajax fine, but opera cant(if so, its really slow).

anything else?

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I am typing this from my iPhone, and truthfully I find it to be a lot more pleasurable to browse on. Sorry N800.

Edit: just wanted to add this...

Its way easier to type on the iPhone especially with the widescreen keyboard in safari.

The scrolling and zooming is infintely smoother, and it handles most of the complex websites I throw at it with ease. I wish that the n800 handled sites as well, but it just isn't so.

I typically turn off flash support, since its usually advertisemts I don't care about.

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Yes, on the Ajax support iPhone's Safari is way ahead of Opera for the N800... we have Flash 9 now, but soon the iPhone will have Flash also -- supposedly Apple wants to optimize it so that pages with multiple flash objects will not overwhelm the browser.

Well, the big difference is that Apple in typical fashion is throwing a full compliment of resources at the problem of making Safari on the iPhone run well... somehow, Nokia is not doing the same thing with the N800. On the other hand we now have Skype on the N800...

-- Denis

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Too bad the iPhone keyboard doesnt change from landscape to portrait keyboard with the orientation sensor. Real flaw there :P

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It may be smoother, but the low resolution of the iPhone probably needs more horizontal scrolling or do they have a solution for that?

Actually I do rarely need any zooming on my N800, since I fixed the minimum font size. Zooming is time consuming and clumsy.

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hi, any other features safari has that opera doesnt?

how about in terms of rendering a web page on a n800 3g, vs safari edge? from trying the safari iphone in the store, it seems that iphone can render a page close to the speed of an n800 on 3g?

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You can only compare the Wifi speeds of both devices. Edge is dead slow, thus a N800 + 3g phone is much better solution.

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not really. n800 on 3g phone still takes time to render a full page due to processor. since the iphone is much faster, rendering a page on edge may be behind the n800 on 3g by not so much. there should be a youtube video comparing speeds.

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Rendering time on the N800 is quite fast. Even if the iPhone renders faster (does it? somebody checked with wifi?), the slow download times with Edge do matter a lot. Try it with websites with a lot of pics.

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There's also the fact that because the N800 is limited to DUN, which simulates a serial port (rather than PAN), the Bluetooth connection could be slower than the 3G connection.

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Slower than Edge? :eek:

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Actually, the keyboard will rotate to landscape when using Safari.

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The page rendering on my N800 + Verizon EVDO is a lot faster than my iPhone on Edge. Both devices on wifi are pretty comparable, but I think the iPhone is slightly faster.

When I am at home, the N800 is my primary device to carry around the house for browsing. I rarely have to zoom in for pages unlike the iPhone. But when I leave the house, I bring my iPhone, because the size is so much better for carrying around in my pants pocket.

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there really isn't any horizontal scrolling. You have to see the scaling in action to appreciate how amazing it is.

It can fit more content horizontally than the n800, even at 320 480.

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I'm with Tabletfan, around the house the N800 seems a little more robust in browsing, the iphone is really good, but I think I have just gotten addicted to the 800 pixel wide screen. However when mobile, the iphone browser is *much* better than the webkit browser on S60 phones, the rendering handles more complex web pages better. I carry a bag most places and use the N800 as more of a laptop replacement than a web browser so the iPhone would never replace it in that capacity.
IMHO the iphone still feels like I am on a mobile phone with a great browser for the web (maybe cos its a mobile phone) whereas the N800 feels like a mini-laptop (albeit a pretty slow mini laptop).

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Thanks for making this clear. Actually that's what I was expecting.

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any of you know what makes ajax choke up opera? i thought flash 9 would be more intensive than something like google docs, or even something like diggs commenting system. iphone safari can use simple ajax but not ajax found on diggs site.