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trisha02 2011-08-17 08:46

Bought new original N900 battery 1430 mAh (guide how to charge and use)
 
jst bought an original N900 battery of 1430 mAh.can u plz guide me how to use it...how to charge so tht it does not destroy easiy...

m750 2011-08-17 09:01

Re: Bought new original N900 battery 1430 mAh (guide how to charge and use)
 
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/a...ased_batteries

trisha02 2011-08-17 22:32

Re: Bought new original N900 battery 1430 mAh (guide how to charge and use)
 
does the battery need to adjust with the phones usage? cz my new 1430 mAh is not impressing me tht much.its capacity is not upto the standard of 1430 mAh..shud i wait or shud i return it back..

dr_frost_dk 2011-08-17 23:11

Re: Bought new original N900 battery 1430 mAh (guide how to charge and use)
 
do you have a link to the battery you bought?
did you use any info from my thread?

AND
did you read that there are alot of fake battery's out there hence why i made that thread.

trisha02 2011-08-18 05:45

Re: Bought new original N900 battery 1430 mAh (guide how to charge and use)
 
no..i bought it from here(my country)..its original..they took it out from another N900.its original..i jst want to kno weder it will show more mAh in batterygraph since its 1430 mAh..is der any way to caliberate battery..i read in some thread that the battery needs to adjust with the usage and charging and discharging

mece 2011-08-18 06:55

Re: Bought new original N900 battery 1430 mAh (guide how to charge and use)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trisha02 (Post 1072204)
no..i bought it from here(my country)..its original..they took it out from another N900.its original..i jst want to kno weder it will show more mAh in batterygraph since its 1430 mAh..is der any way to caliberate battery..i read in some thread that the battery needs to adjust with the usage and charging and discharging

you dont need to do anything special. Just put it in the phone, charge it, use the phone until it says battery is low, recharge again. Sometimes the battery performance improve after a few charges, but it's not something you need to do specially for that.

pusak gaoq 2011-08-18 08:17

Re: Bought new original N900 battery 1430 mAh (guide how to charge and use)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trisha02 (Post 1071645)
jst bought an original N900 battery of 1430 mAh.can u plz guide me how to use it...how to charge so tht it does not destroy easiy...

the best way to keep your battery last longer is...

1.if it still new then insert it on your device & recharge it without switching on your device....
2.at 1st recharge just recharge it until it full...some shop said to recharge at least 8-10 hour...dont do that cause if you do then your battery will not last longer...
3.after your battery running flat always recharge the battery while your device is switch off...dont not charge will the device is on cause you will not get full charge of the battery....
4.if you have an external charger then use it rather than recharge it using your device....external charger got it advantages...method 1,2 & 3 can be done with it & you can use your other battery (old battery) on your device before you change the battery after recharge...

trisha02 2011-08-18 09:43

Re: Bought new original N900 battery 1430 mAh (guide how to charge and use)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pusak gaoq (Post 1072246)
the best way to keep your battery last longer is...

1.if it still new then insert it on your device & recharge it without switching on your device....
2.at 1st recharge just recharge it until it full...some shop said to recharge at least 8-10 hour...dont do that cause if you do then your battery will not last longer...
3.after your battery running flat always recharge the battery while your device is switch off...dont not charge will the device is on cause you will not get full charge of the battery....
4.if you have an external charger then use it rather than recharge it using your device....external charger got it advantages...method 1,2 & 3 can be done with it & you can use your other battery (old battery) on your device before you change the battery after recharge...

if i always charge it after switching it off then after turning it on after full charge i wont get full battery cz it takes a lot of charge after turning it on...after buying it i put it on my N900 and charged it for 2 hrs (untill fully charged) then after i turned it on it showed only 80 percent left.

i hav few questions
1) when i had stock battery of 1320 mAh in battery graph it showed 1222 mAh but after buying 1430 mAh one it still shows 1222

2) if i turn off my device and charge it the whole night will it affect my battery?

dr_frost_dk 2011-08-18 12:03

Re: Bought new original N900 battery 1430 mAh (guide how to charge and use)
 
I you also try to write properly not in sms code then it will be much easier to help and understand, so far i don't get what you are trying to say.

On battery charging just use it, don't turn you N900 off or anything.

And a note on the capacity, it will not have more capacity after a few charges, this i can confirm after testing 20+ battery's for the N900, and god knows how many for other things.

reinob 2011-08-18 12:22

Re: Bought new original N900 battery 1430 mAh (guide how to charge and use)
 
@trisha,

I still don't know what your problem is. You have a new battery, obviously not the original N900 battery (capacity: 1320 mAh), but you're not satisfied with its performance.. is that it? :)

First of all: AFAIK there's nothing special to do about the battery. I've always recharged my (original) battery without turning the N900 off, and it's always been OK.

Second of all :)
The battery reporting on the N900 is a bit messy as far as I can tell. Once thing to check is if you are using the bq27x00_battery module (comes with the kernel-power) or not.

If bq27x00_battery be aware that the values it gives are mostly crap for all I care(d). You can look for posts about this (I think dr_frost_dk and Estel have a solid understanding of the issues with this module).

Try blacklisting the module and see what your good old N900 tells you about the battery (using e.g. lshal.. or conky).

dr_frost_dk 2011-08-18 13:27

Re: Bought new original N900 battery 1430 mAh (guide how to charge and use)
 
No thats Estel area with the module, but for arguments sake with the "reporting" capacity.

here is a lshal | grep battery from mine with the 3000mAh+ battery.

Code:

~ $ lshal | grep battery
  battery.charge_level.capacity_state = 'ok'  (string)
  battery.charge_level.current = 4  (0x4)  (int)
  battery.charge_level.design = 8  (0x8)  (int)
  battery.charge_level.last_full = 0  (0x0)  (int)
  battery.charge_level.percentage = 40  (0x28)  (int)
  battery.charge_level.unit = 'bars'  (string)
  battery.is_rechargeable = true  (bool)
  battery.present = true  (bool)
  battery.rechargeable.is_charging = false  (bool)
  battery.rechargeable.is_discharging = true  (bool)
  battery.remaining_time = 7200  (0x1c20)  (int)
  battery.remaining_time.calculate_per_time = false  (bool)
  battery.reporting.current = 496  (0x1f0)  (int)
  battery.reporting.design = 1227  (0x4cb)  (int)
  battery.reporting.last_full = 0  (0x0)  (int)
  battery.reporting.unit = 'mAh'  (string)
  battery.type = 'pda'  (string)
  battery.voltage.current = 3794  (0xed2)  (int)
  battery.voltage.design = 4200  (0x1068)  (int)
  battery.voltage.unit = 'mV'  (string)
  info.capabilities = {'battery'} (string list)
  info.category = 'battery'  (string)

as you can see battery.reporting.design says 1227 but this battery was tested a few weeks ago to 2859mAh (has lost some mAh in the time i have used it)

So again do put anything into the normal reporting system, if you want to test it try Estel's capacity testing module thingy :)

trisha02 2011-08-18 14:48

Re: Bought new original N900 battery 1430 mAh (guide how to charge and use)
 
as you can see battery.reporting.design says 1227 but this battery was tested a few weeks ago to 2859mAh (has lost some mAh in the time i have used it)

how did u get to figure that out..how to find mine?

dr_frost_dk 2011-08-18 15:05

Re: Bought new original N900 battery 1430 mAh (guide how to charge and use)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trisha02 (Post 1072427)
as you can see battery.reporting.design says 1227 but this battery was tested a few weeks ago to 2859mAh (has lost some mAh in the time i have used it)

how did u get to figure that out..how to find mine?

WOW!!!!! are you trying to piss people off.....

staying calm.......



goto my thread.

it's in my signature....


.

read post 1 to 3., do it 5 times if you have to.....

.

ask Estel about his module and method of mesuring battery with the N900....

or

read the last 5 pages in my thread.

trisha02 2011-08-18 16:49

Re: Bought new original N900 battery 1430 mAh (guide how to charge and use)
 
why are u getting mad.stay calm.cant i ask something.

my new battery stops charging after 86 percent and shows full.what shud i do.this is my new battery information



BusyBox v1.10.2 (Debian 3:1.10.2.legal-1osso30+0m5) built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.

~ $ lshal|grep bat
battery.charge_level.capacity_state = 'full' (string)
battery.charge_level.current = 8 (0x8) (int)
battery.charge_level.design = 8 (0x8) (int)
battery.charge_level.last_full = 8 (0x8) (int)
battery.charge_level.percentage = 83 (0x53) (int)
battery.charge_level.unit = 'bars' (string)
battery.is_rechargeable = true (bool)
battery.present = true (bool)
battery.rechargeable.is_charging = false (bool)
battery.rechargeable.is_discharging = true (bool)
battery.remaining_time = 10800 (0x2a30) (int)
battery.remaining_time.calculate_per_time = false (bool)
battery.reporting.current = 1187 (0x4a3) (int)
battery.reporting.design = 1424 (0x590) (int)
battery.reporting.last_full = 1214 (0x4be) (int)
battery.reporting.unit = 'mAh' (string)
battery.type = 'pda' (string)
battery.voltage.current = 4088 (0xff8) (int)
battery.voltage.design = 4200 (0x1068) (int)
battery.voltage.unit = 'mV' (string)
info.capabilities = {'battery'} (string list)
info.category = 'battery' (string)
udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer_power_supply_battery_bq27200_0'
battery.charge_level.current = 1670 (0x686) (int)
battery.charge_level.design = 2056 (0x808) (int)
battery.charge_level.last_full = 1724 (0x6bc) (int)
battery.charge_level.percentage = 97 (0x61) (int)
battery.charge_level.rate = 406 (0x196) (int)
battery.is_rechargeable = true (bool)
battery.present = true (bool)
battery.rechargeable.is_charging = false (bool)
battery.rechargeable.is_discharging = true (bool)
battery.remaining_time = 11040 (0x2b20) (int)
battery.reporting.current = 1670 (0x686) (int)
battery.reporting.design = 2056 (0x808) (int)
battery.reporting.last_full = 1724 (0x6bc) (int)
battery.reporting.rate = 406 (0x196) (int)
battery.reporting.technology = 'Li-ion' (string)
battery.reporting.unit = 'mAh' (string)
battery.technology = 'lithium-ion' (string)
battery.type = 'primary' (string)
battery.voltage.current = 4054 (0xfd6) (int)
info.capabilities = {'battery'} (string list)
info.category = 'battery' (string)
info.udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer_power_supply_battery_bq27200_0' (string)
~ $

dr_frost_dk 2011-08-18 17:49

Re: Bought new original N900 battery 1430 mAh (guide how to charge and use)
 
Yes you can ask something, but you CAN especially read something!

This forum has been going on for some years, almost all info you would require is here, and all info on battery is covered in my thread, yes i may have to look at some pages, but almost all info is in first 3 posts, and linked to pages in the thread is also there.

AND you have been in my thread several days ago since you have posted there.

trisha02 2011-08-18 17:58

Re: Bought new original N900 battery 1430 mAh (guide how to charge and use)
 
yes..but i read the first three pages.those are about other batteries.but i bought a battery from local market because none of the suppliers cannot supply here.(bangladess) i hav submitted my battery info.plz comment on that.
it stopped charging after 86 percent.and after that it shows fully charged

reinob 2011-08-22 08:57

Re: Bought new original N900 battery 1430 mAh (guide how to charge and use)
 
@trisha02,

Could you try blacklisting the bq27x00_battery module. Otherwise you have two unknowns here.

Before suspecting a problem, it's wise to make your N900 as "stock" as possible, and that includes removing the bq27x00_battery module, which for some *reason* Nokia decided not to put in the stock kernel.


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