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marmistrz 2013-01-09 16:25

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sixwheeledbeast (Post 1312763)
I would just replace the stock one with hamster myself.

If I'd replace, I'd take Harmattan's filebox.

electroaudio 2013-01-10 12:43

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by int_ua (Post 1312733)
Any way to use different file selection dialog?

Or to edit/remove/disable the extra code that makes it to be a dumbed down version of gtk::filechooserdialog?
http://maemomm.garage.maemo.org/docs...serDialog.html

marmistrz 2013-01-10 14:41

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by electroaudio (Post 1313250)
Or to edit/remove/disable the extra code that makes it to be a dumbed down version of gtk::filechooserdialog?
http://maemomm.garage.maemo.org/docs...serDialog.html

Maybe just something like that

Code:

if (!powerUser)
{
    // do the stuff to dumb it
}


electroaudio 2013-01-12 11:11

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marmistrz (Post 1313295)
Maybe just something like that

Code:

if (!powerUser)
{
    // do the stuff to dumb it
}


We definately need a PowerUser flag in GConf! :)

sixwheeledbeast 2013-01-15 17:18

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
[Needed] A way of selecting text/IM messages for deleting, much like modest can.

norayr 2013-01-25 21:19

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
I am probably off topic, but I have to say what I expect from CSSU team most. To prepare a maemo fork. Fully featured Maemo fork.
Maemo cannot survive forever. But Qtmoko can. SHR can.
We will loose it forever if there would be no fork.

The fork it is possible to install instead of using CSSU.
The fork which would be ported to other devices as well.
It is now possible to use Firefox OS and even Ubuntu Phone on Nexus with modern hardware, but not Maemo.
Some may say - we have mer/Nemo. Yes, we have mer and we have Nemo. But Nemo is not Maemo. Maemo will die without a fork.

marmistrz 2013-01-26 06:08

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by norayr (Post 1317807)
I am probably off topic, but I have to say what I expect from CSSU team most. To prepare a maemo fork. Fully featured Maemo fork.
Maemo cannot survive forever. But Qtmoko can. SHR can.
We will loose it forever if there would be no fork.

The fork it is possible to install instead of using CSSU.
The fork which would be ported to other devices as well.
It is now possible to use Firefox OS and even Ubuntu Phone on Nexus with modern hardware, but not Maemo.
Some may say - we have mer/Nemo. Yes, we have mer and we have Nemo. But Nemo is not Maemo. Maemo will die without a fork.

Maemo has a big problem: Nokia proprietary, closed packages, which are essential! They cannot be recompiled for a new device. If we received the source code....

freemangordon 2013-01-26 08:52

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marmistrz (Post 1317870)
Maemo has a big problem: Nokia proprietary, closed packages, which are essential! They cannot be recompiled for a new device. If we received the source code....

which exactly packages you are thinking of? As my understanding is that besides telephony stack (which has ofono as FOSS replacement) and mce (which we can RE if needed) most of the other stuff could be either replaced or simply ignored.

As I see it, the biggest problem with moving Maemo forward is the lack of HW replacing n900, not the SW side of the things(from Maemo POV). Ofc one must not forget that this imaginary HW should have SW/drivers/bootloader open enough to be replaced by another OS.

artpra 2013-01-31 07:31

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
I`m more and more convinced, that adding "End all" button in task manager will be a good, usable and practical thing.
Like this:

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/8578/pionw.jpg
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/7990/poziomn.jpg

Button should have "hardcoded" red colour of the "x" mark (ignoring themes configurations) to differentiate it from regular "close" button.

droll 2013-01-31 07:38

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
1. smarter alarms - don't ring when it's a public holiday in the calendar
2. better MfE integration (i can't see attendees, those who have accepted / declined, attachments in calendar entries, etc)

int_ua 2013-02-08 00:40

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Can we have an option to select connections sorting?
I'd like my GSM connections above all others all the time. Right now they jump around depending on saved WiFi APs available.

Alecsandru 2013-02-08 03:30

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
maybe an eco mode and a normal one being accessed by the power buton ,that will be usefull

misiak 2013-02-10 11:17

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
Update OpenSSL maybe to include fix for Lucky Thirteen? Accoriding to that web page, versions 1.0.1d, 1.0.0k and 0.9.8y are safe, and version on our devices is 0.9.8n (so we need an upgrade from 0.9.8n -> 0.9.8y, as this one should be, at least in theory, pretty simple and straightforward).

mr_pingu 2013-02-10 11:56

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alecsandru (Post 1321655)
maybe an eco mode and a normal one being accessed by the power buton ,that will be usefull

Search for something called, savepress ;)

freemangordon 2013-02-10 12:56

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by misiak (Post 1322214)
Update OpenSSL maybe to include fix for Lucky Thirteen? Accoriding to that web page, versions 1.0.1d, 1.0.0k and 0.9.8y are safe, and version on our devices is 0.9.8n (so we need an upgrade from 0.9.8n -> 0.9.8y, as this one should be, at least in theory, pretty simple and straightforward).

You'd better file a bug against CSSU

misiak 2013-02-10 14:34

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 1322235)
You'd better file a bug against CSSU

Thank you for your suggestion :) Done, https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12687

marmistrz 2013-02-10 16:28

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by misiak (Post 1322258)
Thank you for your suggestion :) Done, https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12687

And arm yourself with a lot of patience, as some CSSU bug reports stay in bugzilla for a looooong time :)

visN900 2013-03-03 04:09

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
it would be good if N900 could do a face tag of pics before sharing them to Facebook or other social websites.. that's the only feature which image section lacks considering devices of these days..

Il_Principe 2013-03-04 00:03

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My idea is change the default navigator (ovi maps) for address book with other like navit or modrana...

tanago 2013-03-10 17:13

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
I think it's very important to update gstreamer to 0.10.33+ :)

freemangordon 2013-03-10 18:39

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tanago (Post 1328175)
I think it's very important to update gstreamer to 0.10.33+ :)

Is it? Why?

tanago 2013-03-10 19:21

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 1328198)
Is it? Why?

Ok it's not *very* important but the answer *why* has a simple response - "somebody needs it."
Also pixman, cairo, and a few more need update.

marmistrz 2013-03-11 18:10

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
Very important is to update X11 and family (Xau, Xi6, etc.). The couple of versions skipped in Harmattan makes all the newer libXi apps completely incompatible

And much more important is updating tracker!! The one we have in Fremantle is sluggish!!!

hamil_hamster 2013-03-12 01:06

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
If it would be possible I'd like to see those features included:

- command for force status area and/or status menu show up, like power menu does(example :checking time or connection status while fullscreen browsing in portrait mode)
- if above can't or just won't be done then maybe :
- make power menu compatible with status menu aplets
- status area as one of power menu items
- or at least status area in dashboard
- mapping camera key and power key functions by plaintext file, preferably with dedicated files for executing custom command, so it would be easily remapped with simple dbus-scripts (example : on tklock event pwr key is changed into pause/previous , and camera key into play/next in media player, when browser is used in potrait mode those keys as shift and fn would give ability use volume keys for scrolling and home/end or whatever someone defines in his key map)
- ability to map full cam key press event when lenses are covered, without annoying messages

Those changes if applied would make N900 even more customizable and versatile, which would potentially benefit all users.


Also got some ideas that would be useful for me, but not sure if it isn't to niche applications.
- extend BT profiles to make possible to use something like BT-HFP Dialer from meego ivi (there were more than couple threads started by people who wanted to use n900 for answering calls and texting using another mobile cell phone in one way or another).
- ability to use headphones as antenna for FM transceiver? It works in other way around.
- ability to lock orientation in portrait mode
- mouse pointer like one from microb browser, but working in all apps including full screen, preferably with option to control movement and clicks with keyboard, that would be handy for those small scroll bars as alternative to pulling out stylus.

sixwheeledbeast 2013-03-12 12:14

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
Do remember CSSU is for system updates, not things that can be provided by other packages.

marmistrz 2013-03-12 13:28

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
cssu extras - to push packages that would come into extras but need cssu updates

extras thumb - extras-* compiled with thumb2

amr.fayz 2013-03-12 14:45

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marmistrz (Post 1328413)
Very important is to update X11 and family (Xau, Xi6, etc.). The couple of versions skipped in Harmattan makes all the newer libXi apps completely incompatible

And much more important is updating tracker!! The one we have in Fremantle is sluggish!!!


I agreed with marmistrz Please, If estimated

libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.10' +
libx11-6 (>= 2:1.2.99.901)+
libxi6 (>= 2:1.2.99.4)+
pulsecommon-0.9.19 +
libgstreamer0.10-0 (>= 0.10.34)+
libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0 (>= 0.10.34)+
libtimed0 (>= 2.37)+

marmistrz 2013-03-12 15:34

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by amr.fayz (Post 1328560)
I agreed with marmistrz Please, If estimated

libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.10' +
libx11-6 (>= 2:1.2.99.901)+
libxi6 (>= 2:1.2.99.4)+
pulsecommon-0.9.19 +
libgstreamer0.10-0 (>= 0.10.34)+
libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0 (>= 0.10.34)+
libtimed0 (>= 2.37)+

please think a while before posting. timed is Harmattan.

But agree with libc6. It'd be nice.

/edit: well, timed can't be compiled with current libc6

amr.fayz 2013-03-12 15:48

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marmistrz (Post 1328567)
please think a while before posting. timed is Harmattan.

But agree with libc6. It'd be nice.


Thanks marmistrz

Possible to know Why not It To be for Fremantle?

libtimed0 is provided by meecolay librarypacks but not this version libtimed0 (>= 2.37)

marmistrz 2013-03-12 15:56

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by amr.fayz (Post 1328575)
Thanks marmistrz

Possible to know Why not It To be for Fremantle?

libtimed0 is provided by meecolay librarypacks but not this version libtimed0 (>= 2.37)

Current libc6 doesn't provide sys/timerfd.h. In librarypacks there are just binary files taken from Harmattan.

If put timed v9.20 (if it existed) into librarypack, it woudn't be detected anyway. it's how dpkg works

amr.fayz 2013-03-12 16:53

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marmistrz (Post 1328579)
Current libc6 doesn't provide sys/timerfd.h. In librarypacks there are just binary files taken from Harmattan.

If put timed v9.20 (if it existed) into librarypack, it woudn't be detected anyway. it's how dpkg works



Means the reason is libc6 , libc6 It's part of my order to update If libc6 on maemo update to provide sys/timerfd.h in this case libtimed0 (>= 2.37) Will work In Fremantle That's right

marmistrz 2013-03-12 17:15

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by amr.fayz (Post 1328593)
Means the reason is libc6 , libc6 It's part of my order to update If libc6 on maemo update to provide sys/timerfd.h in this case libtimed0 (>= 2.37) Will work In Fremantle That's right

Theoretically, yes. Remember that it has to replace current libc6 and not break anything (or hardly anything)

Alecsandru 2013-03-15 00:57

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
fit to screen in default videoplayer
and maybe portrait mode to media player?

seanmcken 2013-03-15 01:28

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
First Make a Media Player Fastttttt

mauron85 2013-03-15 09:19

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
TV or LCD as big view-finder for camera app.
Camera app will stream live picture over wifi, usb to TV or LCD monitor. You'll see scene on big screen and still can shoot pictures. Very useful when N900 screen is opposite to you. For example you can make comfortably picture of your self.

tanago 2013-03-18 08:19

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
Thank you for pixman libs update, just update 'cairo' and if possible 'gstreamer' and I'll be grateful!

marmistrz 2013-03-18 08:56

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
Maybe just upgrade most libs to upstream (or the current Ubuntu stable versions)

sixwheeledbeast 2013-03-18 12:41

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marmistrz (Post 1329755)
Maybe just upgrade most libs to upstream (or the current Ubuntu stable versions)

It's not that simple, as issues can occur between different versions of packages.
Hence the new-new pixman update.

The latest pixman removes a workaround because it was patched in a later version of x-server but we didn't have that version of x-server.

Fortunately spotted by ssvb and quickly resolved by freemangordon
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=138

Even then you can have issues with later versions
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=140

Anyway CSSU team are working on a few upstream libs to bring there goodies the maemo.

amr.fayz 2013-03-18 13:24

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marmistrz (Post 1328597)
Theoretically, yes. Remember that it has to replace current libc6 and not break anything (or hardly anything)



libc6 Is upgrading By Genius AapoRantalainen

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=89467

marmistrz 2013-03-18 16:02

Re: [NEEDED] Appealing ideas for next CSSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sixwheeledbeast (Post 1329793)
It's not that simple, as issues can occur between different versions of packages.
Hence the new-new pixman update.

The latest pixman removes a workaround because it was patched in a later version of x-server but we didn't have that version of x-server.

Fortunately spotted by ssvb and quickly resolved by freemangordon
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=138

Even then you can have issues with later versions
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=140

Anyway CSSU team are working on a few upstream libs to bring there goodies the maemo.

well, I know this :) but it would be a great benefit to maemo in the long run

plus debhelper 8 or 9


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