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BigBadGuber! 2011-08-24 23:03

Steve Jobs resigns
 
He will stay on as Chairman of the board. I wonder if Tim Cooke is a worthy successor. This is a blow for Apple. I have greatest admiration for Steve Jobs. A true leader!

MINKIN2 2011-08-24 23:14

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I just saw this too.

I bet he still be up on stage for the big launches tho, health permitting that is.

BigBadGuber! 2011-08-24 23:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MINKIN2 (Post 1076088)
I just saw this too.

I bet he still be up on stage for the big launches tho, health permitting that is.

Great presenter. He knows how to hype.

gerbick 2011-08-24 23:25

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In before the fanboys declare Apple dead in the water.

His resignation was inevitable. Now it's up to Apple to continue their singular approach to presentation, sales and product development.

I'm quite sure the next few iterations of the iPhone, iPad, MacBook Pro, et al are already planned out. The true test of Apple's mettle will come probably next summer or so.

Regardless... not a sad day. A man doing his job, taking them from 2.17 Billion in 1997 to 348.75 Billion in 2011 is not bad work.

BigBadGuber! 2011-08-24 23:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1076096)
In before the fanboys declare Apple dead in the water.

His resignation was inevitable. Now it's up to Apple to continue their singular approach to presentation, sales and product development.

I'm quite sure the next few iterations of the iPhone, iPad, MacBook Pro, et al are already planned out. The true test of Apple's mettle will come probably next summer or so.

Regardless... not a sad day. A man doing his job, taking them from 2.17 Billion in 1997 to 348.75 Billion in 2011 is not bad work.


Did you listen to his commencement speech at Stanford? Very moving. He was adopted and dropped out of college due to expense, that his low middle class parents couldn't afford.

Guest 2011-08-24 23:32

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This is quite sad news, but we knew it will eventually happen. All the best for him.

droll 2011-08-24 23:37

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i don't know Tim Cook but in the 30 years since the tech industry went through boom, i have never seen someone else like Jobs. so i would logically conclude that Tim Cook is not a 100% replacement for Jobs, but probably the 2nd best that he could find.

i am also going to wager that as long as Jobs is still around on the board and as apple employee, he will be working very hard to train / mentor Tim to continue building Apple's success.

will it mean the downfall of Apple eventually? in the short term - no. in the long term - yes. but that's just my guess :)

droll 2011-08-24 23:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBadGuber! (Post 1076100)
Did you listen to his commencement speech at Stanford? Very moving. He was adopted and dropped out of college due to expense, that his low middle class parents couldn't afford.

yes, true, but he was also hard working and fortunate to be given the chance to change the tech industry. you never know how many other talented people are out there but will die in anonymity because they never had the right chance...

marxian 2011-08-24 23:46

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I vote for Elop to become the next Apple CEO. :D

Zoxir 2011-08-24 23:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by marxian (Post 1076111)
I vote for Elop to become the next Apple CEO. :D

Me too

He has 2 votes already. Anyone else interested???

All the best fot Jobs thought.

patlak 2011-08-24 23:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by marxian (Post 1076111)
I vote for Elop to become the next Apple CEO. :D

He did more than enough good to Nokia, I wholeheartedly agree with you, Apple needs his help, it's stagnating :(

BigBadGuber! 2011-08-25 01:07

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Make ELOP president of Libya

BigBadGuber! 2011-08-25 01:23

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Not all comments are lauding him :

21.
tarwater
San Francisco Bay Area
August 24th, 2011
7:10 pm
Bye-bye. You did much -- (1) an accessory to the destruction of the best-quality agricultural district in these United States, the Santa Clara Valley, (2) an accessory to the accelerating down-ward spiral of intellectual cognition and competence in the U.S.A. having captured the attention of the populous to focus on "digital media", (3) transferred productive employment from the U.S.A. to other nations, in particular China, at the expense of some measure of the stability of th American unemployed and the nations future. Doing a "good job" has nothing to do with the acquisition of wealth and "power" -- far more to do with tangible betterment of society and attenuating the downward spiral of the human enterprise

quipper8 2011-08-25 01:26

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it's called going out on top. Stylish move Steve, congrats, especially after all you have been through with that company.

So begins the long slow decline of Apple BACK into obscurity.

Ken-Young 2011-08-25 01:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBadGuber! (Post 1076091)
Great presenter. He knows how to hype.

He knows a lot more than that. He's probably the only CEO in the US who is worth as much as he is paid. He makes amazingly good decisions. Apple has never done much fundamental R&D - hardly any of their flagship products are things that really originated at Apple. But they not only build beautiful products, they make good decisions about them. They would not allow AT&T to crap up the iPhone, as the carriers always did on Treos, etc and as they still do with Android. Apple controls the OS upgrades, not the carriers who care nothing about doing it well.

Nokia makes a hundred different types of phones and is failing, Apple makes one model per year and extracts more than 1/2 of the profit from the entire smartphone industry worldwide.

Apple was probably just weeks away from being bought when Jobs returned. Had he not returned, Apple would have the same importance in the market as Compaq does today.

BigBadGuber! 2011-08-25 01:30

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Or this one:

126.
Elextra
San Diego
August 24th, 2011
7:25 pm
I can't see how the creation of all of this selfish technology is something we should necessary be joyous about...all these people crashing their cars, ignoring their children, walking into walls, spending all of their time sharing inane responses in a little device that costs too much money and is made in another country by foreigners...sheesh. But for Jobs himself, I wish him well.

ysss 2011-08-25 01:58

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It's a shame for Apple to 'lose' such a strong leader...

...and I feel for Steve, because he may be doing this due to his mounting health conditions....

...but maybe this isn't such a great place to enshrine him and to keep copy pasting comments from other blogs about him here.

ericsson 2011-08-25 03:06

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This is good for business :)

gerbick 2011-08-25 03:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 1076167)
This is good for business

6% drop in after hours stock trading disagrees with your sophomoric logic.

jo21 2011-08-25 04:29

Re: Steve Jobs resigns
 
now nokia will be sold to microsoft and elop will be hired as apple CEO.

then sold to microsoft.

Texrat 2011-08-25 04:46

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I love this tweet:

"Steve Jobs is NOT stepping down. He meant to write "I reign as Apple CEO," but the auto-correct on his iPhone messed it up."

danramos 2011-08-25 04:48

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"Felt a great disturbance. As if a million Apple-haters cried out, ripped off their clothes and ran around the city high-fiving each other."
--Rikki Simons


Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBadGuber! (Post 1076100)
Did you listen to his commencement speech at Stanford? Very moving. He was adopted and dropped out of college due to expense, that his low middle class parents couldn't afford.

Actually, most of the people I've ever worked with in Silicon Valley had similar backgrounds--maybe not all adopted, but almost everyone was a college drop-out of one sort or another. Even I started college and didn't finish it for exactly the same reason--at the time, I was unable to afford it.. ultimately, my experience has spoken FAR more than an education would have, thankfully, for me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by droll (Post 1076108)
yes, true, but he was also hard working and fortunate to be given the chance to change the tech industry. you never know how many other talented people are out there but will die in anonymity because they never had the right chance...

Amen--thankfully, people like him and even Gates and others who've similarly recognized good talent that never finished college hire people like me and my coworkers. So, if nothing else, they're hiring creative, experienced and talented people in addition to the studious and well-read. I give him lots of credit for that, honestly. It's one of the better parts of the Apple (really, mainly Silicon Valley all-around) culture.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jo21 (Post 1076181)
now nokia will be sold to microsoft and elop will be hired as apple CEO.

then sold to microsoft.

Also, AT&T will buy T-Mobile, thereby giving Microsoft-Nokia one less carrier to deal with. What a brave new future. :/

danramos 2011-08-25 04:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1076096)
In before the fanboys declare Apple dead in the water.

His resignation was inevitable. Now it's up to Apple to continue their singular approach to presentation, sales and product development.

I'm quite sure the next few iterations of the iPhone, iPad, MacBook Pro, et al are already planned out. The true test of Apple's mettle will come probably next summer or so.

Regardless... not a sad day. A man doing his job, taking them from 2.17 Billion in 1997 to 348.75 Billion in 2011 is not bad work.

If the man was ACTUALLY smart, he will have already pre-recorded himself greeting his religious followers and inviting them to enjoy the brand new iPhone/iPad/iProduct that Tim (or whoever the new CEO might be) is about to walk out and announce. He can wish them well and thank them for supporting Apple.

Hell.. record 50 of them so they can keep trotting him out on stage for the NEXT 50 years! ;) Hell.. I'm saying this all tongue-in-cheek but I think it'd be pretty funny, smart AND kinda retro-futuristic all at the same time. heh

daperl 2011-08-25 19:11

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Tim Cook e-mails Apple employees: "Apple is not going to change"

Bummer

mikecomputing 2011-08-25 19:25

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Even if I dislike Jobs, he atleast had a vision for the friuitcompany.

Thats not what I will say about Nokia:s CEO... He seems to be more intrested in his old companys plans...

mikecomputing 2011-08-25 19:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 1076167)
This is good for business :)

Good for who bussiness? Nokia? Microsoft? it would be more nice if someone fire Elop before its too late...

benny1967 2011-08-25 20:32

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Now if only Apple would change. This person was directly responsible for some of the more negative, destructive trends that Apple created; trends that other companies followed as consumers got used to them and they saw they could get away with it. (Even Nokia: forced registration for example.)

Jobs is probably the only leader of a (tech) company I'd call "evil". It needs a certain kind of character to do what he did. (In his business life and in his private life.) The world will be a better place without him. Meanwhile, I'll just open a bottle of champagne because he resigned.

razefox 2011-08-25 20:39

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goodbye apple, hello meego

Hootenholler 2011-08-25 21:12

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It's always so sad when an insanely rich, aging man never has to work again.

gerbick 2011-08-25 21:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 1076693)
Now if only Apple would change. This person was directly responsible for some of the more negative, destructive trends that Apple created; trends that other companies followed as consumers got used to them and they saw they could get away with it. (Even Nokia: forced registration for example.)

Jobs is probably the only leader of a (tech) company I'd call "evil". It needs a certain kind of character to do what he did. (In his business life and in his private life.) The world will be a better place without him. Meanwhile, I'll just open a bottle of champagne because he resigned.

Funny how people call Jobs evil, yet praise Nokia. Bad business decisions don't make you a corporate darling.

Making shrewd business decisions don't make you a public darling.

And I'm going to say this much. Jobs changed how Nokia and a lot of other folks do business. Out with the old, in with the new - he did it his way. One man, 35 years of innovation on his own path basically.

Nokia? They couldn't adapt, their decisions around Maemo created the current situation around MeeGo and now they decided to bring in a man that's been at one company right before they were absorbed by an even bigger company - Macromedia got bought out by Adobe.

Stifling open source, not finding a clearer path, ****ing up the lead they had with the 770 and losing as much share as they have since 2007. If you were a shareholder, I'd call the Nokia board of directors evil, if not just stupid.

gerbick 2011-08-25 21:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootenholler (Post 1076716)
It's always so sad when an insanely rich, aging man never has to work again.

If you invested heavily in Nokia stock, you'd have a small fortune granted you started with a bigger fortune.

Praise amongst geeks for the oddest things like bad business decisions or trying to appease this moving target called "geek cred" is a waste.

I don't applause Apple for herding sheep. I won't applause FOSS failed attempts for attempting to herd cats.

danramos 2011-08-29 08:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by daperl (Post 1076643)
Tim Cook e-mails Apple employees: "Apple is not going to change"

Bummer

He refuses to think differently.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1076724)
Funny how people call Jobs evil, yet praise Nokia. Bad business decisions don't make you a corporate darling.

Making shrewd business decisions don't make you a public darling.

And I'm going to say this much. Jobs changed how Nokia and a lot of other folks do business. Out with the old, in with the new - he did it his way. One man, 35 years of innovation on his own path basically.

Nokia? They couldn't adapt, their decisions around Maemo created the current situation around MeeGo and now they decided to bring in a man that's been at one company right before they were absorbed by an even bigger company - Macromedia got bought out by Adobe.

Stifling open source, not finding a clearer path, ****ing up the lead they had with the 770 and losing as much share as they have since 2007. If you were a shareholder, I'd call the Nokia board of directors evil, if not just stupid.

Everytime I think of Nokia's executives, I picture this scene:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzbhbetwYFU

Substitute "Indians" with "geeks" and the paddles with N9's. :P The Casino deal is the deal with Microsoft and you can probably guess who the Mayor would be at Nokia. ;)

razefox 2011-08-29 17:13

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Steve Jobless

Daneel 2011-08-29 17:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1076724)
Funny how people call Jobs evil, yet praise Nokia. Bad business decisions don't make you a corporate darling.

Making shrewd business decisions don't make you a public darling.

And I'm going to say this much. Jobs changed how Nokia and a lot of other folks do business. Out with the old, in with the new - he did it his way. One man, 35 years of innovation on his own path basically.

Nokia? They couldn't adapt, their decisions around Maemo created the current situation around MeeGo and now they decided to bring in a man that's been at one company right before they were absorbed by an even bigger company - Macromedia got bought out by Adobe.

Stifling open source, not finding a clearer path, ****ing up the lead they had with the 770 and losing as much share as they have since 2007. If you were a shareholder, I'd call the Nokia board of directors evil, if not just stupid.

I didn't see anyone praising Nokia here, so what is your post about again? :)

Benny was spot on. The man singlehandedly changed the industry to a more consumer hostile environment without the consumers knowing about it and even praising him for it while stifling any real attempt for innovation.
That is evil in a James Bond kind of a way. I don't see why i'd have to praise someone who found a really easy,dirty way to make money, drug dealers do that too, you now
.
Alas, only small part of the guilt is his to bare. Humanity has turned in to a lazy, media, consuming slob, the time was right.
If it wasn't jobs it would've been some other clever fella.

mikecomputing 2011-08-29 17:52

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Waiting for Elop to resign and I will not cry...

danramos 2011-08-30 09:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1078548)
Waiting for Elop to resign and I will not cry...

[to Elop:]
Don't laugh with Balmer, you hyena!
The truth is we really abhor you.
From Maemo tablets,
To its phone existence.
You broke Nokia's promise
Of open subsistence.


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