T-Mo Pearl (8100) with N800???
 

Hi all,
I've been interested in getting the N800 for a while now. I currently have a Blackberry 8100 Pearl with T-Mobile in the US. I've tried searching for anyone trying that setup but not much success. Most say its not supported because Blackberry disables DUN. I think it was earlier this year, there was an update for the Pearl that enabled DUN or at least enabled people to use a TomTom GPS with the Pearl and receive data. I was able to update and get my TT910 working with it. I would think if TomTom's proprietary interface can communicate with the Pearl then the N800 should also. Can anyone try it? I'm not sure if the newest update still allows it. Check out www.blackberryforums.com for the latest update. Thanks...

Re: T-Mo Pearl (8100) with N800???
 

Well, I used my pearl as DUN for the N800 once, when I first got the N800 it found the pearl, connected, paired and worked. The only change I had to make was changing the internet2.voicestream.com apn name to wap.voicestream.com (on t-mobile of course...) because the pearl cant access internet2 (at least mine cant) and it worked great, but only ONCE. when I disconnected that connection I never managed to connect to the pearl again. I think I might have gotten it to work for a brief period a second time by hard booting both devices (battery out) but I know it didnt stay connected for long, and when the Pearl (mine anyway) takes about 8 minutes to "reboot" this wasnt a good solution for me. So I gave up and bought a Nokia 6133 for $30.00 US and I use that when I need a cell connection to the internet.

-John

Re: T-Mo Pearl (8100) with N800???
 

Yes, I have this setup. Latest firmware from TMobile doesn't support DUN. However I have installed newer firmware from Rogers (Canada) which seems to have made it to work. There are instructions on where to find this and how to install it on BB forum (http://blackberryforums.pinstack.com). There is even newer firmware then this now, but I haven't tried it. I'm waiting for version that supports A2DP (it's coming).

The first thing I did was tether it to my laptop. I got 155/42 kbps. Once that was working I proceeded with N800. It's really cool to be able to drive around and have Maemo Mapper download maps automatically.

I'll get around and write full instructions on this in the next couple of days.

Re: T-Mo Pearl (8100) with N800???
 

Thats interesting, because I was on the latest firmware from T-Mo and the tethering worked great on everything BUT the N800. well anything that ran the BB Desktop Manager anyway. But like I said, I only got it to tether on the N800 once. I am going to install the Rogers firmware now (got nothing to loose..) and try it again. see what happens. The one question I have is, do you have to tether to a laptop first or can you go straight to the N800 (I didnt bring my laptop with me today, thats why I got the N800 so I could leave it at home <grin>)


-John

Re: T-Mo Pearl (8100) with N800???
 

I'd be really interested to hear about how you got this working. Maybe it's because I have a 770, not an 800, but I upgraded my Pearl's firmware to the newest available from Rogers and I still can't get them to pair. Thanks!

Re: T-Mo Pearl (8100) with N800???
 

I have been seeking answers as all of you have. From what I read the Blackberry Pearl 8100 is locked down. There appears to be attempts to make it work, but I am yet to see full success. I use the IT 770. I have found out, through Cingular rep. that I can take my sim card out of the 8100 and move it to my original phone (Sony Ericsson w600i). All "wap.cingular.com" services would be available and no extra charge. I have the BB Ent plan. The rep said that the unlimited data covers both BB and WAP internet connections. I plan on keeping my old phone that tethered fine to the 770, nearby. This way if the BB does not give me what I need, I can pop out the sim and use my tethered 770. It isn't perfect, but it will work. I need my BB for work mostly. So those days I am stuck in the airport and want to tether, I can do the above and be online with my 770.

Re: T-Mo Pearl (8100) with N800???
 

Hi all,

Well I took the plunge and bought the N800 from amazon.com and with 2 day shipping. It should arrive early next week. My only phone is the Pearl 8100 so I will be working on pairing it the second I open it. From what I remember when I paired it to the TomTom was that it took a couple tries to successfully pair it for data. I think I tried about 5 times and then updated 1 more time completely. I didn't restore or backup that time. It didn't work at first so I rebooted the phone and it worked. I couldn't believe it but it definitely updated the traffic and established the connection. I haven't updated firmware or anything since then.

The Blackberry shows

v4.2.1.94 (Platform 2.3.0.77)

The newest at T-Mobile is 4.2.0.64 and the newest at blackberryforums.com is 4.2.1.164

I think I'm going to wait for the N800 to arrive and try it with the current version. I may upgrade if it goes smoothly. Later....

Blackberry Pearl 8100 works with N800!!
 

IT WORKS!!
I got my Blackberry Pearl to work everytime with the N800.
Well it is with 4.2.1.66 version. Somehow that version enables the connection. I must have upgraded to the next version and since the pairing was already eastablished it kept the same profiles open thru each device. When I paired the N800, it didn't work at first. I upgraded to the latest version and it still didn't work. I downgraded to 4.2.1.66 and it paired and on the first try gave a different error than I got with the other versions. I tried again and it worked. I would think but I'm not sure if I upgrade to the latest and somehow keep the pairing settings it should work.

Make sure you downgrade by uninstalling them in add/remove programs and then use usb to downgrade.

Link to 4.2.1.66

Good luck!! :)

Re: Blackberry Pearl 8100 works with N800!!
 

:eek: I just downgraded to this version and I have also been able to connect/disconnect/re-connect multiple times. This version seems to be the ticket!

Thanks!

-John

Re: T-Mo Pearl (8100) with N800???
 

Rats, I guess this doesn't apply to the 770. I downgraded my Pearl to the same version and I still get the error about there being no services the device can use. It's strange, because Dial Up Networking is listed as a service in the 8100's Bluetooth configuration, and I've set my Nokia 770 to be a trusted device - I even turned encryption on and off on the phone to see if that would help, but no dice.

Re: T-Mo Pearl (8100) with N800???
 

Hey Ryank42,
Sorry to hear its not working with the 770. Just wondering which version of the OS on the 770 are you using? Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm not sure also which version of bluetooth the 770 has. The 800 is 2.0 while the 770 is 1.2 and maybe the Pearl 2.0. It should be backwards compatible but maybe the dial up networking was only updated for the 2.0 profiles. I've never had a 770 but it may also be the OS on the 770. Just some ideas.

Public Notice - N800 - Fido - Perl
 

For Public Record:

I have managed to repeatedly get a data connection through Bluetooth DUN considering the following.

Unlocked Perl 8100 (Cingular Branded)
App Version: 4.2.1.101 (164) A1 firmware

Nokia N800
OS 2007
Version 4.2007.26-8

Fido Blackberry Connect data plan

Connection Type: Packet data
APN: internet.fido.ca
Dial-up number: *99#
User: fido
Pass: fido
No advanced settings altered

I found that I had to initiate the connection from the N800 a few times before it would get working. It fails once or twice, but once it connects everything works flawlessly (perhaps... somewhat slow... )

Re: T-Mo Pearl (8100) with N800???
 

My 8700g (with 4.2 firmware) originally wouldn't work with the N800 too, but I managed to get it to work by setting a custom AT command:

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?p=67801

I will be trying the same with a Cingular Pearl next...

Re: Blackberry Pearl 8100 works with N800!!
 

This is excellent news. I'm going to be picking up a T-Mobile Blackberry Pearl tomorrow. Can anyone confirm that they are still able to tether the N800 using the 4.2.1.66 firmware? Thanks!

Re: T-Mo Pearl (8100) with N800???
 

Man, my patience is wearing thin. I recently picked up a T-Mobile BlackBerry Curve (8320) and tried getting it tethered with my N800 via Bluetooth. Like the poster I quoted, I was able to get it connected ONCE, but only after using these settings I found on another thread:


Anyway, here's what I did:

1. Pair the phone with the N800, making it a trusted device
2. Go to Control Panel > Connectivity > Connections > New
3. Click Next on the Connection Setup Welcome screen
4. Set the connection name you want, and Connetion type: GPRS, click Next
5. Access point name: wap.voicestream.com, Dial-up number: *99***1#, click Next
6. Click Advanced > Other
7. Supplementary AT commands: AT+cgdcont=1,"IP","wap.voicestream.com", click OK
8. You should now be able to click the Connection icon in the status bar and click Change connection... to switch to your new connection


It connected and I was able to surf a web page or two, loaded up the home page and google.com and then stopped responding. After that, all I get is the server error message, which I guess is better than "internet connection failed", but it's still not working either way.

I should note that I tried all the previous settings listed in this thread (and others) and this was the only configuration that worked, even though it only worked once and briefly at that.

Any ideas are appreciated and If anybody gets a T-Mobile Curve let me/us know if you have any luck!

Re: T-Mo Pearl (8100) with N800???
 

Hi, I still use my pearl to tether to the N800 every day. I got a text message the other day about T-Mobile's newest upgrade. I think its the latest version of the OS so it may OR may not work. As for the Blackberry Curve, it may be too new. I can check but if I remember correctly it was OS version 4.1.0.66 for the Pearl that worked. There is a way to downgrade or upgrade any providers (T-Mobile, AT&T and others) with any OS but I think it may be device specific. What OS version do you have for the Curve? I think I'm going to try upgrading to the newest OS again for the Pearl and try if it works. Downgrading's a chore since backing up takes some time. I'll do it though if breaks the tethering ability.
I don't have a Curve to test anything on but I know the Pearl with the older version definitely works. Good luck!

DigitalAce7

Re: T-Mo Pearl (8100) with N800???
 

I tried doing a search and didnt come up with anything. I'm new to this foeum and the IT. I've got a pearl and and n800 that i just bought, when I use DUN it loads a page then disconnects right away with a message "Authentcation Failed try again". I used the instructions a couple posts up. Basically the same as getting DUN working with my powerbook. Should I have somethng in the login password section when setting it up?I didn't have to do that with the powerbook, but that did disconnect after 10 minutes of inactivity. Love the n800 so far, don't have to carry the powerbook everywhere now. Thanks in advance for any responces.