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Re: Post Tizen - MeeGo / Harmattan for N900?

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Originally Posted by geohsia (Post 1098538)

Hi,
I've been trying to search various threads but have not found the answer so I was hoping the gurus here would enlighten us.

With the announcement of Tizen, where does this leave the various community efforts to bring MeeGo / MeeGo-Harmattan CE / HE / ?E to the N900.

My guess is that they're all closed and CSSU is it. I would just appreciate it if someone would just say so explicitly.

Back when the N900 was just out if Nokia just stuck to their guns and held on to Maemo and knocked out Harmattan without the distraction of MeeGo I wonder if we'd be in a different place. I guess we'll never know.

Hi,

Quick comment: We're still alive, kicking and we are just finishing up last touches of the N950 release before we do a formal announcement of the Fall Release.

We have rebased on MeeGo 1.3 Core instead and it brings along immense performance improvements and honestly, it feels very good and useful.

The CE has just moved on to a new steering group form based on meritocracy - and they will decide the direction of CE going forward. The steering group members are:

Jukka Eklund (jukkaeklund), Tom Swindell (alterego), Marko Saukko (Sage), Carsten Munk (Stskeeps), Vesa-Matti Hartikainen (veskuh)

What will this new Tizen news mean in practice? Remember, that when it comes down to everything, most Linux distributions share a same set of packages for basic system software, like bash, glibc, etc. It means that you share the load of work.

The Tizen news makes compliance a hell lot easier. You need to be sure to implement the HTML5 + WAC apis for html5 apps, that's it. Compared to "you shalt have this version of glib".

It's easy to imagine simple Tizen deriatives that uses Qt for it's differentiation. Tizen uses OBS and RPM, too - and has a ARM port based on the effort put into MeeGo.

Initial thoughts, from myself, is simply to run a Tizen deriative that includes Qt and that we can sit the CE UI on top.

Needless to say, we're still active and contributions are coming in. Hope you'll enjoy the Fall release.

P.S. We have a Intel architecture build of the CE image now too.

Re: Post Tizen - MeeGo / Harmattan for N900?

@ stskeeps
thanks for the update. Can you advise if intel is willing to continue support (at least in the short term) for the N900CE team, in the form of bugfixes etc, or should we expect a move to Tizen core after the formal 1.3 release wiht a focus on Qt integration?

support your comments re the latest daily build. much quicker and more responsive all round. thanks for all your (and the entire N900Ce team) hard work.

Re: Post Tizen - MeeGo / Harmattan for N900?

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Originally Posted by onethreealpha (Post 1098874)

Let's see how things go - Intel will probably only focus on Tizen, but keep in mind that it's very likely Tizen shares a -lot- with MeeGo Core.

Re: Post Tizen - MeeGo / Harmattan for N900?

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Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 1098879)

Let's see how things go - Intel will probably only focus on Tizen, but keep in mind that it's very likely Tizen shares a -lot- with MeeGo Core.

So Tizen basically is Meego with gtk/qt stripped out?

Re: Post Tizen - MeeGo / Harmattan for N900?

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Originally Posted by xerxes2 (Post 1098882)

So Tizen basically is Meego with gtk/qt stripped out?

s/stripped out/not required for compliance/g

Re: Post Tizen - MeeGo / Harmattan for N900?

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Originally Posted by geohsia (Post 1098538)

With the announcement of Tizen, where does this leave the various community efforts to bring MeeGo / MeeGo-Harmattan CE / HE / ?E to the N900.

I can't talk for CSSU, but from my perspective, MeeGo CE is not closed. How exactly we'll continue work is still a bit up in the air, but it will happen, as there's a lot of determined individuals and invested companies in keeping MeeGo ticking over.

See: http://blog.rburchell.com/2011/09/be...en-source.html for some links to some of the discussions ongoing, and "watch this space" as it says.

Re: Post Tizen - MeeGo / Harmattan for N900?

I can't talk for Meego CE but one can check commits and merge requests here and draw his/her conclusions whether CSSU is closed

Re: Post Tizen - MeeGo / Harmattan for N900?

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Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 1098903)

s/stripped out/not required for compliance/g

Well, that's part of it. Will they be in the core repo, or (assuming compliance policy equivalent or more braindead than meego's) will every Qt/GTK+ app have to bundle the entire stack along with it?

Re: Post Tizen - MeeGo / Harmattan for N900?

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Originally Posted by lma (Post 1099520)

Well, that's part of it. Will they be in the core repo, or (assuming compliance policy equivalent or more braindead than meego's) will every Qt/GTK+ app have to bundle the entire stack along with it?

No exact clue. The important thing is that it's not banned. The app story is HTML5.

What I personally care about is the core stack

Re: Post Tizen - MeeGo / Harmattan for N900?

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Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 1098744)

Hi,

Quick comment: We're still alive, kicking and we are just finishing up last touches of the N950 release before we do a formal announcement of the Fall Release. ...

@Stskeeps - Thanks for the update. It's good to see the progress you continue to make. When might there be a version of MeeGo that is usable on a daily basis. Would that run N9 apps without modification?

I'm just trying to nail down what is there for the N900 coming in the future besides CSSU updates. Thanks.