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Mahaloha 2007-08-08 12:26

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocketman (Post 66503)
Try going to escapepod.org with flash enabled and then scrolling down the page once loaded so that a flash object scrolls onto the screen. Browser instantly disappears, leaving only a "Internal error. Application 'Web' closed." error. That site exhibits that behavious 100% of the time with flash enabled and 0% when disabled.

Tried going to the site and it loads without any problem. Tried scrolling with while a flash object is playing and no browser crash.

zerojay 2007-08-08 12:48

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
I did the same thing as well, but I noticed that it was when I had flash disabled by default and then enabled it on the page. Otherwise, it's a 100% reproducable crash over here.

rcadden 2007-08-08 13:44

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
I'm also not able to install the update.

**Edit** appears as though I had deleted the repos. along the way. Woops. Updated and running, though not seeing much of a difference.

iball 2007-08-08 14:28

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zerojay (Post 66519)
It doesn't. It just so happens that an update for libpcap was pushed.

Then why was the broken micro-b update REQUIRING it?

Just upgraded now...

EDIT: And it looks like they haven't fixed anything?

Keyboard STILL pops up when trying to scroll using microb and the keyboard still won't stay up when you actually need it.
I think this was more just a lib update/refresh than anything else.
Not even a changelog posted on the microb website, much less any other news about the update directly from the devs themselves in here.

zerojay 2007-08-08 14:35

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iball (Post 66589)
Then why was the broken micro-b update REQUIRING it?

You answered your own question. It's entirely possible that they use it for debugging purposes.

iball 2007-08-08 14:39

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zerojay (Post 66593)
You answered your own question. It's entirely possible that they use it for debugging purposes.

Odd. I've never heard of debugging a web browser via packet capture before, a webserver yes but a browser no.
I'm going to chalk the whole thing up to a fat-finger mistake.

wiltonman 2007-08-08 16:17

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
i'm seeing how to bring up "set engine" to switch between the 2 browsers...."hidden=true"....BUT not the first step to find .browser file....doing a search of files on my N800 yields no results...thanks in advance for anyone who can make it clear.

zerojay 2007-08-08 16:47

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
I believe that's been posted several times in this thread already.

Toontje 2007-08-08 17:25

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Cannot download the update. My Application Manager log tells me:

Failed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/extras/p...-12_armel.deb: Error reading from server. Remote end closed connection.

Should i just keep trying??

iball 2007-08-08 18:48

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Toontje (Post 66664)
Cannot download the update. My Application Manager log tells me:

Failed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/extras/p...-12_armel.deb: Error reading from server. Remote end closed connection.

Should i just keep trying??

I've had that EXACT same error before, only with a different .deb file, but now it's working fine.
Seems something is wrong on the server end with that repository for a few people?
I think there was a hack/fix for that, but I can't remember what it was...search aorund in here.

As far as the mssing keyboard goes, looks like they finally got around to showing that bug to an "engineer" with a hope for a fix "tomorrow".
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1682

zerojay 2007-08-08 19:03

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
They fixed bugs #1696, #1706, #1707 and #1720.

Milhouse 2007-08-08 19:11

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zerojay (Post 66719)
They fixed bugs #1696, #1706, #1707 and #1720.

Browser bugs? Actually fixed?! What is this, some kind of voodoo?!

:D

rcadden 2007-08-08 19:32

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Lol. Oh, they fixed THOSE bugs. Great, thanks!

Any chance we could get a link or explanation as to what those bugs might be, and what other (major) bugs are left crawling around?

zerojay 2007-08-08 19:33

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rcadden (Post 66740)
Lol. Oh, they fixed THOSE bugs. Great, thanks!

Any chance we could get a link or explanation as to what those bugs might be, and what other (major) bugs are left crawling around?

Bugzilla is your friend.

Milhouse 2007-08-08 19:46

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
https://bugs.maemo.org/

Toontje 2007-08-08 19:57

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iball (Post 66706)
I think there was a hack/fix for that, but I can't remember what it was...search aorund in here. ]

Well, i did a search but didn't find anything. If you remember what you did to fix it, please post it here.

Edit: I disabled all the repositories except the Nokia ones and the Maemo Extras where MicroBR needs to come from.
Installed without any problems.
I still don't understand the error message though...

Ton.

basco 2007-08-08 21:11

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
They said they fixed the backspace bug which is a plus. I haven't tested that yet. But it seems to be more stable and hasn't crashed yet.

iball 2007-08-09 06:53

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Looks like the "engineer" is on the case with the soft-keyboard popup bug:

Quote:

well, at least it's something. i can confirm that behavior. we'll see if it
actually helps

browser_toolbar_set_common_view
hildon_gtk_im_context_hide(...);

browser_toolbar_hide
hildon_gtk_im_context_hide(...);

on my quest, browser_toolbar_grab_focus_handler seems to be unreachable code
(commented out). browser_controller_hide_all is also unused.

engine_load_progress
if ((!self->toolbar->_is_vkb) || (!GTK_IS_EDITABLE(focus_widget)))

seems fairly suspicious, i wonder if that should be &&.

but, i think the problem is:
engine_window_focused
browser_toolbar_set_common_view(self->toolbar, FALSE);
browser_toolbar_hide(self->toolbar);

so first it tries not hiding it, and then it basically unconditionally hides
it.

Anyway, these are just ramblings of a sleepless engineer. And yes, I know the
sources aren't reachable in svn. I'm sorry, we're working on it.
Bug #1682

UPDATE: They are also working on bug #1672, the mysterious keyboard-popping-up-when-scrolling-if-there-is-a-text-entry-block-on-the-web-page bug.
Looks like another microb update may be pushed out on Friday to address those two bugs.

zerojay 2007-08-09 12:17

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iball (Post 66928)
Looks like another microb update may be pushed out on Friday to address those two bugs.

Where did you get this info from?

steve63 2007-08-09 12:20

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Toontje (Post 66664)
Cannot download the update. My Application Manager log tells me:

Failed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/extras/p...-12_armel.deb: Error reading from server. Remote end closed connection.

Should i just keep trying??

Before I can download the new browser I need to upgrade to the latest N800 OS but I'm getting the message "No application to open it with"

Anyone help?

Thanks
Steve

zerojay 2007-08-09 12:47

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocketman (Post 66503)
Try going to escapepod.org with flash enabled and then scrolling down the page once loaded so that a flash object scrolls onto the screen. Browser instantly disappears, leaving only a "Internal error. Application 'Web' closed." error. That site exhibits that behavious 100% of the time with flash enabled and 0% when disabled.

I've noticed you talking with timeless about this bug on IRC a little while ago. I wanted to tell you that I did NOT restore a backup after reflashing.

iball 2007-08-09 12:51

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zerojay (Post 66990)
Where did you get this info from?

My bad, I wasn't reading the actual DATE on the comment in the bug (19 JUL 07).
Boy, don't I feel like a dumbass now. ;)
So...looks like there WON'T be an update this Friday.
But with those two being two of the more noticeable bugs, I hope they push one out soon with them squashed.
You have to admit though, this type of open beta testing is helping them find bugs a hell of a lot faster than internal testing usually does.

tfinnan 2007-08-09 13:55

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
I should have probably checked this before I installed it, but does anyone know what the improvements are included in the update to the Mozilla browser? I have seen it in my update manager for a few days now, but today it finally installed. I don't see any real changes in the UI, but maybe there is something that I have missed? Any input would be appreciated.

zerojay 2007-08-09 14:16

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tfinnan (Post 67014)
I should have probably checked this before I installed it, but does anyone know what the improvements are included in the update to the Mozilla browser? I have seen it in my update manager for a few days now, but today it finally installed. I don't see any real changes in the UI, but maybe there is something that I have missed? Any input would be appreciated.

Go back a page or two where I list the bugs that were fixed.

Milhouse 2007-08-10 13:13

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Detailed changelog for the recent update here. :)

iball 2007-08-10 13:45

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Woo-hoo, they fixed my bugs.

Texrat 2007-08-10 16:35

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
I don't see mine addressed (having to click inside text boxes twice to get virtual keyboard to come up). Ah well. It's still beta! And I'm glad anyway to see updates. :)

mwiktowy 2007-08-10 16:41

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by basco (Post 66798)
They said they fixed the backspace bug which is a plus. I haven't tested that yet. But it seems to be more stable and hasn't crashed yet.

I can confirm that this bug is fixed (at least for GMail). I am pretty happy with this update's performance too. It works really well so far.

I am also happy that the first beta release wasn't the only one. Nokia seems to be finally "getting it" with respect to open source development and the "release early, release often" methodology.

Kudos to the MicroB and RTComm (since they had another beta release that improved things a lot too) teams!

basco 2007-08-10 16:57

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Yea, it a good fix. It did crash once, I dont know why I think it was zooming in but the fix list shows that it was fixed so it could be something else. But crashing once in a few days is acceptable to me compared to what it was doing.

mobiledivide 2007-08-10 17:39

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Definitely seems to be operating better, I have been using the MicroB browser exclusively (instead of Opera and switching engines) and I think this is really good. Only had one crash since the update compared to a crash every browsing session before.

jmk 2007-08-10 17:49

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Ari Jaaksi says: "The Mozilla-based browser sometimes seems slower than Opera, but it is actually processing all of the AJAX that Opera just throws away." (http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9264384554.html)

Is that AJAX claim true? In general Microdb is still much slower than Opera. I hope they don't drop support for Opera.

And that is annoying when you zoom in Microdb page view jumps to top of the page.

zerojay 2007-08-10 19:42

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Yes, it processes AJAX, however I think it's still slightly on the slow side because it's still in beta. I wouldn't be surprised if they do drop Opera completely (which is the whole point of Microb - to replace it). Having an open source browser that's up to date is far better than having a browser from 2005 (Opera 8.5) that can't handle a lot of stuff that today's internet needs.

romaxa 2007-08-10 23:19

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmk (Post 61342)

I still want Opera 9.

Do you really think what Opera 9 is much faster than MicroB? ;)
try to compare Opera 9 and Opera 8.5 on desktop...

romaxa 2007-08-10 23:40

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Thanks to all for feedback, bug reports, comments... ;)

Very soon I will made MicroB working on 770 distribution... (small part already available on gregale-extras microb-engine,microb-refui, libgtkmozembed)....

Also later I will try to organize place about tweaking MicroB ;).
Ex: How to enable back gmail chats e.t.c ...

popeye 2007-08-14 02:55

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Trying to find out if this works on the 770? Anyone know? Appreciated.

Milhouse 2007-08-14 03:28

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
The clue is in the title of the thread. :)

Maybe it will become available for the 770 when (if) a new version of OS 2007HE is released.

rcadden 2007-08-14 03:56

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Mine was just updated again today.

popeye 2007-08-14 04:46

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 68294)
The clue is in the title of the thread. :)

Maybe it will become available for the 770 when (if) a new version of OS 2007HE is released.

Appreciate the reply and answer! Thanks. Where can I find out about this new OS for the 770? Again, thanks.

Milhouse 2007-08-14 11:50

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by popeye (Post 68313)
Appreciate the reply and answer! Thanks. Where can I find out about this new OS for the 770? Again, thanks.

There are a couple of threads in this forum discussing OS 2007HE (aka OS 2007 on 770).

mwiktowy 2007-08-14 12:45

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mwiktowy (Post 67445)
I can confirm that this bug is fixed (at least for GMail).

The "backspace = history back" bug has returned in yesterday's microb update :[


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