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panjgoori 2011-10-10 17:17
Re: [WP7] Look what Nokia had stashed under their bed
 
WP Mango multi tasking is not at its top. you can run 6 apps at the time and when the list increases older application will be removed from list and you have to start it manually as reported in gsmarena review. and i dont think it is a good thing.

PMaff 2011-10-10 17:52
Re: [WP7] Look what Nokia had stashed under their bed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by niche (Post 1101274)
We've been sitting ducks as well, there are just too many closed bits within fremantle. The propagated freedom has always been an illusion, Morpheus. Ask qwerty.

With Mango, M$ already proved that they are listening to its users.
You are joking, are you?

See that article:
"Mango’s multitasking uncovered and hands on!
...
You’ll be able to have up to 5 apps open and “multitasking”, and once you open a new application, the last app will be bumped off your multitasking list."
http://wmpoweruser.com/mango-multitasking-discovered/


That's not multitasking, that's a bad joke.
If MS listened to the users, the users probably did not dare to demand more.

I very often have more than 5 programs opened which continue
in the background and my N900 does only slow down
depending on which programs run.

I always wondered why people are satisfied with such a nothingness but somehow I get used to it from all the Windows users around me. :-/


Quote:
Originally Posted by niche (Post 1101274)
If that's not enough, there is always XDA. When did Nokia as an OS Provider ever listen to us?

Granted, Nokia did many things right in the first place, so listening to the userbase would have created warm feelings, but was not really top priority.

There is no need to mourn the death of the "truely open phone"-paradigm, because it just never existed.
But at least Nokia made a real OS on the N900 which does not
fade out after 5 "apps" and talks about "multitasking".
It is important that I can decide how many programs are running and if my N900 slows down it is _my_ fault and not the fault of such
a Mango-bullsh.. .

I always demand more.
MS failed to deliver constantly and I am getting angry when I see how MS gets away with that.

(Nokia failed also, but at least I can decide whether to do real multitasking.)

PMaff 2011-10-10 17:59
Re: [WP7] Look what Nokia had stashed under their bed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1101283)
ppl are tired of having that kind of crap on their computers, they are not going to fall for it any more
You and I may demand real stuff.

But there are some people out there who do not know better.

They used MS crap for decades now.
They do not wonder why their machine is slow(Edit: well they started wondering with Vista).
They do not wonder why MS talks about "multitasking" when the
6th program is kicked of some "multitasking list".

Grrrr...I am really getting angry about that. :mad:

Quote:
Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1101283)
certainly not if they have (better) free alternatives. well, one, @ least...
thus the patent war, buying of Motorola mobile et cetera et cetera et cetera...

PLUS: when is the last time you paid for an app you installed on your N900?
If a program (I refuse to babble about "apps") is good, I really
like to pay/donate/whatever.

PMaff 2011-10-10 18:03
Re: [WP7] Look what Nokia had stashed under their bed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1101313)
how much is the fruit company (... you know who i'm talking about, right?) paying for the port?
and still, the user has to pay on top of that ¦-)))))))

200% sure, it's not, repeat not, available on Linux/GNU...
how comes?
Because there would be the possibilty (depending on license) that someone may want sources.
And if you look at these sources then: :eek:

PMaff 2011-10-10 18:06
Re: [WP7] Look what Nokia had stashed under their bed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1101349)
Former MCSE/MCDBA - can't say I'm a Windows lover, but I'm a frequent Windows user and hell... they paid the bills for over a decade.
Wuaaah.
Working for MS would make me vomit all day.
Unless they pay 100k bucks.
Per day. ;-)

PMaff 2011-10-10 18:17
Re: [WP7] Look what Nokia had stashed under their bed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1101408)
Formerly certified. Only thing I'm certified now would be insanity. Especially since I'm still answering you.



Because Microsoft still reigns supreme in regards to user share.
"Millions of flies cannot err." is still no argument ;-)

Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1101408)
What do you expect to be installed? I'm not sure what you're leading to with your framed question; so let's just say this.
You are right: people don't know better.

Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1101408)
Microsoft Office is a certifiable bread winner for Microsoft. Cannot get any plainer and simpler than that.

I have no clue what in the **** you are talking about.
He is talking about pure pain.
The pain to use MS.
The pain to see others using MS everyday and complaining. ;-)


Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1101408)
7% in Germany... somehow. But yeah. Again, what's your point? State it clearly, state it concisely.
He did.
I was able to understand his issue clearly. :D


Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1101408)
Oh, and for the records... Microsoft Office does not equate to Nokia N9 no matter how twisted you somehow confuse the two.
Nobody was talking about that.
Bait and switch - well known from the old usenet days. ;-)

Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1101408)
One does not lead to the other. And Microsoft Office does not lead to WP7 sales either - Microsoft Office licenses went up actually. Can't say the same for WP7. Not at all.
So back to "multitasking" and WP7.

PMaff 2011-10-10 18:29
Re: [WP7] Look what Nokia had stashed under their bed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by niche (Post 1106279)
This is exactly what i like Microsoft for.. :)

Screw all the shiny lifestyle phantasms - It's all about machines and tools in order to get some work done.
I deny that the last four words are true for MS programs (maybe except the notepad). :D

misterc 2011-10-24 19:59
Re: [WP7] Look what Nokia had stashed under their bed
 
found a somewhat more objective annalysis of the m$ NOKIA partnership as well as fresher (?) newsabout phones (one top of the line (N9 like?) and a popular model)...
Crucial Test for Nokia as Latest Smartphones Arrive - NYTimes.com

misterc 2011-11-08 17:41
Re: [WP7] Look what Nokia had stashed under their bed
 
Nokia Lumia 800 and N9 [...] (ZDNet)
Quote:
[...]
Here is why the N9 is for me

After using the Lumia 800 for a day, I am happy to say that it makes my Nokia N9 purchase even more valid and justifiable. Here is why I personally prefer the N9 over the Lumia 800 for use in the U.S. on T-Mobile:

* 3G data on T-Mobile, AT&T, and around the world (a true Nokia world phone)
* Double tap to turn on display without needing to ever press the on/off button
* Multi-tasking beast where I have had over 27 apps running at once with a slick display to switch between them
* Time shown on black screen when locked (sometimes the simple things mean a lot)
* Awesome swipe to go to a notification (starting to get bothered by no real meaningful notifications in Windows Phone)
* Integrated services and ability to interact with them (WP has many of these too, but MeeGo still does it better)
* Swype keyboard is coming soon, along with other great updates not delayed by carriers
* Being part of a very enthusiastic community of a device that the community refuses to let die out
different day same old m@de$h!t ¦-)

misterc 2011-11-08 20:52
Re: [WP7] Look what Nokia had stashed under their bed
 
even more in line with what we m$ detractors have been pointing to...
What does the future hold for Microsoft’s business model?
Quote:
[...]
The late offering led analysts to predict Windows Phone 7 will fail to increase Microsoft's share in the smartphone market, with Nokia's Symbian and Google's Android OS dominating the worldwide mobile OS market by 2014, according to Gartner.

The research firm forecasts that open source platforms will dominate, accounting for over 60% of the market for smartphones in 2010, with Android becoming the top OS in the US by the end of 2011. Gartner ranks Windows Phone behind Symbian, Android, Apple's iOS, RIM's Blackberry and Linux-based MeeGo in its 2014 OS ranking forecast - a drop from fifth place in 2010.

"The market is consolidating around three or four platforms - and Microsoft is not one of those," says Gartner analyst Roberta Cozza.
[...]
Totgesagte leben länger as the saying goes... ¦-)
however that may turn out to be, even MeeGo ending up before m$ :D
who knows how many N9s or N9x0s we will still see :)


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