Re: Nokia N9 Screen Troubles (someone help me out confirm this)
 

I posted it a while back but because im using phone it just say it again. Its how the screen is. The panel problem. When they make an amoled screen. There is a TFT silicon backplate. Which is supposed to carry the current to the pixels turning them on and off etc... While creating the matrix a laser is used to change the silicon. Because the laser does not heat equally (middle heat different from outside of the laser heat) the crystals in the TFT dont form equally so an equal current does not pass to all pixels. The effect is called mura. Sadly it's a feature of amoled screens. The technology has not been perfected yet like LCD. Some have it worse and others don't.

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I had this "pinkish stripes/lines in landscape" issue on my blue N9 ( several photos in this thread from other users). One day after purchase got new phone and same issue. My friend has white 64gb and no pink stripes. So sent today phone for repair, I guess they gonna change screen or something...

Edit: Picture from few pages back, I had this, my friend didn't have->

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Wow, thanks for posting!

Can you tell me what capacity is your N9 (16/64Gb) and where is is made? And what about your friend's white N9?

My black 64Gb N9 Made in Finland has same stripes and also black spots in the dark. Don't know if I shall bother to try to get a replacement or all N9 AMOLEDs that way. :(

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That pings stripes picture comes with trickery used by that blackandwhite squares, if same phone browses normal web pages there is no bleeding effect. Someone is screwing the system if they send device to nokia care because of abusing testing pattern picture that amoled screens doesnt like.

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I didn't use myself that trickery, that picture is just for making clear point what I had without that pattern picture. Those stripes are most noticeable on that homepage/bookmark page in browser.

I had 16gb cyan and box says made in Finland. Not sure yet about my friend's.

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Here's another picture of the same phone showing a "normal" webpage with the same pink stripes. (since when is it normal for a screen to be unable to display a simple checkerboard pattern...)

http://zerion7.pp.fi/n9/bleeding-2.png

The problem is even worse when you scroll a page, as the lines kind of shimmer.

Every N9 I've seen has this problem, although the intensity does vary some. As such, I've not taken mine for repair. (also I have no black spots, so I'm a little worried I might get a screen with that problem in return) Though all the N9s I've seen have been early made in Finland ones so perhaps the problem's been fixed in newer ones?

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ohwell apparantly you can get bleeding effect on some devices more easily than others. With testing pattern I can see bleeding in my too, but not in normal use. Of course if you see it on normal use and it irritates you too much then might be wise to try to get it replaced.

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Well, not too cool: I have both black spots - most irritating in the GOF2 game - and I have AMOLED bleading - most annoying when typing SMS in portrait mode, the screen shows green, pink and dirty white stipes upwards of the on-screen keyboard.

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ITs a feature of amoled.. AMOLED TECH is not ready yet eg, not too many companies are investing, sony cut back, and LG is focusing on large applications of oled for tvs and stuff, so that leaves samsung and Au-Optronics .there is not too much competition so, innovation is show.

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Got my phone back from repair after week, they changed the screen/panel aaaand...No, issue is still there. I'm gonna tomorrow visit maybe more proper and official care place.

Made a video, my friend's N9 and mine. Man, my N9's screen looks total crap vs friend's...

http://youtu.be/aXLQIHkWeOY

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Got my N9 back from repair. They changed the screen/panel and... No, the stripes issue is still there. Visited today different, maybe more proper care point, tho previous was official too...

Made a video, my N9 screen vs friend's. Man, my screen looks totally garbage. So much darker and those stripes, geez...

Search youtube, first video: Nokia N9 screen bleeding issue

Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXLQIHkWeOY

ps. Wrote again this message, previous one is being reviewed by admins, maybe because youtube link, dunno... that was a day ago.

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Just picked up my N9 this week. I'm using it as a stop gap till I decide on either WP8 or iPhone5 later in the year.

First impressions are positive, but my biggest problem is that screen! Next to my iPhone 4, websites looks awful. There's a weird discolouration to everything, most noticeable on predominantly white backgrounds. It's greenish tinge. The iPhone looks like a piece of crisp white paper. The N9 makes it look like a yellowed old newspaper! Even before I put the two side by side, I noticed the screen when web browsing wasn't reproducing colours accurately.

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I have those too, but they are only evident during the startup video sequence. I am pretty sure you captured that during the startup sequence. Since it's a video, I don't expect it to be free from artifacts or blocky pixels.

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Kudos to you. I completely agree. Some people are just really making a big deal out of it. The average human eye won't even be able to tell the difference if it's pentile or not. The only people who keep complaining about it are the ones who hold their phones 5cm away from their eyes and claim to be display tech experts, and it's annoying that this has become a "problem" people can't get over about.

For the record, I am no expert when it comes to display technology, but ever since I got my N9, NOBODY (and I really mean NOBODY) has ever told me the N9 has an ugly screen. On the contrary, it has been all praises and "oohs and ahhhhs", and to think my friends all use iPhones and Galaxy S IIs. I don't necessarily brag about it, but to be honest, the N9's screen is definitely one of the best out there, especially when you factor in the phone's unparalleled design and construction.

Get over this pentile BS. Nothing you do will make the screen better, so instead of complaining or saying it's a "problem", get a new phone and ask yourself why did I buy an N9 in the first place? :p

Peace.

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Not the ones I know of...
I've 4 of them, all colors, all M/I Finland, and have gotten many of my friends sw-over to N9s... No one has it. In fact, none of our N9s have any problem at all (as has been reported by many on this forum).

We, probably, r a lucky few!

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You mean like this... The actual Start Up sequence is Pixelated, Not sure why, if this was done by design. you must look to see it.

(Start-up screen has about 103 frames and a size of about 1.7 MB*)

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Wow! Mine didn't have this. The opening screen was a smooth beauty (except for dark spots).

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dark spots will be visible on the multitask screen when nothing is open and you look at it on the darkroom.

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luckily, my n9 doesn't seem to have the black thingy :)

i set my n9's brightness to lowest, then tested camera app in a dark room, and even watched a movie with dark scenes, yet still, no black thingies were sited. yey. :D

i also dont have the purple and green lines unless of course the screen is like 5inches from my eyes...

i think they're normal since the screen of n9 is AMOLED... the pixels are arrange in a rgbg pattern.. and because of that, color display is not as vivid and as crisp compared to the lcd and superamoled+.. so it's normal that white will appear a bit dirty.

if your n9 has those black thingies, you can return them to nokia stores and they'll glady replace or repair it since it's a factory defect.

they're like the air blobs in the screen protectors, but only visible when it's dark. maybe they're the results of a faulty "gluing" method during the process of making the amoled screens.

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Well, I've only seen three N9s besides my own, so it's possible I've just been unlucky too.

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my new n9 has the dark spots as well. did some research over at XDA and the lumia 900 has it worse, lots of samsungs have it, etc. mine are really small so its not a HUGE problem

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I don't know if anyone has put this forward yet, and if so i'm sorry.

But, i'm quite confident that those black things you are referring to, are air bubbles trapped between the leds and the glass.

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So... In the messaging app, it is natural that my N9 is a bit yellowish instead of white?

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Oh, and a question for anyone with an n950, do you have these issues?

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I had a Lumia 800 (gave it back because I cannot do anything with it), it had exactly the same problems, only not that visible. Lumia-users most likely wouldn't notice unless they start looking for the stripes. So it's not even N9-specific.

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Entirely different screen tech, still subjective as to whether it's "better", depends on use case.
There's been peeps who've weighed-in who own both, & it varies between them...

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Yes, on low brightness. No, in screen is max bright. But in general this screen technology isn't notorious for accurate color reproduction.
As long as you don't have severe purple stripes you are fine. :)

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Do you know if I could ask a RMA for the screen on the right ?

http://data.imagup.com/12/1156528327.jpg
The one on the left, colours are fine, but the screen gets scratches, on the left screen doesn't seem to get scratches but is damm green at low light... :/

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I've noticed the purple line on the left side, and purplish tint on the screen's top-left, while holding the N9 in portrait. Barely notice the green line at the right, though.

I think it can be avoided by some clever software tricks, if you swipe up an app and view it in the task switcher, the purple line's still there. Some research on this should be in order - the screen has absolutely fantastic blacks but pales in comparison to my N900's screen in almost every other category.

BTW, the issue is really noticeable in the low-power clock mode. It seemed like artifacting to me at first, but upon closer inspection, it looks like a problem arising from the way Pentile does colors (also, you can visually see the Pentile matrix, which slightly disturbs me when looking at bright pages)

Too bad it's a Pentile display without the high PPI that usually comes with it.

The one on the right is definitely way too bright. You should be able to get an RMA for it.

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Well 10mth+ later I FINALLY got in touch with the guy, he may not even work there now for all I know.
God knows how I managed to totally forget about this :rolleyes: Sorry people... :(
I've asked that he take some time to peruse the entire thread & answer all unique questions/concerns.
Fingers crossed... Prepared to be disappointed ofc, that is Nokia + F/OSS after all.

*update* 31/10/12 AustEST
I heard from him briefly a few days later, I asked if he could provide more comprehensive feedback in the thread.
I still haven't had a response to that yet, I will chase him up again soon...

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Does anyone have these lines?
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11485739/_MG_4908.jpg

They can be seen only on white background, and appear only when phone is cold... :rolleyes:
If I have the phone in my pocket, and take it out on cold weather, after a minute or so, the lines appear. The colder the weather, more/darker lines you have.

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I have this problem too :(

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I just noticed these for the first time. Mine doesn't seem to be cold related, though. Any guess on pther possible causes?

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Yes, it's actually covered well throughout this thread, well worth a read from beginning to end.

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I'm sorry. I read through a large chunk of it and only saw mention of the black "blobs", I'll give it a read.

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I noticed the same effect on white background webpages (through the browser)...older phones had contact issues when these effects appeared.

I wonder if that is the case?

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So this was the full email correspondence, after almost 7wks I'm done nudging the guy.
He's pretty much been totally ignoring me since my last response to him below, classy.

On 19/10/12 7:18 PM, yyyyyy wrote:
> Thanks mate!
>
> I don't suppose you could go through the thread & try to address each
> unique point there?
> It would clear up MANY misconceptions....
> Anything that's "theoretically" fixable we (of course) won't expect at
> this late stage.
> But it'd still be great to know what's inherently flawed, & what's fixable.
> No rush, you could take as long as you needed...
>
>
> On 19/10/12 7:05 PM, xxxxxx wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> For black spot issue I have some answer. It is common OLED "feature".
>> You can find it in most (all if enough samples?) OLED panels. For
>> example I have seen it in Samsung Galaxy S2.
>>
>> Actually black spot area has "perfect" black. Other areas has some
>> very small leakage of current to OLED element producing very dim
>> light. Level is so low that you need to have extremely sensitive light
>> meter to see that difference. Contrast ratio in "normal" very dark
>> gray area is typically higher than 1:20 000. In black spot area you
>> can't measure it reliably. Eye is very sensitive after you have been
>> in dark about 15 minutes for adaptation of darkness. "Issue" is that
>> you can clearly see the difference of 1:20k and 1:10M contrast black
>> level.
>>
>> Pa. My gmail address is
>>>
>>>
>>> ----Original Message-----
>>> From:
>>> Sent: 19. lokakuuta 2012 09:58
>>> To:
>>> Subject: N9 display issues
>>>
>>> Hi xxxxx,
>>>
>>> I was referred to you many months ago by Konttori (he says "Hi!"),
>>> somehow this To Do got lost amongst all my other To Do's.
>>> I was supposed to email you about 10-months ago now!!! :-/ I was
>>> wondering if you could spend some time perusing this entire thread &
>>> addressing all the unique Qns/concerns raised?
>>> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=78488
>>>
>>> Some of the questions/concerns are purely to do with the nature of
>>> PenTile displays, but not all of them.
>>> Some are due to the model/revision of PenTile CBD AMOLED panel used, &
>>> some may even be purely software-related.
>>> It would create a great deal of goodwill toward Nokia if you could
>>> help with this (at least to Pg 21)...
>>> There's still much angst toward it in the Maemo/MeeGo/Meltemi/Qt
>>> community, given the way it's been treated in the past 20mth.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your time & all the best,

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jalyst,

Thanks for the effort in pursuing said person!

Just to check did you contact him via the gmail address he gave you?

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After awhile, I think we all just forgotten about the screen issue especially when Nokia showed lukewarm response to our queries, even the green tint issue raised by my original thread has gone "swept under the carpet" http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81217 I guess we just had to live with it

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I used a Nokia internal address, at the same time I guessed what his GMail address might be & cc'd it.
He got my email via his Nokia address, noticed that the Gmail address I used was wrong, & so he told me his correct GMail address.
From that point onwards I used his Nokia internal address & cc'd his (correct) GMail address...