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I read this on CNN its from a Chinese site


"Jobs is the spiritual leader of our time," wrote @Xiongpeiyun on Sina Weibo. "I like Steve Jobs more than I like Apple. It's a huge loss for the whole world. But his life was complete because he had been looking for and found what he loved. I haven't committed whole heartedly to my life like Jobs had been doing. So, next to him, I feel more ashamed than being sad."


This is how I feel, that as a business owner you can't really learn much more about how to dream big and go big and be happy about it than from Steve jobs. RIP Mr Jobs.

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He truly was a visionary, not just in his products but in the electronic business as a whole. It's sad anyway. RIP Steve.

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RIP Steve.

He had the vision to turn great computing devices into objects of desire which the ordinary man and woman in the street wanted, could use, and without crashing every 5 minutes.

Sure he had great designers, hardware and software designers working for him, but it was HIS ethos and vision which lead the teams bringing those products to market.

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Gone far too soon.

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I can't believe I see so many "omfg I am so sad" or "he was a visionary/revolutionary" posts.

I mean, sure, he changed some things, for example popularizing big smartphones and tablets, but he was not the first. He just knew how to ******** people with speeches such as: "Now you can hold the whole internet in your hands" (with the iPad).

And let us not forget that Apple stifled more innovation than they created. They sue companies left and right for breaking patents, and now they more or less claim that they owe exclusive rights to minimalistic tablets. They managed to get Samsung phones and tablets banned in some countries, and if they could get their way, they would get all their competitors banned worldwide. How is this innovating?

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This is pretty much what I'm saying.

I'll give him this much credit: He was GREAT for competition and a GENERALLY respectful adversary in business. He did, at least, give computing the kind of public image it needed--simple, clean and functional. An uncomplicated image.

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It is innovating business.

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See, that I could buy. But every time I hear news reporters and interviews, they keep speaking of him as a visionary in the same breath as inventions and innovations and invoking the names of people such as Thomas Edison (which is ironic given he's best known for "inventing the light bulb" but it's been shown that he wasn't the first to invent it... but the first to patent it--but that's the image you're supposed to see).

He was an excellent business person and he knew that the general public needed a good artsy looking thing if they were to accept computers and electronics into their daily lives the way most tech saavy people already do. For that, he was indeed a business man and a great entrepreneur... but by no means an inventor or originator.

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He innovated what his company was doing to a point that he made Apple the most valuable in the world. He achieved a level of success that is tangible and measurable.

I can understand why people don't get people feeling sad etc...but from an achievements standpoint he measurably achieved and executed on his vision to the very top and for this he undoubtedly deserves respect. I dream of being able to be as good at my job as he was at his.

I don't know much about his personal life but I'm guessing he was probably quite happy with that too or at least strove to make himself as happy as he could be.

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Oh, no doubt, he was an excellent business man, probably the best in the world. He started Apple from 0, and look where it is now.
But I don't respect him (or Apple) because they did a lot of unethical things to get where they are now.

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A very good friend of mine, who practically is an Apple convert -- mind you, educated, good with tech/computers (went from building his own Windows machines in the 90's to Linux to Mac) -- told me once he likes the feeling of opening up his Macbook in a public place like a coffee shop, that it makes him feel like he "belongs to a group". At first I laughed, then got irritated and finally argued with him for 2 hours. Point is, Jobs was able to make sane people do somewhat not-sane things while paying a premium for those things. A brilliant businessman indeed.

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Eventhough I dont heartly agree with some of the Apple ways -Closeness- and all, I have to admit I admire the way Apple came back alive and giving some of the best well thought and designed products of this era, well done. RIP Steve.

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Even if you say, Jobs wasn't the man behind the innovations, you can't argue that he was a leader with a vision. To me Apple is a corporate that has a vision that every employee knows and works for. You can't say that for many corporates.

Rest in peace Steve.

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Respect... RIP Steve

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SJ led the greatest corporate comeback ever

regardless of his "ethics", he was not one of those CEOs who sat back and voted himself a pay raise - the guy kept going non stop to do new **** - even when he had cancer.

as an investor you could not ask for a better CEO.

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Truly stunned this morning when I heard the news. Feel like something is missing from my world.

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good point. I *HATE* corporate "mission statements", they tend to be crass, puerile bull$hit that the employees at best ignore, or mor often hold up to sarcasm/ridicule (as the corporate behaviour almost never resembles the trite soundbite mission statememt). I don't actually know if Apple has a MS, but it's a moot point as their products and corporate actions speak for themselves in a very clear & unambiguous way. That is in no way an endorsement of Apple or its iProducts, but it is undeniable that he had corporate vision and executed it lke few if any other CEO's ever.

Just remember his achievements - a worldbeating series of consumer products, a customer base loyal beyond the point of rationality ... Oh, and the odd $90 billion in the coffers. his track record as CEO is astonishing, and as someone alluded to earlier in the thread, he was one of the few CEO's who were underpaid (regardless of what they paid him).

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thats marketing, it doesnt work on me.
reason reality distortion field never affected me.

its still cheap **** wrapped in shinny black and white skins. thats sells for premium

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Once more: in Africa whole generations die from AIDS.
In Europe and Americas cancer is the same "destroyer".
These two are the pest of our days and we only get aware slowly.
Very strange.


RIP Mr Jobs.

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The greatest things Jobs did, was bringing together a handful of real Software geniuses who developed NeXTStep in the end of eighties.

On his NeXT machine the Web was invented.

Could this be done on some Solaris/HPUX? Maybe. But not with the great ease the NeXT machine provided.

I personally owe Jobs a lot. Without the great NeXT cube, I would not have gone on a career in the Unix field. I may still be hacking Win95 instead.

And on my Mac, I always have a few terminal windows open.

I'm deeply sad that he died in this young age. RIP.

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Some people think they're smart for being able to avoid expensive things.

Some people are smart for being able to afford the expensive things.

At the end of the day, everyone comes up with their own reasons and explanations for the things they've done.... and most would say that they "wouldn't have done it any differently."

c'est la vie.

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__________

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Yes goodbye Adolf 2.0

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R.I.P Steve.

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Makes me cringe reading that. Sound like typical sheep behaviour, they tend to group in herds. I never cared about Apple, they have nothing to offer me. I never cared about Jobs, I don't care about him now. Yes it`s bad for anyone to go at 56. That's all.

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I agree with Dan, while Steve Jobs was a brilliant businessman, he was not an inventor. Hell he wasn't even a (decent) developer.
I also heard the news reporter likening him to Edison; and how he changed the world in a similar way by bringing something revolutionary (ie Light Bulb=iPhone).

But it is ironic that Edison was a dirty businessman with a quick wit. He didn't invent the bulb, he found a way to make it cheaper and patented it, and took on a world of popularity.

So I'm not trying to undermine the man, but this whole thing reminds me of Michael Jackson. Before his death, he wasn't a very likened man, remember the child sex charges? And after he died, there was so many onion rings that it stunk the entire civilizations.

And people saying "have a good time in heaven" must be joking. And also "We'll see you soon" is just as creepy. All you should do is pay your respect and condolences and move on (sorry to be the bitter part of the bittersweet sensation).

There's also a circling rumour saying he had died days/week before, but Apple chose to keep it under wrap, and they made it public several hours after the i4S was showcased.
That doesn't make sense!!!

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R.I.P Steve Jobs i`m not an apple fun, but have respect for steve, did a great job.

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Sometimes idiocy can reach truly amazing levels.

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Did we just have a Godwin's law sighting in a TMO thread?

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RIP Steve

He was a key player in the earlier days of the PC and without him, the industry would have been a completely different place. He should be remembered for that at least before any bashing of the istuff years.

**Goes and watches Pirates of silicon Valley***

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I strongly think that his legacy are not macs, istuff or money for shareholders. His legacy is this: http://news.stanford.edu/news/2005/j...bs-061505.html
I had never read it before, I didn't like him and his products. But this thing made me shiver. Respect.

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Was all teary eyed after watching that on youtube.

There's no question in my mind that the Jobs/Apple single handedly pushed consumer electronics some years to the future, or maybe even more likely pushed to direction that without Apple would have not happened.

I'm not talking about tablets (while that might or might not be his largest legacy in the end), but more about the UI. We don't need to put up a good enough UI's anymore.

Apple's way isn't the only way, but they did put the standard on what kind of performance we should expect.

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Here is an article about his virtues as a businessman, wrote by T. Ahonen some months ago. I think it's just right for the moment.

http://communities-dominate.blogs.co...as-as-ceo.html

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I'm with you. Didn't like him, and I don't like Apple products or the mindset needed to fully accept the Apple way of doing business...

...but that is one hell of a speech. If you haven't read it, read it.
Made me think, and sent a shiver down my spine.

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My mother always said the most valuable thing in the world is health. She also said it was something you can't buy......I guess she was right.

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He may have been the only CEO of a high technology company without a strong engineering or science background who did more good than harm to his company (as least in the US). He was the opposite of the dimwit MBAs who ruin great US firms like HP, and are paid millions to do it.

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OT [/joke] look and watch /joke] at elop . comes quickly from behind

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RIP Steve. Everyone everywhere in New York has an iPhone. I've yet to see ONE N900 or S^3 device anywhere in the city. He did something Nokia still can't do. Sell millions and millions of the same phone to New Yorkers.

He was a class act, he will be missed.

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Let's not puffer him up too much, folks. He was a great businessman and that's about it. He at least made electronics approachable to more people--but he was no saint. i.e. http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...ted-inhumanely

Tell me.. does that bring a tear to your eye as well? Let's not go overboard for a man you didn't personally know and kept telling people 'you're holding it wrong!' Think differently.

Also... from http://xkcd.com/961/

ETERNAL FLAME
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/eternal_flame.gif