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gerbick 2011-10-26 01:10
Nokia Lumia 800... same body as the N9, worse stats?
 
The Nokia Lumia 800, aka Sea Ray, doesn't seem to be setting the world ablaze.

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The Nokia Lumia has been benchmarked and lets all hope that the numbers are not representative of performance. TNW got their source to benchmark the upcoming device and initial results show it to be behind the pack in most areas.

The benchmarks show that the Lumia 800 falls flat when compared to outsiders like the Samsung GS II or even the aged iPhone 3GS, but it does remain close in performance to that of the HTC Titan. It should be heavily noted that the source of the benchmarks does say the device feels ‘slick and smooth’ and ‘not laggy’. We all know that raw performance stats are not the entire picture but you would think that this device would be competitive to the iPhone 3GS.
Seriously? Also no forward facing camera like the N9, despite having the same body. Read more here...

mikecomputing 2011-10-26 02:08
Re: Nokia Lumia 800... same body as the N9, worse stats?
 
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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1113693)
The Nokia Lumia 800, aka Sea Ray, doesn't seem to be setting the world ablaze.



Seriously? Also no forward facing camera like the N9, despite having the same body. Read more here...
is this confirmed device if so thats good let elop fail muhahaha

lma 2011-10-26 02:57
Re: Nokia Lumia 800... same body as the N9, worse stats?
 
Isn't the WP7 device "chassis spec" set in stone by MS anyway? Ie, apart from cosmetic differences they should all perform the same.

gerbick 2011-10-26 03:48
Re: Nokia Lumia 800... same body as the N9, worse stats?
 
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Originally Posted by lma (Post 1113714)
Isn't the WP7 device "chassis spec" set in stone by MS anyway? Ie, apart from cosmetic differences they should all perform the same.
This is true. But you'd think that they'd throw better hardware or go up dual core to avoid same comparisons with other WP7 phones already out.

Nope.

lma 2011-10-26 04:09
Re: Nokia Lumia 800... same body as the N9, worse stats?
 
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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1113720)
This is true. But you'd think that they'd throw better hardware or go up dual core to avoid same comparisons with other WP7 phones already out.
The point is, I don't think they are allowed to deviate from the official spec. The joys of outsourcing the OS I guess.

Anyway, after reading the article (and parent) in more detail: the bad performance isn't due to the hardware after all, it's really about IE vs webkit. The CPU itself isn't bad. Not that we care of course ;-)

gerbick 2011-10-26 04:39
Re: Nokia Lumia 800... same body as the N9, worse stats?
 
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Originally Posted by lma (Post 1113729)
The point is, I don't think they are allowed to deviate from the official spec. The joys of outsourcing the OS I guess.

Anyway, after reading the article (and parent) in more detail: the bad performance isn't due to the hardware after all, it's really about IE vs webkit. The CPU itself isn't bad. Not that we care of course
I got what you were saying. But there's a second generation of devices coming... different configurations and yet... they're not coming out initially.

I'm surprised by that.

Rauha 2011-10-26 05:24
Re: Nokia Lumia 800... same body as the N9, worse stats?
 
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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1113720)
But you'd think that they'd throw better hardware or go up dual core to avoid same comparisons with other WP7 phones already out.

Nope.
No dual core support in WP7 at the moment. Even with single cores the CPU support is narrow.

I guess they will try to justify Nokia tax with megapixels.

j d 2011-10-26 06:01
Re: Nokia Lumia 800... same body as the N9, worse stats?
 
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Originally Posted by Rauha (Post 1113750)
I guess they will try to justify Nokia tax with megapixels.
Oh, and it will be the first WP device that isn't disgustingly ugly.

I'd buy one of those over any other device on the market... Except the n9 :)

Rauha 2011-10-26 09:52
Re: Nokia Lumia 800... same body as the N9, worse stats?
 
Seems to be roughly what the market expected. Share price hovering slightly above/below yesterdays price. -0,5% at the moment.

neotalk 2011-10-26 10:06
Re: Nokia Lumia 800... same body as the N9, worse stats?
 
16 GB mass memory (no slot for micro-SD cards)

512 MB SDRAM

BV-5JW 3.7V 1450mAh

thats a downgrade as far as i am concerned from the N9.

PRETTY POOR REALLY.

I THINK PRICE QUOTED FROM ELOP WAS 420 EUROS BEFORE TAXES ETC?

Boemien 2011-10-26 10:16
Re: Nokia Lumia 800... same body as the N9, worse stats?
 
Are these the only phones for this NW11??? No High-end good mobile smartphone Computer???
****!! Nokia is falling down....!!!

Rauha 2011-10-26 10:35
Re: Nokia Lumia 800... same body as the N9, worse stats?
 
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Originally Posted by neotalk (Post 1113827)
16 GB mass memory (no slot for micro-SD cards)

512 MB SDRAM

BV-5JW 3.7V 1450mAh

thats a downgrade as far as i am concerned from the N9.

PRETTY POOR REALLY.

I THINK PRICE QUOTED FROM ELOP WAS 420 EUROS BEFORE TAXES ETC?
Yes. So roughly the same price as N9 with 20%ish European VAT.

jonnyl 2011-10-26 11:26
Re: Nokia Lumia 800... same body as the N9, worse stats?
 
Lmao, Elop really thinks that is what is going to break Windows Phone into the marketplace?

He made all these concessions to Microsoft, threw Qt under the bus, and this is what Microsoft gave them? No leniency on the Hardware requirements so they can't differentiate themselves?

I'm so glad I have my N9, in the US too :)

mmurfin87 2011-10-26 15:47
Re: Nokia Lumia 800... same body as the N9, worse stats?
 
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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1113693)
Also no forward facing camera like the N9, despite having the same body.
That is what has me disappointed. I would prefer a 4" screen but I can deal with a lesser one. Especially with tablets getting cheaper I can just pick one of those up to replace my browsing habits on my phone. The lack of a front facing camera, though, really disappoints me.

As far as performance, owning a Samsung Focushas made me realize that benchmarks are pointless for windows phones. They run amazingly well.

stickymick 2011-10-29 09:29
Re: Nokia Lumia 800... same body as the N9, worse stats?
 
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Originally Posted by mmurfin87 (Post 1114048)
That is what has me disappointed.
The whole f***ing has me disappointed.

There's no deviation from the same old same old. That's the thing I liked about Nokia, they deviated from the same old slab designs and they weren't afraid to try new things, like case design and going completely off the drawing boards when it came to OS features and complete OS's.

That's what I liked about my last 2 Nokia phones (N95-8GB and N900). They were Frankenstein phones IMO...... Ugly b@st@rds to look at, but they were the legends.


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