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sachin007 2007-07-21 14:24

Any reviews of the kaju media player? how does ad2p work?
 
I am interested in using ad2p headphones..... Any suggestions regarding the kaju player are welcome.

THAnks

SeRi@lDiE 2007-07-21 15:04

Re: Any reviews of the kaju media player? how does ad2p work?
 
ad2p is not supported in any of the versions of the ITT.

sachin007 2007-07-21 15:21

Re: Any reviews of the kaju media player? how does ad2p work?
 
How about this??

You may be interested in trevarthan's Kagu media player. It's basically UKMP + A2DP support + some other experiments in future (e.g. inertial scrolling)

https://www.guardiani.us/projects/kagu/wiki

Milhouse 2007-07-21 16:32

Re: Any reviews of the kaju media player? how does ad2p work?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 61902)
How about this??

You may be interested in trevarthan's Kagu media player. It's basically UKMP + A2DP support + some other experiments in future (e.g. inertial scrolling)

https://www.guardiani.us/projects/kagu/wiki

I had the fork of UKMP from the above site (now called Kagu) and A2DP (aslo from the above site) working in 3.2007 with Sony Ericsson HBH-DS970 stereo headphones - and it worked surprisingly well! There were some problems (delays) moving from one track to another, and it takes a bit of effort to get setup but once working the sound quality was on a par with my Sony Ericsson W950i Walkman phone.

sachin007 2007-07-21 18:54

Re: Any reviews of the kaju media player? how does ad2p work?
 
would like to us my n800 with this headset.....
http://www.newlaunches.com/archives/...dset_bh604.php

ill wait for somemore time...

blakboy98 2007-07-21 19:38

Re: Any reviews of the kaju media player? how does ad2p work?
 
i have used this same setup and A2DP is working with the Motorola HT820 headset as well but i haven't tried kagu yet just mplayer.

trevarthan 2007-07-25 09:30

Re: Any reviews of the kaju media player? how does ad2p work?
 
Hello, I'm the original author of the Kagu Media Player. As milhouse mentioned, AVRCP commands can be quite slow. I'm aware of the problem and very interested in getting it fixed, but I'm not sure why it's happening. I've added this request to our Things To Do (TTD) list: https://www.guardiani.us/projects/kagu/changeset/217

However, A2DP playback and volume control work very well and have been stable in Kagu for weeks now. I use A2DP on a regular basis with my Motorola s9 headset.

Also, I'd like to note that Kagu is no longer a one-man project. An excellent fellow going by the nickname 'disq' is now actively helping me develop Kagu. He has already written a nice .deb build system for us, knocked out a number of items on our TTD list that I haven't had time to handle, given us a nice Kagu icon, contributed many excellent ideas, and motivated us to nail down a release schedule. Needless to say, I'm thrilled to have him aboard the project. :)

With disq's help, I'm fairly confident that we'll have a 1.0 release in under a week's time. So... if you're interested in an excellent music player with A2DP support on the n800 (and maybe the 770?), look no further than Kagu. I'm confident you won't be disappointed.

sachin007 2007-07-25 11:51

Re: Any reviews of the kaju media player? how does ad2p work?
 
wow thats great news..... i am waiting eagerly. I really apprecitate the passion and work you guys put it. I would really like to help..... but i am a medical student.... so can do nothing but appreciate your hard work.
Thanks again.

trevarthan 2007-07-25 12:40

Re: Any reviews of the kaju media player? how does ad2p work?
 
Once we have a 1.0 release, the biggest thing non-programmers can do for us would be to get out gimp or photoshop and make some new themes. Our theme engine won't be 100% complete with 1.0 release (missing easy theme switching and other user features), but most of the important stuff for theme development is in there already. We're interested in helping out anyone who wants to create new themes. The default 1.0 release theme will be less than ideal as I personally have very little graphical talent and I "stole" most of the current theme elements from an older version of UKMP. (UKMP has since gotten a make-over and looks much better than Kagu right now)

If anyone is interested in helping out with theme creation, please contact us on IRC via the FreeNode #maemo channel, or email me directly at jesse@guardiani.us.

orbitalcomp 2007-07-25 22:19

Re: Any reviews of the kaju media player? how does ad2p work?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trevarthan (Post 62801)
Hello, I'm the original author of the Kagu Media Player. As milhouse mentioned, AVRCP commands can be quite slow. I'm aware of the problem and very interested in getting it fixed, but I'm not sure why it's happening. I've added this request to our Things To Do (TTD) list: https://www.guardiani.us/projects/kagu/changeset/217

However, A2DP playback and volume control work very well and have been stable in Kagu for weeks now. I use A2DP on a regular basis with my Motorola s9 headset.

Also, I'd like to note that Kagu is no longer a one-man project. An excellent fellow going by the nickname 'disq' is now actively helping me develop Kagu. He has already written a nice .deb build system for us, knocked out a number of items on our TTD list that I haven't had time to handle, given us a nice Kagu icon, contributed many excellent ideas, and motivated us to nail down a release schedule. Needless to say, I'm thrilled to have him aboard the project. :)

With disq's help, I'm fairly confident that we'll have a 1.0 release in under a week's time. So... if you're interested in an excellent music player with A2DP support on the n800 (and maybe the 770?), look no further than Kagu. I'm confident you won't be disappointed.

Wow, great news trevarthan! I've been wanting to try your player, but I have been leery of getting into all the terminal commands. A one click install would be great...

Thanks for all the work on this project...A2DP support on the N800 is *long* overdue, glad to see it is becoming a reality. Some quick questions: how is the CPU and battery usage with Kagu, and will I still be able to multitask without any problem? Also, does the A2DP streaming interfere with WiFi at all? I know when I stream audio over WiFi thru A2DP on my WinMo devices, they seem to choke quite a bit - very choppy.

Thanks again!

trevarthan 2007-07-26 13:51

Re: Any reviews of the kaju media player? how does ad2p work?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by orbitalcomp (Post 63026)
how is the CPU and battery usage with Kagu, and will I still be able to multitask without any problem?

CPU usage isn't too bad *without* A2DP. The real killer is RAM usage. Kagu uses about 29M of RAM with my 4Gb MP3 collection. (It has to cache a lot of images in memory to achieve any sort of speed). It's very similar to UKMP in this respect. I'm going to try to improve this, possibly before the 1.0 release, but if not, definitely after 1.0.

Keep in mind that Kagu uses pygame (like UKMP and Canola), which uses SDL, which in turn is designed for games and therefore wants to hog 100% CPU. We've added a lot of optimizations to get the CPU usage down (for example, when the screen dims or turns off, we stop refreshing the screen and therefore use much less CPU) and improve battery life, but it's still not really designed for multitasking.

*with* A2DP, CPU usage is a real issue. You really don't want to be doing anything else while playing A2DP audio as it usually causes skipping.

Quote:

Originally Posted by orbitalcomp (Post 63026)
Also, does the A2DP streaming interfere with WiFi at all? I know when I stream audio over WiFi thru A2DP on my WinMo devices, they seem to choke quite a bit - very choppy.

Yes, they clash sometimes. It's usually the other way around though. Usually WiFi will make your A2DP audio skip. But in my experience this is fairly rare. Just keep in mind that all of the usual A2DP restrictions apply.

orbitalcomp 2007-07-26 17:10

Re: Any reviews of the kaju media player? how does ad2p work?
 
cool...I look forward to trying Kagu out once you get the new version finished...

greygoo 2007-07-26 21:43

Re: Any reviews of the kaju media player? how does ad2p work?
 
I use a2dp with mplayer and had some issues with getting kaju to work, but i only installed it and tied for about 5 minutes up to now.

The a2dp stuff itself works amazingly well, I have a bluetooth audio adapter where i can attach a custom headset to, it works fine with the nokia provided one, even the mic works. The bt module can bind to two devices at the same time, like mobile phone and n800, I can listen to music from n800 and as soon as the phone gets a call the music stops and it rings in the headset. I can then answer the call (as said, the microphone of the headset shipped with the n800 works with the bt audio adapter) and as soon as i end the call using the button on the bt audio adapter, the music from n800 continues playing.
I tried getting this working with my previous pda, a palm tungsten 5 and miserably failed, so imagine my happyness about how well it works with the n800.

For the issues with cpu load and stopping sound I found it very helpful to apply a 'renice' on the pids of a2dpd and mplayer in combination with a nice value of -12 or -13, the rest of the system gets quite slow but at least i can enjoy the music with only very few breaks and still do something else on the device. Hooray for unix!!!

The kaju player I'll try to use as soon as I'm done reding forums posts :)

PS: setting the alsa device in ~/.mplayer and using kmplayer as mplayer frontend has been my solution up to now.

disq 2007-07-29 23:02

Re: Any reviews of the kaju media player? how does ad2p work?
 
Kagu 1.0 is finally released, click here for details and an auto-install link.

zerojay 2007-07-30 00:04

Re: Any reviews of the kaju media player? how does ad2p work?
 
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trevarthan 2007-07-30 00:53

Re: Any reviews of the kaju media player? how does ad2p work?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zerojay (Post 63993)
401 - authentication required

I noticed that too. something about the link. try this instead:
http://maemo.org/downloads/product/kagu/

And BTW, if anyone is curious, it's "Kagu", not "Kaju". Kaju is a typo.

Thanks!

trevarthan 2007-07-30 01:03

Re: Any reviews of the kaju media player? how does ad2p work?
 
I've started a new thread with "kagu" in the name instead of "kaju" to reduce confusion. Please make any new posts to this new thread:

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ead.php?t=8265

Rocketman 2007-07-30 03:22

Re: Any reviews of the kaju media player? how does ad2p work?
 
Anybody else notice that the Kagu homepage security certificates expired like a year ago and are self signed? If you are going to self sign certificates, you might as well keep em up to date :)

I guess Jesse is too busy watching MythTV :)

http://www.guardiani.us/index.php/GuardianiUS:About

trevarthan 2007-07-30 05:39

Re: Any reviews of the kaju media player? how does ad2p work?
 
Jesse has been too busy developing Kagu lately. Gimme a break man. :)


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