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panjgoori 2012-01-09 13:30

Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
I was searching roaming on net and found something. Symbian source codes have been leaked. Here is the LINK. will this help in porting Symbian^3 to N900 ?

[Knuckles] 2012-01-09 13:33

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
The question would be more like, why the hell would you want S^3, if you have an almost-working legal Android port.

panjgoori 2012-01-09 13:39

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by [Knuckles] (Post 1147876)
The question would be more like, why the hell would you want S^3, if you have an almost-working legal Android port.

ovi maps, full offline navigation without even using a single byte of data, nokia apps, calls, msgs, etc

Boemien 2012-01-09 15:50

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by [Knuckles] (Post 1147876)
The question would be more like, why the hell would you want S^3, if you have an almost-working legal Android port.

It seems to be the FULL SOURCECODE. so we must expect stability, access to all the drivers ( :rolleyes: ), Real java games and apps, did you thought about it?? And also all the sisx softwares out there? It could be a second chance for Symbian 3 and all the maemo users who are still sticked to their N900 could have a chance to test another system (Just like we already do with Ubuntu, Easy debian or Win95(only for remembering purpose).

so Hell Yeah, it would Rocks!!!

kralde 2012-01-09 15:52

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
Recently, I changed my N900 for an HTC HD2 (the other developer-like device xD), but if symbian^3 comes to n900, I will rechange my hd 2 for another n900 =)

Boemien 2012-01-09 15:58

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
So Pleaaaase guys, it is time to Work on this new challenge.
I know it's an old dream for maemo users.

Check here for ideas:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...hlight=Symbian

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ht=Symbian%5E3

:D :D :D

Edit: Two years with tne N900, and I still love you!!!! :rolleyes: :cool:

marmistrz 2012-01-09 15:59

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
wow it'd rock!
finally we'd have the sim application toolkit!

Boemien 2012-01-10 10:17

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
Nobody seems to be interested.... :(

panjgoori 2012-01-10 10:18

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
yes develooers should port this to N900. i love to show my n900 running symbian yo my friends. please port it quick. its my dream to run nokia bubble in my dream phone n900

Hurrian 2012-01-10 10:23

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
For those with half a clue on what the hell to do with this:

Symbian is loadable by u-boot.

BTW, Symbian is heavily modified per device. You can't just build this and run, unless this tree of the S^3 code is targeted for the N900.

qwazix 2012-01-10 13:40

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
If all the driver source is there, whouldn't it be better if effort is made to port Maemo to say E7 than the other way around?

Sourav.dubey 2012-01-10 13:58

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
Well
if everyone contribute in porting
symbian to n900
it will be a great pleasure
it will be like dream coming true

thanks to community

panjgoori 2012-01-10 15:47

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hurrian (Post 1148281)
For those with half a clue on what the hell to do with this:

Symbian is loadable by u-boot.

BTW, Symbian is heavily modified per device. You can't just build this and run, unless this tree of the S^3 code is targeted for the N900.

but its a very lite OS. i managed to run 34 apps at same time including heavy one like opera mobile, opera mini, maps etc on 369 mhz processor and with only 128 mb of ram. and also we will get better battery life for our beloved N900 as symbian is not resource hunger nor battery hunger.

Alfred 2012-01-10 16:08

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by panjgoori (Post 1148414)
but its a very lite OS. i managed to run 34 apps at same time including heavy one like opera mobile, opera mini, maps etc on 369 mhz processor and with only 128 mb of ram. and also we will get better battery life for our beloved N900 as symbian is not resource hunger nor battery hunger.

And even thought it's not worth it

panjgoori 2012-01-10 16:15

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfred (Post 1148426)
And even thought it's not worth it

they ported Android for N900 then why not Symbian ? all source codes are leaked, everything leaked that Symbian^3 uses to run. its lighter that Android, better battery life, better performance. if someone port it then i will the first person to try it on my N900. even if its in experimental state.

don_falcone 2012-01-10 16:17

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sourav.dubey (Post 1148349)
Well
if everyone contribute in porting
symbian to n900
it will be a great pleasure
it will be like dream coming true

thanks to community

Well, then we should aggregate all those well-known Indian software developers :D to fulfill this dream! ;)

OTFII. (oh, the fail in it...)

blackjack4it 2012-01-10 16:27

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
Very Well, count me in beta-testers:cool:

Sourav.dubey 2012-01-10 16:28

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
Well i will say instead of finding mistakes
use your brain in contributing at least support them
don't break their hopes

well done panjgoori

panjgoori 2012-01-10 17:37

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
please someone should try it. its not that hard. i dont how to port thats why i cant port it.

Estel 2012-01-10 17:42

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
Do it yourself, as it seems that no one with single working&sane brain cell is interested. Why the hell care about symbian, if You're running Linux-compatible distribution, with less and less non-FOSS components every day?

Quote:

Originally Posted by qwazix (Post 1148341)
If all the driver source is there, whouldn't it be better if effort is made to port Maemo to say E7 than the other way around?

This, OTOH, seems quite reasonable. It could be fun, if achievable. Yet, as it was said, symbian is very device-oriented, and we have no clue which version leaked, if leaked at all.

/Estel

www.rzr.online.fr 2012-01-10 18:21

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwazix (Post 1148341)
If all the driver source is there, whouldn't it be better if effort is made to port Maemo to say E7 than the other way around?

I wish I can run meego CE on my E7 too but having the source does not mean it can load any custom rom ...

bocephus 2012-01-10 18:48

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I can't believe there are people who want to exchange Maemo for Symbian. That the other way around may now be possible is the only thing that counts as far as I'm concerned.

m4r0v3r 2012-01-10 18:50

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question is why would you want symbian on an OS that runs so much better? i understand apps and what not, but am not switching OS's everytime i want to use maps, we have plenty of alternative applications, I don't understand why people keep wanting to port more and more OS's for the sake of saying I can do it, its like Nokia constantly buying more and more OS's...

Boemien 2012-01-10 19:50

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 1148508)
question is why would you want symbian on an OS that runs so much better? i understand apps and what not, but am not switching OS's everytime i want to use maps, we have plenty of alternative applications, I don't understand why people keep wanting to port more and more OS's for the sake of saying I can do it, its like Nokia constantly buying more and more OS's...

It could be well ported to be fully usable. NitDroid works quite well except the call function which is missing. Not missing at all because it seems that you can call but can't hear.

So as it is the full source code which has been leaked, we could expect, full working call function, gprs, wifi, bluetooth and at least a minimum of stability to be short, A full usable OS like N8 have.

but Unfortunately, all of these are expectations and no one seems to be truly interested.

m4r0v3r 2012-01-10 20:05

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
but the n8 was crap, the only good thing about it was the camera and that was hardware

vakkov 2012-01-10 20:10

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
Guys,
I cannot open the dailymobile thread but I am almost sure that you are talking about the source code which has been staying on my hard drive for months ... symbian 3 source was leaked very long ago - i was still a symbian user ...

don_falcone 2012-01-10 20:23

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by panjgoori (Post 1148467)
please someone should try it. its not that hard. i dont how to port thats why i cant port it.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9lbaHzVHyZ...lson_haha2.jpg

Scusi dude, but you obviously know jack sh*t to make such an (quite bold) assumption.

marmistrz 2012-01-10 20:47

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 1148508)
question is why would you want symbian on an OS that runs so much better? i understand apps and what not, but am not switching OS's everytime i want to use maps, we have plenty of alternative applications, I don't understand why people keep wanting to port more and more OS's for the sake of saying I can do it, its like Nokia constantly buying more and more OS's...

thats the point
switchin' between systems can really piss you off! (know it from my desktop experience)
Much better would be something like wine or preenv - running the apps in maemo.

vakkov 2012-01-10 21:33

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
I contacted the guy. Here is what he answered:
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Hello dj U.G.
Can you please give me a link to the source code so i can see if it's not the same i have?
Cheers



Symbian OS layer:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FI5EN692
mirror:
http://depositfiles.com/files/0zvajlqqr
http://hotfile.com/dl/113154364/ccab...ianOS.rar.html
http://uploading.com/files/9626d2e1/SymbianOS.rar/


Adaptation Layer:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YUNBJ8IW
mirror:
http://depositfiles.com/files/a35nsx6n1
http://hotfile.com/dl/113097015/8dfb...Adapt.rar.html


Symbian Middleware:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QZFUZ4L0
mirror:
http://depositfiles.com/files/fugtgycf7




Source code of the symbian^3 application(music player,screensaver,ecc.)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7MHQ9RP3
mirror:
http://depositfiles.com/files/z5sxtz9h6
http://hotfile.com/dl/113105376/4743...tions.rar.html


The source code of bootloader are inside of SymbianOS layer the folder is: os/kernelhwsvr/brbootldr




HOWEVER these files are over the internet for a very long time now (since nokia made symbian 3 open source and then closed it again).

The idea of an emulator like preenv is nice but i think it`s impossible - symbian is not even Linux

m4r0v3r 2012-01-10 23:23

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
so why not make maps from the source code?

panjgoori 2012-01-11 06:32

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bocephus (Post 1148506)
I can't believe there are people who want to exchange Maemo for Symbian. That the other way around may now be possible is the only thing that counts as far as I'm concerned.

no one wants to exchange Maemo for Symbian. If someone port it to N900 then it will be a just alternative just like Nitdroid.

MFaroTusino 2012-01-11 07:11

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
Since we have access to boot loader, shouldn't it be theoretically possible to boot Maemo/MeeGo onto our S^3 devices the same way we boot NitDroid on our N900s?

(Yes, I know it can't happen over night, and it isn't plug and play. A LOT of hard work will need to happen, but isn't it at least possible?)

jacktanner 2012-01-11 07:13

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
Why is TMO being used to discuss software that is likely pirated?

ossipena 2012-01-11 08:21

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by panjgoori (Post 1148467)
please someone should try it. its not that hard. i dont how to port thats why i cant port it.

you know it is not hard but you don't have a clue how to port stuff?

Sourav.dubey 2012-01-11 08:24

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 1148773)
you know it is not hard but you don't have a clue how to port stuff?

please then help him in doing so

Kangal 2012-01-11 08:45

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
So we have resources from:
-MeeGo 1.2
-Tizen
-WebOS
-Symbian

... can these recycle some code to each other to make them better?
... can a community developed "MaeOS" be created?
if not, what can these bring to the AOSP?

... .... can we look forward to source code of QNX / BBX, lmao ?!?!

ossipena 2012-01-11 08:48

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sourav.dubey (Post 1148775)
please then help him in doing so

why should I? I'd rather focus to Maemo6 app development...

Hurrian 2012-01-11 09:15

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MFaroTusino (Post 1148760)
Since we have access to boot loader, shouldn't it be theoretically possible to boot Maemo/MeeGo onto our S^3 devices the same way we boot NitDroid on our N900s?

(Yes, I know it can't happen over night, and it isn't plug and play. A LOT of hard work will need to happen, but isn't it at least possible?)

lol
Symbian phones have a pretty secure boot chain. You'd probably need to sign some images before you can boot them on the device.

Boemien 2012-01-11 09:22

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hurrian (Post 1148784)
lol
Symbian phones have a pretty secure boot chain. You'd probably need to sign some images before you can boot them on the device.

Hahahaha! I remember the old days of symbian where one have to sign softwares before install them to the phone. Or simply hack the firmware with HelloOX, x-Plore and bla bla bla...
I'm missing those experiences!!!!! :D

Hurrian 2012-01-11 09:44

Re: Symbian^3 Source Code and Bootleader has been Leaked
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boemien (Post 1148785)
Hahahaha! I remember the old days of symbian where one have to sign softwares before install them to the phone. Or simply hack the firmware with HelloOX, x-Plore and bla bla bla...
I'm missing those experiences!!!!! :D

The boot images aren't signed the same way as sisx apps. While you can easily get a "developer certificate" for HelloOX, I don't think you can easily get a certificate to sign an image you feed to NOLO.

http://n70linux.wordpress.com/ - some dude trying to load code onto a Nokia phone. Needs a specific hack for code execution. Nasty hacky stuff, in addition, Maemo/MeeGo/Mer would run like *** on anything but the highest specced S^3 phones such as the N8 and E7, because they have cheap ARMv6 processors and non-flagship devices have a painfully low amount of RAM.


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