Nokia with Windows Phone is a very very bad idea!
 

Hello people!

I'm joking on Nokia this morning! :D

Of course, read that (translate the link witch google if you want) http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gi...06250586098187

Nokia with Windows Phone is going to hell!

- Everyone wanted a N950: Nokia has not release it! :eek:
- A lot of people wanted a N9: Nokia release it very expensive and only in some places!:eek:
- Everybody dislikes Windows Mobile: Nokia now release this smartphone on Windows Phone! :eek:

HTC is clever, Samsung to but Nokia is stupid and it's for us to pay! :mad:

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so what point does this make, no offense dude

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I wish I could talk kindergarten!

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...for-stock.html

"expected" figures only - but expectations are its not a failure...

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It will sell. It will suck too.

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Saw a Lumia 800 and a few other Win based phones, when we went shopping for my Fiance's upgrade, they even look "tacky" - how can anyone choose a Windows based phone over Android / iPhone? (Most people go on looks, in my opinion)

I didn't include Maemo/Meego based phones because where I am, I have never seen them advertised, I had to ask for my N900...

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I could do that ... well, only if there is no N9 (laugh) ... Lumia 800 is a nice phone with a good price (just compare price against iPhone) - and it is fast one (no lags) with a good bright display (just like N9) and it has maps, drive, music mix, a nice office integration and even battery life is improved now (since last week) and there is already a lot of apps available too (including Whatsapp, Board Express and SoundHound) ... well, maybe Lumia 900 - no, I will keep my N9 ... :)

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I have N950 (loaner) and lumia 800, lumia kicks *** IMHO and runs circles around harmattan because of the broad ecosystem provided by m$....

e: the only major drawback in windows is the stupid buttons that can be found from any other device except N9/N950. using such buttons is really annoying and unintuitive. I'd rather take N9 only if there was built in skydrive (onenote), xbox live etc...

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He said ecosystem!!!!

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Sorry, I just don't like Microsoft :)

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was in paris last week there is no single place without an ad for FakeN9s so i guess it will sell , but i am unsure about if it generate more $ that the ad campain ...

btw , do all LP members got a device ? me not

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Interesting to note that the N9 is not far behind the Lumia (1.3m units in two months). We all know which is the better phone - maybe consumers do as well?

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funny way of presenting it...

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do you think the design team that came up with the polycarbanate and curved glass cares whether it runs wp or harmattan?

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:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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nokia and Microsoft should go on their own paths.
nokia should provide us great "phones", with great "specifications", and windows should do what they ( probably ) do best - software for whatewer electronics we own.

but, untill then, we have the power of money and opinions, and we can protest against their products if we don't like them.

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Ooops, so do I. :p

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lol je suis français, on n'a pas de N9 chez nous mdr xD !

I'm French, they are not N9 in France lol!

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It's easy to find it. expansys have good n9's for "only" 449 euros.
Le N9 c'est de la balle. il manque les apps androids...

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You mean like Elop when he talking **** about Nokias own OS:es?

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I have an N950. And even though I was just as sad as everyone when I heard the news that Meego would be discontinued. I can only give credit to the Lumia 800 which I got as a gift from Nokia.
There is a world of difference in smoothness when I compared my N950 and the Lumia 800 which I never thought possible and it's in favor of the Lumia 800.
Also the social integration which I was so fond of on my N900 is equally well or better (if the bugs get worked out) implemented on WP Mango.

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My n9, from expansys, actually shipped from Marseilles, so there are definitely n9s in France :).

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When looking for a certain function on the Lumia I always find myself stumbling around without much clue, trying to guess the contents of the cut-off metro labels, until I find the function I was looking for, or until I give up.
Really, WP is so very unintuitive it's no longer funny.
There's no multitasking either.

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Emmmm
no there is

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Ha ha! I mean multitasking, not a multitasking simulation with screenshots and freezing/killing apps in the background.
Just look at the different clock times on the screenshots. No multitasking, sorry.

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Unfortunately I wasn't able to test my Lumia too much - its out of service 50% of the time on two of three networks I've tested and when it has signal - it tops at 2 bars where N900 and N950 get constantly 5. Does someone has similar experiences or just my unit is faulty? On top I don't like Metro and the crippled browser, good thing is that my wife is not that picky :D

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I dont see a world of difference in smoothness. They run equally as well. Considering how much more Maemo 6 is doing, I'd pick the N9 any day. I hate all of the use of back buttons used in WP7. I got lost easily trying to create an Xbox avatar, ended up losing my changes. Then there's the times I want to go back and then crap! There goes the web page I was just looking at because I hit the browser back instead of the system back. I dumped my lumia back to the wife too, they're going to have a huge female userbase. On the plus side, the N900 is back in my hands

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My personal review...
"The Good":
- Fast boot times
Note that it cheats; if you try to run any application right after boot it will show "Loading...". Even considering that, boot time is still around half that of the N950.
This is actually more useful that it sounds. It means that when the N950 and the Lumia are both off and I need to look something up, I turn the Lumia on.
- Universal home and back buttons that work.

"The Bad":
- Unstable
I've seen it hang on boot (repeteadly), hang while installing an application, hang while uninstalling an application, hang while upgrading to the newest release, fail to automatically check mail (for an entire weekend!)
- Total and utter lack of multitasking
Even the LOCKSCREEN is considered "another application" and if you lock the screen you lose your current minesweeper game. Try this, it's not an exaggeration, I'm completely serious.
Of course additionally the usual complains about not being able to load webpages in the background, to download files in the background, to wait for PDFs to render in the background....
But Maemo is the only mobile platform left that does multitasking right (and ironically, Windows Mobile <= 6.5), so I guess everyone is already used to this crap.
- Non discoverable UI
A relative of mine was not able to play music using the builtin Zune application because after launching it ("tapping on "Music&Videos") you get a screen with "Applications: YouTube" and nothing more. Not even a single hint that the application is a panorama and that you should scroll right to see the actual music and videos.
This relative eventually rejected the device and returned it to me.
- Poor battery life
Being less useful than a decade-old Palm handheld, one would at least expect astronomical battery life. But for some reason it is actually worse than the battery life on my N950....
- Useless volume control
It is already way too loud at minimum volume (1/30). I am yet to listen to music at more than 5/30 because I fear I will break the speakers. And you cannot set independent alarms / music volumes.
- Horrible audio quality
Not a WP7 problem I guess. But my Lumia sounds horribly worse than my N950. It always sounds distorted; maybe related to the above problem.

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That's just pathetic. The more I hear about this sad excuse of an OS the less impressed I am. But then maybe I'm spoilt.

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As good an example of "form over function" as I've ever heard. They're clearly trying so hard to be cool that they're crapping their pants - and all the user is left with is a faint whiff of ****. Simple never goes out of fashion!

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I have an n900 and a lumia 800. Personally i love my n900 and really enjoyed owning it for the past 2 years. However in the modern day to day life i have it is very impractical. When I look at my lumia 800 I know it is going to work how I want, when i want and where I want without giving me any grief. My n900 is great for a quick glance with the widgets and homescreens, which is something I wish WP7 had, and I definitely will be buying a phone with an actual keyboard next time. But after using my lumia the n900 feels outdated, and riddled with problems. ESPECIALLY the charger port. I've even used an N9 for a couple of days, and to be honest as much as the UI is a step up above most others, you can actually notice the lack of support after 5minutes use, let alone 2 weeks.

I've already saved up for when W8 is released, I'll be buying myself a tablet, a phone and new PC all running W8. As much as it is restricted, it works. I'm all for open-source but in my opinion, the only reliable open-source is usually the closed source option.

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Nokias classic BS those numbers refer to retailers and operator and not real costumers.

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And apart from this physical flaw?

I think those of us who really are have accepted that it requires a little more effort from the user. It's a bit like believing that lowering ones CO2 contributions might be a good idea. Some things are allowed to carry an extra cost, in effort and/or money - but only you can decide whether it's worth it.

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Ah, t'es français toi aussi, bienvenu au club :p !

C'est clair, il lui manque des applis Android et il est chère sur Expensys (il est Expensive quoi :rolleyes:).

OK, you're French to!
Welcome! :cool:

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You do the best :D!

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Maybe you're crazy! :D

When I know you can do more things on N900 whereas L800, two years laters (like IR transmitter, like FM transmitter, like free apps and more), I think WP is for my grandmother.

I'm sorry but in France, WP is for crazies people x'D !

- Some people likes Android because Android is "free"
- Some people likes Maemo/MeeGo because Maemo is realy free
- Some people likes iPhone for his big app catalog (but some people like me know they are a lot of useless apps to :rolleyes:).
- Some people prefer Windows Mobile because they are crazy :D!

I'm working in a Datacenter.
Why people wants free OS now?

Because :
- Free OS are... Free :D
- The apps on the free OS are... Free :D
- The assistances on free OS are Free (like on this forum :p)
- The updates is most frequent on free OS
- Free OS are less viruses

So if you like you L800, it's your choice.
Some people like having "beautiful" object, of course, everybody want beautiful things but if you have a beautiful object with less functionnality then older, I think you're crazy!

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In my N900, I can modify what I want.
It's free and I can update my N900 after.

I don't need to jaibreak my N900 to do that ant I don't need to use iTune to import music and more.

I'm sorry, my N900 with 32GB is for me the best phone!

The N950 is better but Nokia don't release it, why :'(!

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According to the Guardian, Nokia's "Best brainwave: sacking Olli-Pekka Kallasvuo in September 2010 and replacing him with Stephen Elop."

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The original iThing sucked big time in capabilities, but it sold and got much better over years.

So, I think it's just if it can survive long enough to become mature.

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Yeah well, that just makes me sad. Imagine what could have been had they not killed Harmattan in the cradle - many of us are wielding a tantalising clue in the form of the N9. There is absolutely zero chance that this journalist has actually tested a MeeGo device - and the same goes for anyone else who discounts it as a failure. Seeing is believing, and the proof, as they say, is indeed in the pudding.

Mmm, tasty!