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hot!! Go nokia

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Wow, look at the specs...

From the leaked slides, we can see that this devices will have the following specs:
4.3″ Curved Glass touchscreen with HD display
41mp sensor, Carl Zeiss lens and PureView imaging technology
080p full HD video recording and Rich Recording Technology
Dual Core processor with Adreno 320 GPU
Windows Phone 8 OS

I kid about the specs typo, guess the author of the article had his other hand busy at the thought of a WP feature phone ;)

Somehow this just looks like a concept design or some fanboy dream phone. Maybe its the little cynic in me popping up after seeing so many supposed "leaked phones" or the doubt that if Nokia and MS wanted to push the pure view tech for windows phone, then they would have announced it for their flagship phones first?

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Maybe it is, no idea how little is your cynic in you, but frankly, one of the worst things that came with iphones for me: flat, oblong, slim brick design (with apple patented rounded corners lol). Where are the flipphones, razrs, ngages... there used to be sooo much diversity (with similar offering hw/sw wise), now we not only have same sw, but design guys just took a break. Probably fanboy design, still looks amazing.

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Oh I do agree, it does look like very nice design for the case. Kind of "sporty" IMO and yes I do agree that all we seem to have these days are slabs (not counting the budget candy bar phones)

But I do wonder how legit the images really are? Or if it is a real Nokia design then maybe it could be one of the many that are drawn up on a daily basis? After all they do hire guys who sole role is to draw phones all day for the R&D department.

To be quite frank, we have seen so many supposedly "leaked" handsets these days that I have learned to not get excited until an official announcement is made.

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This article just reeks of Nokia/Microsoft desperation:

Now comes the hard part — selling the Nokia Lumia 900

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Desperation in PR dept or marketing or R&D??? 900 is on par if not better than latest iphone. No desperation here, except maybe counting on users bored with revolutionary iDevices (ipad3 revolution in the making, revolutionary higher resolution and processor, 41mpx tops that in all possible ways). Steve left quite a mess, without his charisma noone is going to be able to sell single threaded OS as smartphone indeed. Hundreds of pages claiming iPhone size as the best will not change peoples interest in Note. Does apple still have a visionary/marketer?

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you mean only steve jobs could have sold wp...

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sold wp? LoL

sold a piece of crap. Maemo is better 1000%.

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Apple came back to life with bringing new products especialy the ipod, plus some help from MS that didn't want to be characterized as a monopoly. Nokia didn't introduce anything new besides the N9 it's same ***** different phone for the average user. And 99% of the people does care about their iphones and their androids thwey just don't care about MS and Nokia. Why would you buy a WP phone if your friends and family are using Iphones and droids and are happy with them??? You would if WP offered you something spectacular. Does it? It most definitely not. Just a iphone wannabe with a horrible logo and brand name that people hate.

Yes sir. Those tablets are useless I agree but people LOOOOVE them you don't here many people bragging about their new PC but they love those Ipads. Apple sold more iPads in 2011 then HP sold Desktops. In a way it's steve jobs revenge to MS they threw him out of the desktop market and he made it obsolete.

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I just had to type this in for this conversation...
taken from Tech News Today 473 (Thu 4/5/2012), this email from Richard in Cleveland (about 47 minutes into the podcast):

Tom and Posse,
I find it a little odd that in the reviews of the Lumia 900, people have been disappointed that Nokia didn't put in the latest and greatest technology. This was echoed by Iyaz on yesterday's show. It's my understanding that Windows Phone 7 runs on very specific hardware. There is no code base to support higher resolutions, multiple cores, more than 512mb of RAM or crazy camera optics. While Nokia supposedly had more lattitude to customize Windows Phone 7, I don't think they had the access, resources or time, to rewrite the operating system to support even one of those features. Of course, this raises question of what Nokia can offer to the platform that others can't. Not to say that people CAN'T complain about the hardware on the Lumia 900 and the reviews are appropriate to point out this deficiency compared to other platforms but I think the blame should be focused more on Microsoft than Nokia for not being on the cutting edge.

Iyaz Akhtar responded to the email saying:
The reason why I think a lot of people were disappointed about the 900 is the fact that it's not necessarily as future-proof as some of these other phones should be. While Windows Phone 7 does have limitations, in the future Windows Phone 8 which is, like, I think rumored to be December--that's the big rumor--if that shows up around that time this Nokia will not be able to support some things that the next version should be able to do. When you get a phone that has a two year contract, you're stuck for TWO YEARS unless you want to pay extra. I know it's only $99 with a contract and that's an attractive kind of feature but TWO YEARS where you're stuck with last year's technology, even if the software gets better, you might not be able to get access to that and that's why I think that Nokia's still botched it.

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there answer to that...
GET A BIGGER SCREEN

¦-))))))))))))))))

welcome to the club :mad:
and it isn't screen specific... every m$ release means practically always new hardware...
XP (NT 5.10) and se7en (NT 6.10) were notable exceptions because both were needed (badly so for m$ :D) "super patches" for their respective predecessors, but otherwise...

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ever seen a CSSU for m$?

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most posters here despise m$ profoundly.
stick it up your @$$, swallow it &... get lost


i'm not especially found of the country i live in neither (i'm not even a national of) but IF you weren't a troll looking for any excuses to post, you'd swallow... your pride &... shut up :D

capire?

the original purpose of this thread was to ridicule Flop, not talk about m$ cr@p

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This is sad. I'll leave the thread to you primates so you can keep throwing your poop to Microsoft with your bare hands.

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dont need to be sad, you will be happier than before, with pleasure :D

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we too, won't we? ;) :cool:

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forgot to mention sliders... these are quite cool too. **** you design guys. May you rot in hell

The main argument against phone-design diversity is market fragmentation. In one way it leads to sheepish stylin' of one boring design. Nokia's huge asset was diversity, which after change to marketplace as profit driving factor turned out to be costing too much vs return. In huge mass campaigns one size/shape/factor was promoted as being unique (bit like smoking and women-penis torches in the old days), yet the change of context alone was not enough to
Screw that, lets kill those guys (or offer them: stick it up your @$$, swallow it &... get lost, or die)

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Isn't that effectively one and the same?

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Ridicule a person who wronged your company vs talking about a product is the same only for fanbois of one or the other. Discussions on how faring of such product vs economical/financial reality of world outside US can influence/decide on the fate of the only thing that brought you here together is much more appreciated.

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to 2nd Szopin's post...
the spirit is pro-NOKIA, not pro-Flop (or whatever fecal matter he brought along...)
get it?

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if it's pro-NOKIA, you better support Window phones. You just put a foot in your mouth.

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Pro maemo here. :D

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In what way exactly? Apps? Specs? Features? I think the latest iPhone beats the lumia 900 by a country mile in all. Yes the UX philosophy is different but when it comes to ticking the boxes in those three areas the Lumia doesn't come close to the iPhone 4S.

what does that even mean, It is the same thing. People are ridiculing the person because of the product. If there were no reason to ridicule the product then there would be no reason to ridicule the person. If the product was any good then everybody would be celebrating its choice and maybe even agreeing with the title of this thread.

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Hello there neighbour, this is your South East Asia neighbour :D Android is popular here, but BB is hot in INA, from what I heard. ;)

The other aspects of Windows Phone, sales, etc,etc, we have discussed much until now dunno go which direction

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So that's the strategy for taking America by storm? Counting on users being bored with revolutionary devices? Sounds like a winner.

Disclosure: I'm in the U.S. and I have a Lumia 800. It's cute and it works well, but I close my eyes and I wish it was a Note running Ubuntu. You know, the proper evolution of the Nokia n800.

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dixit your favorite pooper...
(24-jun-2011)

versus
Nokia working on two low-end MeeGo smartphones
from a few days ago with nearly 80'000 hits in Google

the 808 PureView will sell in higher numbers on its own then all the NOKIA m$ devices together.
no matter how big they make them.

m$ is dead.
always have been & always will be in the phone arena, already lost most of the server market (except maybe exchange...) to GNU / Linux.
the only thing still holding them afloat is the LostDOS licenses consumers have to pay whenever they buy a PC & companies feel they have to keep buying, 'cuz that's what everybody uses, right?
give it another couple years & that will dry up too
and long before that Flop will be gone
and MeeGo... will be sold a billion times...

you have your whole leg down your throat :rolleyes:

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hi brotha

yes BB users at my country are biggest number in the world. I dunno why. But i never use any RIM product. And btw wp is big big fail from nokia, it seems like nokia brand doesnt help wp to grow at my country. :)

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No, it is possible to support Nokia with Symbian (Nokia 808, etc), Nokia N9, Meltemi and even Series 40 (which has a lot of features not found on... Windows Phone 7).

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Sorry, your vision is very short. I know a lot of people that :
- complain about lack of microSD, open Bluetooth, HDMI on iPhone/iPad;
- have not asked an iPhone as a gift, but a smartphone with mini-qwerty, open Bluetooth, etc, optimized to type & share.

Not everybody likes the limitations and the 2007's UI of iOS.

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http://sa.peteyproductions.net/saved...%20popcorn.gif

Please, continue!

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Yet another thread that has become a slanging match and lately has little bearing on the original theme... ffs...

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versus...

June 26th, 2011...
Nokia will not return to MeeGo even if N9 turns out to be a hit, says Stephen Elop

http://blog.gsmarena.com/nokia-will-...-stephen-elop/

From the article:
"In an interview with Finnish newspaper Helsingin Sanomat, Nokia CEO Stephen Elop confirmed that even if the N9 proves to be a massive success, there is no returning to MeeGo for Nokia. Nokia instead will be betting everything on Windows Phone 7 platform and Elop is confident that it will be well received."

OK.. now your reply to that? :)

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That was over 9 months ago. Plenty of time for reflection on Nokia/Elops part maybe...?

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i hate 'maybe'

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Maybe you do

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Nokia n9 was not a hit. Good first try, but not good enough. Does it have a potential, yes. But that is not enough. Apple usurped Nokia at it's game and nokia is left to join another ecosystem. I think the choice of MS is a good one. Resources are there and determination is there. Apple was left without it's leader and it will be interesting to see how Apple does creatively without Jobs. MS is a good software company. Lumia 800 is a good basic smartphone, and let's face it, so is N9. The lack of apps is a killer among young crowds. Young crowds love to show off games and new snazzy apps, and Apple wins. Nokia showed that they are NOT a software company. So forget Meego as a high end. It's not smooth, and it's not stable enough to succeed where it matters.

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N9 is superior than any wp, :)

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Nice!

On Release Date, Crucial Nokia Phone Is Hard to Buy in New York

:rolleyes:

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Prized at $100? What kind of contract?

Why pay $100? It's almost nothing.

Break it...

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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-B68htV-pAK...e-facepalm.jpg


Who else in their right mind would choose to launch their biggest product release of the year on the day when 70% of all stores are closed? Really what were they thinking. Was christmas day too far away?

I would like to hope that maybe someone wanted to create a false sense of demand for this product as that Article Title would suggest? However with watching how nokia has been handling their show for so long now, I would not have a hard time believing its yet another cock up in an endless cycle of cock ups.

Props to them getting to #5 on the amazon top 10 phones list though. They still have some way to go before they are up there with the kindles and iPhones in the electronics general list. Gotta wait and see I suppose.