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I have not seen a single advertisiment for Lumia 900. Walked by ATT store here in Pittsburgh, and no sight of Lumia. The only sighting was Samsung Note, iphones and ipads.........

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because no one is interested in it. they are just losing their money.

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But where are the advertisements????? This was supposed to be their push into the US market. ATT executives claim this was gonna be bigger than iphone.....LOOOOOL

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Quite likely ill never return to MeeGo but MeeGo project has been abandoned for something else, so lets see if Nokia brings in that something else as its OS.

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The deal you make is to pay $100... for a 2-year service contract. So yeah--go ahead and pay the $100 but you're stuck for TWO YEARS with what is already a pretty low-specifications device that might not even be able to run Windows Phone 8 (it hasn't been communicated that it can).

Also...
http://pleco.org/heh/betty_white.jpg

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I think you overlooked that final sentence: "Nokia instead will be betting everything on Windows Phone 7 platform and Elop is confident that it will be well received."

They're not interested in your hopes and interests.. Elop has gone all-in betting on a losing nag that already has an obvious bloody cough.

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nokia is m$ doll, lol, theyre lost their creativity and soul

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I don't understand the US carrier system but over here the Lumia 900 is not that competitively priced at all.

Lumia 900: £480
iPhone 4: £460

Which do they think most people will buy? I think even the most informed tech enthusiast will choose the iPhone 4.
My guess is that Nokia know that they cannot compete with other phones at this stage. They know the people buying their phones are mainly the people specifically looking for a Nokia or Windows Phone. Right now Nokia/MS are milking the brand loyalists for higher margins to make up for the lower numbers. Make no mistake the lumia 900 is a 2010 phone and I'm not saying that as an exaggeration or internet meme it literately is a phone with almost all its parts from 2010. This phone could have released back then. Snapdragon S2, Adreno 205 in 2012 is unheard of. Yet its pricing is higher than the higher spec iPhone 4, which some consider itself already overpriced.

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Thankfully, there's still hope:

Connection issues reported on some Nokia Lumia 900 smartphones

:eek:

* Easter release date explained

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You guys are all negative...but here are some good news:

http://wireless.amazon.com/customerr...ref=bs_cx_ph_1

http://www.gsmarena.com/lumia_900_fo...-news-4075.php

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You should read those reviews very closely. Here's a quote from one of my favorites:

"cons:
no skype, its even owned by ms."

Doh!

Besides the needless increase in size, one of the big differences between the 800 and the 900 is the front-facing camera. Why did they bother?

Nokia should have stuck it out on the Linux path [see Android, Google].

I love this:

"Best Sellers in Cell Phones With Service Plans"

Isn't the Lumia 900 free if you're a new AT&T customer? To most of us dumb Americans, it's a free f*ckin' phone!

Best Seller, dollars made: $0

And just askin', but how many people are buying "Cell Phones With Service Plans" directly from Amazon?

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Only focusing on the negatives. Cheer up!

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Read again, those two top Average user reviews are very well wriiten and sound suspiciously sound like sales hype, each echo the others points very very closely. They both claim to have owned multiple devices (many very recent models) and both are located in Denver US too.

Now I won't dismiss anyone for writing a very well thought out review but these two User Reviews do not follow the usual standard amazon comments of "THIS PHONE IS WINRAR!!!11one, I like the screen" ;)

http://wireless.amazon.com/customerr...ref=bs_cx_ph_1


As for the amazon top sellers list ... If the phone was released two days ago, and its sales have grown 394%, then numpty logic would dictate that they have only sold 394 handsets?

I think Lumiaman might be right, we are becoming too negative ;)

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A recently released hyped device temporarily tops amazon near release day and gets reviewed, not surprised.

look at where it is now and what is currently on top:
http://wireless.amazon.com/186-7426678-5063539

Reminds me of the same thing pro-Nokia/WP people pushed for the 800, "800 tops sales charts, doing great", "great customer reviews" when in reality it is not out of the ordinary for a recently released device to do so for a short time near release. In reality it held that spot for 2 days near launch in specific stores. Now look at the Lumia 800 sales and look at its review score on amazon. Do you honestly believe the hype you post?

Besides this is only good news because you seem to be a Nokia supporter but what good is it to me that it temporarily topped the charts? or that somebody who has recently invested a lot of money or 2 years in a device gives it a review which is not out of the ordinary. It's clear that people would justify their purchase especially those who review so soon after purchase, it's the norm for any expensive device. Not to mention that after the Belkin scandal I don't give reviews on Amazon that much weight anyway especially when I read their reasons.

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I'm now since a couple days in the US and even though I'm not a fan of Nokia's windows plans, I'm really disappointed that nobody knows about the Lumia 900 and there isn't a single advertisement (even in TV). I'm not in LA or NY, but in a city with +1.5Mio habitants. But I will keep looking for that phone though :)

The reaction on my MeeGo device was wonderful though. People also didn't know it at all, but were very interested in seeing something that isn't Android or iPhone. In Europe I don't really get big reactions when I take my N9 out of the pocket, but here pretty much all the time I've been ask "What phone is that???". I generally think Americans look much more at their phone (text more instead of calling, look things up etc...)

A guy I met at a meeting used to work for Apple till 2 years ago and was deeply involved in the hole iPhone project (doesn't work there anymore because of working conditions). I was surprised he didn't know the N9 (heard about Nokia using a Linux device(s) but thats all) but even ask me to send him one, once I'm back home ;)

What Nokia does really well is, to provide such a good navigation software. I realized that Americans are so dependent on GPS since street signs are not as clear or just completely missing. My phone could already help out pretty well and I got asked "what app I'm using and if it wouldn't be very expensive to buy such a navigation app".
The Lumia-advertiser should maybe focus a bit more on that... (at least I think the Lumia Drive app works similar to the N9 one).

Well all in all, Nokia presence is unfortunately = 0 but interest is here (at least in MeeGo)

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who wanna be an
american idiot

fail

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The only reason I might consider a lumia 900 would be if there was some software like VMware so I could run linux on top! But 512MB ram is going even further backwards in time...

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As much as I could conspiracy theory all day long, I'm doing my best to stick to the facts. I read enough Engadget comments to believe that every Microsoft employee is a shill.

You don't think negative Windows Phone talk cheers me up?

A kind of, sort of positive:

TouchDevelop

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Even if they sell anything, its a success for NOKIA. There is currently ZERO Nokia presence in the US.

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And they have Microsoft's billion dollars. Score!

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...ve-Ste-007.jpg

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LOL that is Elops master plan gain 0.003% of the US market. lose the rest of the world live on dumbphones and MS money. Nokia wont have to spend a dollar on R&D.

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There is still time to join a Bible study group. Humility is a good virtue.

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http://sammyhub.com/2012/03/28/galax...million-units/

Samsung will rule the smartphone world the next year's. Even the its not a smartphone its not a tablet selling very well. To bad n9 or lumia 900 don't have that formfactor.

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As Nokia was staring at the iPhone, Samsung snuck up from behind and wacked them in the back of the head.

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have been waiting and seeing nothing from m$ phone wise for a long time, haven't we? :D :rolleyes:
why should that change?
'cuz the most laugh at manufacturer decided to doom itself with it?
how would that work out?

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it's called market equilibrium...
when a product is not sought after (demand low), price falls :D
for mobile phones, there is usually an initial period during which the price to pay, even with a contract, is higher (new products, bleeding edge and what not...)
then, as ppl get used to the product, other products with comparable or better features come out, the prices fall...

apparently, here, they didn't even bother with the initial phase ¦-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

as you pointed out yourself, the products technology is pretty much from yesteryear, the design looked cute a year ago or so, when it was 1st seen with the N9 and, well.... NOKIA
NOKIA?
:eek: :rolleyes:

EDIT: with that combo, it will take a miracle for Lumia 900 not to fail :p

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This thread should be in Competitors (?), not Off Topic.

Please move it there. Thank you.

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There's nothing better than a ringing endorsement from ars technica.

The Nokia Lumia 900: A good phone at a great price that you probably shouldn't buy

:)

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Who wrote that article? My 9 year old writes better than that. There are many positive articles on Lumia 900 and you choose this illiterate piece.

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lumiaman is m$ volunteer, loooooool

poor man

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Blows me away that many people are calling that ugly. Programmed to idolize slabs only, it seems.

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Peter Bright

Sure

It was on the front page of ars technica; it's not as if I went looking for it.

You should quit while you're behind.

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I think it looks nice but that curve with the sharp edge is not very practical in a pocket.

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Well, it DOES have a sort of late 70's retro ugly style to it that might appeal to some of us older people that were kids back then. :) I kinda like it too but I can see why it might come off as ugly these days.

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And who are you?
A pathetic little brainwashed fanboy, writing from behind a monitor, who does nothing else than harassing with idiotic comments the people who try to discuss and bring some arguments to the thread.
Your greatest contribution was "Nokia is ms *****", really interesting thought, thanks! As I said, a poop-throwing gibbon would do better than you, and in a better english. Because like all fanboys you fight your crusade without listening to anything or anyone, you just spit out the few words you were taught. Because like all fanboys, you have really nothing to say. Because like all fanboys, you don't think.
I guess you would willingly rush into a Microsoft store and blow yourself up, taking all those misbelievers with you, if misterc or someone else from this thread asked you to do so.
That's how pathetic you are.

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It's way beyond ugly.

And what kind of case/cover would be able to accomodate that wierd shape - a simple bag?

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Yes. I, a satisfied N9 user, am a troll because I don't talk **** about WP7 and Microsoft like you want. Bring it on.

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WP is gaining momentum. Maybe too slow, but definitely gaining. In numbers Nokia has sold millions of wp phones. The market share is still small, but it is mainly due to the smartphone revolution.

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lumia needs some good press in this thread as well.

http://www.gsmarena.com/lumia_900_fo...-news-4075.php

I'm not into the lumia 900 but I like see the phone at the top of the list. We need more phones,OSes and vendors! not fewer.