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optimistprime 2012-03-12 19:31

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So just because some people had micro usb port problems with their n900's, i guess they were fakes too? Quality of product and production errors happen and dont mean they are fake items. If you believe that,then the next time you have a paint chip on your auto, you should try to return it for an "authentic" one.

specc 2012-03-12 19:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1178541)
What part of "I have a Finnish N9 that's peeling" do you have a problem reading?

The part that say it is your USB-LATCH that is peeling. I don't have a problem with it to be honest, but where is the relevance?

jalyst 2012-03-12 19:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by specc (Post 1178554)
The part that say it is your USB-LATCH that is peeling. I don't have a problem with it to be honest, but where is the relevance?

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=114

gerbick 2012-03-12 20:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by specc (Post 1178554)
The part that say it is your USB-LATCH that is peeling. I don't have a problem with it to be honest, but where is the relevance?

And that USB latch is connected to what?

My Nokia N9... just in case you didn't know. I'm awaiting the chipping around the camera next. Just like the OP.

It's ok. I'm a fan of wabi-sabi... as long as it works and I can clean the screen.

specc 2012-03-12 20:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1178572)

- and your point is what exactly?

sillieidiot 2012-03-12 20:15

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guys chill. specc is just saying that because the usb hatch/latch/door (whatever you want to call it) is not made out of PC, that chipping in that area does mean anything. heck it should be expected that it will chip/wear off because it's painted on (since it's made out of metal). it's the chipping on the PC body that is more important.

and i guess so far there hasn't been a reported MIF N9 with chipping on the body.

i don't think the ones that are chipping are fakes though tbh.

jalyst 2012-03-12 20:16

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My point is re-read what he said :)

specc 2012-03-13 19:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1178599)
My point is re-read what he said :)

As pointed out by others as well, mr gerbick dude is only going on and on about the USB latch. That piece is not made of polycarbonate, clearly it is irrelevant to this discussion.

So what exactly is your point except being irrelevant?

jalyst 2012-03-13 19:43

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In that post I pointed to, & even in this most recent post...
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=124
He's quite clearly indicated that he's getting chipping/peeling "elsewhere".

Grazy 2012-03-13 21:55

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I got my from Denmark (64GB black), its kept in the case and so far no pealing! but i have found the PC gets greased up easily, especially the usb latch! its now a greasy looking black which doesn't wipe keep. The main phone body is ok but it has a few darker black marks at the top and bottom of the screen which again i cannot remove.

I often use 100% ethanol to wipe the phone down to clean it and like i say so far so good! I am a little worried though!

I don't think these effected phones are fake, but maybe batch related issues? I cant see why Nokia wouldn't replace under warranty.

uzernamezz 2012-03-14 05:58

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I got it on my SIM tray after i accidentally dropped the tray itself while chaning SIMs
Tiny, but noticable.

willywonka 2012-03-14 06:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1177887)
IME no matter what phone you're using, no matter the OS, no matter the forum...
The vast majority of chatter will be people having problems or not happy with some aspect.
It's just the way people operate.....

However, it is true that there's quite a few bugs that are yet to be resolved, or have only just cropped-up thanks to 1.2.
Now that Nokia's winding down the amount of features they're adding, they can focus mainly on getting bugs squished.
Unfortunately they can't treat both as equally important anymore, as the team has shrunk hugely since this time last yr.

Also that lag is normal, once clean-up & re-indexing is done it'll disappear...
Generally it's only a few minutes following the first boot-up....
But it can vary hugely depending on the size of your media library, & other personal data.

thanks for responding. how do you clean up and re-index the phone?

willywonka 2012-03-14 06:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maemomd (Post 1177709)
Relax, you can wrap your phone, for lagginess, clear the cache, and make sure you are on pr 1.2. Lots of very cool stuff in store for the future of this phone. :)

hmm. wrap my phone???

how do you clear the cache?

thanks for the assurance anyway!

Silwer 2012-03-14 08:49

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I have Finnish made black 64gb n9 that was bought from official Nokia representative and what is for sure original. Unfortunately I have dropped the phone and damaged the shell a little. I can confirm that shell is covered with some sort of lacquer or paint that has started to peal off from damaged places. It is hardly noticeable but it is there.

Nosph3ratu 2012-03-14 08:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by willywonka (Post 1179200)

how do you clear the cache?

The Drop Cache app from the ovi store is able to.

sillieidiot 2012-03-14 10:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1179016)
In that post I pointed to, & even in this most recent post...
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=124
He's quite clearly indicated that he's getting chipping/peeling "elsewhere".

In that post, i honestly don't see where he says it's chipping elsewhere. First line he is just pointing out that the latch is attached to the mif n9. The second line just states that he is waiting for it to peel in another spot (like the camera area). so it hasn't happened yet.

optimistprime 2012-03-14 15:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Silwer (Post 1179235)
I have Finnish made black 64gb n9 that was bought from official Nokia representative and what is for sure original. Unfortunately I have dropped the phone and damaged the shell a little. I can confirm that shell is covered with some sort of lacquer or paint that has started to peal off from damaged places. It is hardly noticeable but it is there.


Thanks for this post! Now we have one report that an "OFFICIAL" Finnish made N9 has evidence of peeling. Now how would one be able to refute that?

Maemomd 2012-03-14 18:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by willywonka (Post 1179200)
hmm. wrap my phone???

how do you clear the cache?

thanks for the assurance anyway!

Wrap it:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...03#post1176103

Drop Cache and QAD Cleaner are your best friends to take away any lag, or reboot your phone. I reboot every night before charging, did so with the n900 as well, no lag, nothing, even on pr1.2. :)

Edit: Twitter eats up alot of cache, FYI

jalyst 2012-03-14 18:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by willywonka (Post 1179199)
thanks for responding. how do you clean up and re-index the phone?

I was referring to the automatic process that occurs just after a major upgrade.

jalyst 2012-03-14 18:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sillieidiot (Post 1179259)
In that post, i honestly don't see where he says it's chipping elsewhere. First line he is just pointing out that the latch is attached to the mif n9. The second line just states that he is waiting for it to peel in another spot (like the camera area). so it hasn't happened yet.

Certainly read that way to me, but if it hasn't then that's great news.
Few posts above someone has had it, but that's only because they've initially damaged the body.

Maemomd 2012-03-14 18:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by optimistprime (Post 1179374)
Thanks for this post! Now we have one report that an "OFFICIAL" Finnish made N9 has evidence of peeling. Now how would one be able to refute that?

All of the phones have the same manufacturing process, confirmed by my nokia colleagues, finnish or chinese. The polymer is covered with a finish, which is expected, it is matte, while the white is glossy. If there is a a gash/scratch, the inside of the polymer is at least black, but the finish will not be there. I mentioned on the thread I posted in my above post, that any finish can get ruined if not maintained correctly, unfortunately. Wear and tear ruins everything, unfotunately. When I received my N9 in the mail, I immediately saw that the usb hatch was a definite vulnerability, so when I wrapped my phone, I put an extra piece of plastic over where I press on the latch to open in order to charge, so far so good. Photos of the wrap are on the post above to 'willywonka'. Casing a phone can have its issues as well, rubbing the phone, and if it is not airtight (which no case is), the debris will scratch it up as well.

Now, probably the only phone out there with a very strong finish is the HTC One S, which has been prepped with 10,000 volts to strengthen its metal casing, enough that it is the only phone that does not need a wrap or casing.

http://gizmodo.com/5893139/watch-htc...gh-their-phone

Very cool, but Nokia went a different way, which is also cool, but still, EVERY phone has a delicate finish, my N900 included as well, which was a tank, but my wife's, she put in her purse uncased/unwrapped, and it was a mess after 2 weeks, no dropping, just with the crap in her purse. No phone is invulnerable, and it is not shotty workmanship, unless it is cased like the One S...which I bet I could find a way to ruin a well (put it in my wife's purse haha)

This 'specc' character is trolling all of you at this point, best to put him on 'ignore', report him, and call it a day. If he is banned eventually from this community, he can go somewhere else to troll, and not get any help with his N9.

eres 2012-03-14 18:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cm6 (Post 1177271)
Alright, yesterday I got a Lumia 800 for trial, which meant I had to compare it with my 4-month-old N9. So I removed the rubber cover & I found this.

(images removed)

The matte layer has indeed worn off. How? It's my own fault because I hadn't removed the cover since a few months and it definitely hasn't coped well with the sweat and heat while inside my pocket (I live in a country with a very warm weather).

Clearly, Nokia haven't tested it under this extreme weather condition. :(

I do not live in a country with a warm weather, and we had even -30C this winter but my N9 looks similar to yours. I removed soft cover last week after 5 months. Disappointed.

eres 2012-03-14 19:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by specc (Post 1174022)
Seems to me there are lots of fake stuff out there, and that include USB/SIM covers. But, each N9 is delivered with a rubber protective case that fits like a glow, gives excellent grip, looks nice and really do protect the device. Why not use it?

because after 5 months of soft cover usage your original phone will look like this:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...1&postcount=90

eres 2012-03-14 19:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Audrius (Post 1177772)
My n9's back used to look the same every time I took it out of the case, but that would just wipe off easily. I don't use the case anymore, but it still gets like that sometimes when my hands a greasy, but it's still easy to wipe it off.

how do you wipe it off?
it is impossible on my phone... do you use any detergent?

Lumiaman 2012-03-14 19:44

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My son, who has cyan N9, and regularly abuses his phone, has not a single peeling site. Phone is 3 months old now, made in china

mece 2012-03-14 19:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1179512)
My son, who has cyan N9, and regularly abuses his phone, has not a single peeling site. Phone is 3 months old now, made in china

The problem has only been reported on black N9's AFAICT. I guess the white one could potentially have the problem though, since it has a special coating. It's different from the black one though, so might have a different reaction.

specc 2012-03-14 20:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by optimistprime (Post 1179374)
Thanks for this post! Now we have one report that an "OFFICIAL" Finnish made N9 has evidence of peeling. Now how would one be able to refute that?

Nonsense. "Confirmations" about the housing being covered with some paint or lacquer is indeed false. It is covered with a hardened layer of transparent polycarbonate.

Besides, he might as well hit his phone with a hammer. I am sure that will make some cracks amongst other things. Running over it by a tank will probably also have similar effect. Being made in Finland makes you tough, but not indestructible.

The OP showed pictures of a peeling N9 for no apparent reason, and it was only a couple of weeks old. My N9 is now 5 1/2 months old. No peeling of any kind, and I use it every single day.

optimistprime 2012-03-14 20:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maemomd (Post 1179483)
All of the phones have the same manufacturing pr


This 'specc' character is trolling all of you at this point, best to put him on 'ignore', report him, and call it a day. If he is banned eventually from this community, he can go somewhere else to troll, and not get any help with his N9.

I totally agree. Perhaps he can troll in an apple forum somewhere. There are plenty of similar "kirf" products that he can moan about there.

specc 2012-03-14 21:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by optimistprime (Post 1179526)
I totally agree. Perhaps he can troll in an apple forum somewhere. There are plenty of similar "kirf" products that he can moan about there.

LOL :D Who is trolling here? People who makes up all kind of nonsense because they have got a phone from a bad batch or a fake? or people like me who has a genuine black N9 from the very first batches with no faults, peeling or cracking whatsoever? Just wondering :rolleyes:

misterc 2012-03-14 21:40

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«a picture says more then 1000 words...»
leave alone posts on a forum ¦-)))
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=RqxYiXtzKd0
i only watched it quickly but didn't notice any "cowering" or painting...

UCOMM 2012-03-14 21:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maemomd (Post 1179483)

Now, probably the only phone out there with a very strong finish is the HTC One S, which has been prepped with 10,000 volts to strengthen its metal casing, enough that it is the only phone that does not need a wrap or casing.

http://gizmodo.com/5893139/watch-htc...gh-their-phone

its magic!!! its an old process, nothing new, for example same process is used in some higher end citizen watches, and they end up with scratches just fine.

misterc 2012-03-14 22:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by UCOMM (Post 1179563)
its magic!!! its an old process, nothing new, for example same process is used in some higher end citizen watches, and they end up with scratches just fine.

[off-topic]
there is a material based on tungsten- and titanium-carbide that offers that feature (scratch proofness).
it comes with the down side that the casings are more prone to splitting if they drop on (or hit violently against) hard surfaces...
[/off-topic]

legoman666 2012-03-14 23:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by specc (Post 1179525)
Nonsense. "Confirmations" about the housing being covered with some paint or lacquer is indeed false. It is covered with a hardened layer of transparent polycarbonate.

Besides, he might as well hit his phone with a hammer. I am sure that will make some cracks amongst other things. Running over it by a tank will probably also have similar effect. Being made in Finland makes you tough, but not indestructible.

The OP showed pictures of a peeling N9 for no apparent reason, and it was only a couple of weeks old. My N9 is now 5 1/2 months old. No peeling of any kind, and I use it every single day.

My N9 is 5 months old. Not a couple weeks. Keep on trollin'.

specc 2012-03-15 01:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by legoman666 (Post 1179587)
My N9 is 5 months old. Not a couple weeks. Keep on trollin'.

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...1&postcount=13

Yea, keep on trollin' (not two weeks, I was wrong. Within the first week)

Maemomd 2012-03-15 01:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by UCOMM (Post 1179563)
its magic!!! its an old process, nothing new, for example same process is used in some higher end citizen watches, and they end up with scratches just fine.

Yeah, have seen it on those watches as well. I guess anything is scratchable, especially in my wife's purse.

legoman666 2012-03-15 01:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by specc (Post 1179620)
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...1&postcount=13

Yea, keep on trollin' (not two weeks, I was wrong. Within the first week)

I am the OP, not coomac.

jaeezzy 2012-03-24 23:12

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Ok now its starting to piss me off... Had tiny bit chippin on the SIM holder but it has gone up quit a bit to make it look bad but the main thing is it started with one crack between main camera and led but now i noticed that there are three - circling around the main camera and even worst the first crack now has that chipping. Also what I noticed is that on the area where these cracks are, the whole portion looks a bit raised (swollen like) like as if the coat around that area is coming loose due to lack of stickiness...I'm thinking of reporting it to Nokia care but they are bit far from where I live and not sure they willl cover this within the warranty..

specc 2012-03-25 00:10

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The solution is here. Original (hopefully) Nokia N9 housing incl antennas etc.

afaq 2012-03-25 00:24

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So what do we have left now? we argued that Nokia made great hardware - exceptional in fact - the best. Sure Meego/Harmattan/Maemo was "dead" but we had a great piece of hardware that was the envy of the industry.

Someone needs to throw their peeling N9 on ..whats that guys name who talked about the great design and the ethos that Nokia put into their devices...and someone find that youtube video of the stress tests.

All BS.

gerbick 2012-03-25 00:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by afaq (Post 1183755)
So what do we have left now?

All BS.

I disagree. It was all business. Learn from this and we'll have to start seeing companies for what they truly are... P.T. Barnum's selling snake oil to all that are willing to believe it.


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