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jonnyl 2012-04-02 04:09

Re: Why do people say MeeGo is dead?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1187047)
Nah. I am surprised they tolerate your diatribes. You are just depressed that you don't have N9 in your hands

Well when the response is touting some OS with a Playskool looking homescreen, with over-designed, enlarged text forming some ridiculous Panoramic-centric UI which really just seems like sloppy run-on UI design. Looks hideous on a small screen (sigh, portrait), not that bad on a tablet/computer. Though combine WP with out of date specs controlled by Microsoft, then we'll probably tolerate hyperbole for our OS/UI design that is a drastic change in interaction and tries new paradigms.

I seriously hope Android steals Swype (or really a close continuation of how WebOS did things), since it really is paradigm shifting.

Every time I pick up an iPhone (.. which is more often than I care to admit) or even my N8 I want to slam my phone down every time I have to revert to using a physical button.

Forget about WP, I want to throw up every time I see the homescreen.

jonnyl 2012-04-02 04:12

Re: Why do people say MeeGo is dead?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hotnikkelz (Post 1187064)
They both have merits and they both have flaws. N9 is way more flexible...it seems that if you get an OS that's flexible, you sacrifice some smoothness and reliability heh

I don't know what the reliability thing is about. PR1.1 and 1.2 really helped with that, but the only major bug I had was that account settings not being remembered, which was solved by a re-flash. Smoothness.. well I'd say for the most part its smooth, when I start hammering the CPU then yeah, but I don't mind that if it means true multitasking. I just wish the N9 came with a dual CPU, but that would also mean a larger battery requirement.

If they ever do manage to build another Maemo/Meego phone, it would be cool if they created a higher clocked core with a lower clocked core and offload (affinity) most of the system/UI tasks to the lower core and shut off the higher core when not needed. Maybe lots o' ram so more stuff can be stuffed in RAM and not reside on "disk" :)

danramos 2012-04-02 07:43

Re: Why do people say MeeGo is dead?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1187047)
Nah. I am surprised they tolerate your diatribes. You are just depressed that you don't have N9 in your hands

http://www.woosk.com/wp-content/uplo...5;-venture.png

Do I sound depressed? Because I'm really not--and I regret that you've misinterpreted my feelings on the matter. heheh Derp. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonnyl (Post 1187069)
If they ever do manage to build another Maemo/Meego phone...

Ah! Stop right there. :)

almamo 2012-04-02 10:44

Re: Why do people say MeeGo is dead?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jonnyl (Post 1187069)
I don't know what the reliability thing is about. PR1.1 and 1.2 really helped with that, but the only major bug I had was that account settings not being remembered, which was solved by a re-flash. Smoothness.. well I'd say for the most part its smooth, when I start hammering the CPU then yeah, but I don't mind that if it means true multitasking. I just wish the N9 came with a dual CPU, but that would also mean a larger battery requirement.

....


Yes many of those annoying bugs got fixed with PR 1.2. I would say this update brought the N9 in many ways to another level. I actually would even say that the N9 was not 100% market ready before PR 1.2. But as we know its Nokia (always need some more time...), the development team has been e(f)loped (reduced), and every new platform generally needs its time.

I'm quiet happy that the N9 doesn't have a duel-core CPU. I honestly don't know how big the impact of such a stronger CPU is on the battery life. But what I can say is, that battery life on the N9 is absolutely stunning. With previous smartphones I always was worried to barely make it through the day (I use them quiet heavy, especially with international internet calls). The N9 stays "alive" without problems for at least 1.5 days (and more if I turn it off at night) with Skype constantly being on, browsing, twitter, facebook and usage of other apps...

The only functions I reduced to a minimum are email-sync (once a day auto-sync and otherwise manually) and my feeds-screen only shows some RSS and videos of my youtube account.

What may also save some battery are notifications on the stand-by screen. Since f.e iPhones or WP come with a dead-standby screen where you constantly have to wake the screen up to see notifications - this might consume quiet some battery, thinking of how often people do that per day.

So yes, dual-core would be nice - but if it really affects battery life like some people claim, then I'm totally happy without that.

mikecomputing 2012-04-10 17:32

Re: Why do people say MeeGo is dead?
 
sick and tired of smartphone war anyway.

I just readed about upcoming S40 devices and realised also those ****ing rumors about upcoming Meltemi devices is plain wrong.

Its only lowend S40 devices who doesnt even have Qt support. WTF!? So what the **** did happens to Nokias billion strategy and Qt?

Yes I know Qt is alive and kicking but no company is using it except some FOSS related companys like raspberry PI and some upcoming KDE tablet. I personally will buy both PI and KDE tablet but still its NOT enought...

Nokia just make me pissed. Also those Android fanboyish in this damn forum. You guys have to realise Android sucks also bigtime and Google is just another evilcompany like Microsoft.

I want Qt as an european alternative but right now its just TALK! TALK TALK TALK!!! but no devices using it :( Except some ****ing broken Symbian Belle **** devices. Only one good device is using Qt and that is N9 but whom will write apps for N9 in the long run when ashole company doesnt support it!?

Ashbeck 2012-04-10 20:20

Re: Why do people say MeeGo is dead?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1187029)
Its real fun watching N9 fan boyism get in the way of objectivity. The beautiful thing is the choice we all have. I enjoy using different platforms and personally think that iPhone is still the best as sales and its popularity show. It is however boring to be me too crowd. So yes, we all want to be a little different and show off something unique and new. I thought N9 was going to be it. Sadly its not.

If you like your lumia. do what makes you happy mate. dont worry about people around you. I like the lumia as well but for me. The little things are important and there are things i dislike about the lumia. Do what makes you happy and if you beleive your device is the best in the world. It is-- because its yours. So dont worry.

The thing people need to realise is that you need to stop trying to step on other to make yourself happy and fill your ego. I say this for everyone. Me included. Android is not the best. Nor is meego, nor is windows phone. They are strong in their own right, windows phone is fast, android is customisable, meego is open and iphone is simple. You guys need to stop trying to fill your ego saying this one is best and this one is not(everyone).

if you guys are saying windows phone or nokia is so rubbish, why do you keep attacking it? Everyone knows you dont kick a dead dog,

peoples say microsoft is stupid, then why do you use hotmail then? Peoples say nokia is stupid, then why are you guys so interested in it? Do what makes you happy, share experiences. BuT dont take your ego of a holiday guys, it's getting childish now.

My systems is better bla bla bla rubbish... Does google give you a share of the profit?
Hmmm.....

Dave999 2012-04-10 20:55

Re: Why do people say MeeGo is dead?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1190482)
sick and tired of smartphone war anyway.

I just readed about upcoming S40 devices and realised also those ****ing rumors about upcoming Meltemi devices is plain wrong.

Its only lowend S40 devices who doesnt even have Qt support. WTF!? So what the **** did happens to Nokias billion strategy and Qt?

Yes I know Qt is alive and kicking but no company is using it except some FOSS related companys like raspberry PI and some upcoming KDE tablet. I personally will buy both PI and KDE tablet but still its NOT enought...

Nokia just make me pissed. Also those Android fanboyish in this damn forum. You guys have to realise Android sucks also bigtime and Google is just another evilcompany like Microsoft.

I want Qt as an european alternative but right now its just TALK! TALK TALK TALK!!! but no devices using it :( Except some ****ing broken Symbian Belle **** devices. Only one good device is using Qt and that is N9 but whom will write apps for N9 in the long run when ashole company doesnt support it!?

Any why do you think noone using Qt for new devices?

Dave999 2012-04-10 21:02

Re: Why do people say MeeGo is dead?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashbeck (Post 1190519)
If you like your lumia. do what makes you happy mate. dont worry about people around you. I like the lumia as well but for me. The little things are important and there are things i dislike about the lumia. Do what makes you happy and if you beleive your device is the best in the world. It is-- because its yours. So dont worry.

The thing people need to realise is that you need to stop trying to step on other to make yourself happy and fill your ego. I say this for everyone. Me included. Android is not the best. Nor is meego, nor is windows phone. They are strong in their own right, windows phone is fast, android is customisable, meego is open and iphone is simple. You guys need to stop trying to fill your ego saying this one is best and this one is not(everyone).

if you guys are saying windows phone or nokia is so rubbish, why do you keep attacking it? Everyone knows you dont kick a dead dog,

peoples say microsoft is stupid, then why do you use hotmail then? Peoples say nokia is stupid, then why are you guys so interested in it? Do what makes you happy, share experiences. BuT dont take your ego of a holiday guys, it's getting childish now.

My systems is better bla bla bla rubbish... Does google give you a share of the profit?
Hmmm.....

It's because all people think they are better than average. Think they know better than others. Wars starting because of this so why not threads and posts in this forum ;)

specc 2012-04-10 21:08

Re: Why do people say MeeGo is dead?
 
Another reason why MeeGo is dead:
http://www.gsmarena.com/lumia_900_fo...-news-4075.php

- and why Nokia isn't..

Ashbeck 2012-04-10 21:16

Re: Why do people say MeeGo is dead?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck Norris (Post 1190526)
It's because all people think they are better than average. Think they know better than others. Wars starting because of this so why not threads and posts in this forum ;)

Wars have a clear objective... Eg. To steal oil. but i mean we all are fans of things but i believe imo that when you defending something which has holes and are bad yet(you cannot stand up and say. Yes you are right. This does need improving) acting like a bigshot its stupid. I mean if hardcore fanboyism say google. Nokia or microsoft were adding somemoney why not. But people are getting on like ijustine and her apple fangirl trash. Which i enjoy every now and then


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