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marmistrz 2012-05-16 11:47

Re: Council election is RUNNING! 16th - 23th May 2012
 
I have a question to the council candidates:

What do you think about integrating (exchanging among platforms) apps from various platforms, e.g. Harmattan, maybe in the future Meltemi, so that e.g. N900 user would be able to use the Harmattan/Meltemi apps. What would be your plan, which way of approaching this do you propose (chroot, dual-boot, porting libs, ...) where would be Nokia's place in your plan? Do you think it's needed or do you think the apps already there are enough?

Estel 2012-05-16 12:14

Re: Council election is RUNNING! 16th - 23th May 2012
 
I think it isn't in Council's scope at all - it's question for developers. Chroot doesn't apply here, and You can achieve it by promoting targeting multiple platform @ stage of program creation.

Community OBS shared with Mer and Harmattan helps here for sure - for some programs, compiling for another OS will be just a matter of setting different target.

/Estel

nieldk 2012-05-16 12:32

Re: Council election is RUNNING! 16th - 23th May 2012
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1207353)
I think it isn't in Council's scope at all - it's question for developers. Chroot doesn't apply here, and You can achieve it by promoting targeting multiple platform @ stage of program creation.

Community OBS shared with Mer and Harmattan helps here for sure - for some programs, compiling for another OS will be just a matter of setting different target.

/Estel

HEAR :) This is not (and not needed to be) a council decision.
All though community shared OBS may promote similar, like Estel points out.

leon.anavi 2012-05-16 15:16

Re: Council election is RUNNING! 16th - 23th May 2012
 
I've just gave my vote. Hope that the future and the new council will bring success to the whole community.

Jaffa 2012-05-16 15:32

Re: Council election
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SD69 (Post 1207326)
According to the wiki page history, the asterisk was put next to my name by General Antilles on April 9

Probably because, as Estel says, the Council didn't do it itself and you've been the only active member. Why are you objecting to it so much?

Quote:

[...] who edits MWKN news along with Jaffa, who has also recently taken to making negative comments against me.
Blimey. It's nothing personal it's just, to be honest, this Council's performance has been crap. I'm actually surprised you accepted the nomination.

Sure, you were the only one which was active, but that doesn't excuse:
  • the failure to select a chair
  • the failure to put your photos up on the council homepage, so your constituents can recognise you as people (both for reasons of professionalism but also at conferences etc.)
  • the failure to on consistently communicate with the community, including about the election
  • the worsening of relationships with Nemein (yes, the fault lies on both sides)
  • the farcical organisation of the election.

...and, above all, the failure to ask for help.

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I hope this mistake is coincidence as it would be first time people have resorted to sleazy tactics against a candidate who has volunteered much time to maemo.
For the record: I don't want to be sleazy, or back-handed. I think you're a nice guy, I just don't think you were cut out for this facilitation role in the last council. However, I'm sure you'll get re-elected, so perhaps you could look at these as potential areas of improvement?

If nothing else, perhaps the incoming council could look in the list above as the minimum to get right?

GeneralAntilles 2012-05-16 15:34

Re: Council election
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SD69 (Post 1207326)
According to the wiki page history, the asterisk was put next to my name by General Antilles on April 9, who edits MWKN news along with Jaffa, who has also recently taken to making negative comments against me. I hope this mistake is coincidence as it would be first time people have resorted to sleazy tactics against a candidate who has volunteered much time to maemo.

What happened to assuming good faith?

Your edit to add the current council resulted in the removal of a whole council from the list. Assuming it was an underhanded and sleazy tactic to erase the history of the current council's predecessors wasn't something that occurred to me.

Also: I'm sorry for the confusion that's been caused.

nieldk 2012-05-16 15:54

Re: Council election is RUNNING! 16th - 23th May 2012
 
Perhaps we should watch the tone here.
At least as current nominees, and not least, current council members, we need to be the 'father to look up to' (sorry, dont know a better translation).
I thank Estel and Jaffa though for their remarks, its valuable notice and definately something for the new council to note and be aware of.
It is NOT just a 'title of honour' that should make the council, but a board of people that live to make this a better community for especially all the brilliant developers here.

ivgalvez 2012-05-16 17:38

Re: Council election is RUNNING! 16th - 23th May 2012
 
Do you think that a picture is a requirement? Really?

Please keep calm, I think we all share a common interest and for the sake of the community let's try to focus on it, instead of arguing.

ajalkane 2012-05-16 18:19

Re: Council election is RUNNING! 16th - 23th May 2012
 
Ah damn, I would have liked to vote, but hadn't realized the 3 month guarantee rule.

My mistake, next year then. May the best council persons win :-).

joerg_rw 2012-05-16 18:27

Re: Council election is RUNNING! 16th - 23th May 2012
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ivgalvez (Post 1207503)
Do you think that a picture is a requirement? Really?

Well, probably it's up to you - as is to include a photo to your CV for a job application. And I for one will make my choice in this vote much the same way I'd do for somebody applying for a job at my company. "No Picture? Let's see if next one is less ugly..."

Honestly I'd feel embarrassed not to comply with what's been best practice for those councils that were earlier and of course better than me.
Or simply put: look http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council and guess.
But no, actually the statutes don't ask for a picture.

/j


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