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Faustino 2012-04-20 03:11
Re: Nokia on the brink of failure
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by daperl (Post 1194462)
Good? No

Painful? Yes

This guy had Steve Jobs reality distortion c*ck up his a*s.
Everything related to Maemo was pretty much spot on, whether we like to admit it or not, Apple made a great product that only has to evolve every year or so.

Nokia are chasing their tail at the moment.. they still continue to bring out and develop new phones that although mostly have excellent build quality, they lack something. They need to concentrate on just a few products and do it right.

The iPod was arguably the best invention of the last 10/15 years, it's what people associate with music now. Grouping it together with a phone was always going to be a winner.

What do Nokia give us in their phones? Some crumby music player that can't even achieve gapless playback.

It's the small details like that which means it will always come second to their competitors.

danested 2012-04-20 03:31
Re: Nokia on the brink of failure
 
The iPod was a really good invention, yes. The iPhone was brilliant too. But nokia did make some of the best mobile phones in their time. Right now it seems to be between android and iPhone. And Elop rules the roost at nokia.

daperl 2012-04-20 04:10
Re: Nokia on the brink of failure
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Faustino (Post 1194710)
Everything related to Maemo was pretty much spot on, whether we like to admit it or not, Apple made a great product that only has to evolve every year or so.

Nokia are chasing their tail at the moment.. they still continue to bring out and develop new phones that although mostly have excellent build quality, they lack something. They need to concentrate on just a few products and do it right.

The iPod was arguably the best invention of the last 10/15 years, it's what people associate with music now. Grouping it together with a phone was always going to be a winner.

What do Nokia give us in their phones? Some crumby music player that can't even achieve gapless playback.

It's the small details like that which means it will always come second to their competitors.
I agree, I retract what I said before. He updated his article at the bottom, and everything after his initial smartphone rant is basically spot on.

So no, I no longer think he was violated by Steve Jobs. My bad; good article.

Faustino 2012-04-20 04:28
Re: Nokia on the brink of failure
 
I have a slight urge to try out the Samsung Galaxy Note, but i'm afraid if i do, i may never own another Nokia phone again.

And it's true, Nokia made some great phones. But that was in a time where playing snake was impressive.


If Nokia could go back to the drawing board with Maemo and make some tweaks to the UI, deliver a class leading media player and give the device some proper cpu muscle they would win back some fans.

Although the N9 is a cool device, it just doesn't compare to the N900. And MeeGo just looks like a watered down Maemo.

The N9 should have been out back in 2010, and then the natural progression would be to go from MeeGo to Maemo.

The world is *** backwards sometimes..

daperl 2012-04-20 04:55
Re: Nokia on the brink of failure
 
@Faustino

I completely agree. A slightly smaller Note with an updated version of Maemo 5 is what the n9 should have been. The n900 still remains one of the coolest devices I own, but my Harmattan device is uninspiring.

Faustino 2012-04-20 05:31
Re: Nokia on the brink of failure
 
I was so excited for it too, remember the N9 anticipation threads on here last summer?

Even the N950 fails to get me curious, yeah great hardware, but the internals are outdated and the MeeGo UI doesn't seem to fit a device that shape as well as the Maemo UI would.

Surely Nokia should see the strong sales of the Note and realise people actually want devices like this.

AndyNokia232 2012-04-20 10:13
Re: Nokia on the brink of failure
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Faustino (Post 1194729)
I was so excited for it too, remember the N9 anticipation threads on here last summer?
Oh man, TMO took my entire life from me back then!! :)


(Happy days)

Dave999 2012-04-20 10:39
Re: Nokia on the brink of failure
 
windows 7 devices can't be upgraded to windows 8. It's not confirmed yet, but if its true. It's a bigger blow to nokia and elops ecosystem than the -1,2 B EUR nokia presented for Q2.

delmar 2012-04-20 12:10
Re: Nokia on the brink of failure
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck Norris (Post 1194815)
windows 7 devices can't be upgraded to windows 8. It's not confirmed yet, but if its true. It's a bigger blow to nokia and elops ecosystem than the -1,2 B EUR nokia presented for Q2.
But here they say, they're testing it on Lumia 800.

P.S. sorry for the italian webside, but the link to the original post from there does'nt work atm.

aironeous 2012-04-20 12:47
Re: Nokia on the brink of failure
 
Moving production to Asia and mass layoffs is not original at all.


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