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Lumiaman 2012-04-14 00:44
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
I have Lumia 800 and N9. Lumia 800 is the European version, so I dont get the benefits of 3g on the ATT or T-mobile, and N9, of course, works well on both.

Lumia 800 is way smoother and more pleaseant user experience. There is no stuttering, lagging, and general feeling that you are being waterboarded. Lumia 800 has the greatest email I have seen on the touchphone, and since I use email a LOT, I love it. N9 email plainly sucks. It doesnt save my drafts if for some reason I move away from the email, and the whole multitasking is a myth. Nothing happens in the background of N9. A myth. and that 1Gb of RAM is wasted on N9.
I have no desire to get L900 as L800 is pretty much the same and I like its form factor, but I can see how few of the individuals above are having a good time with it.

nokiaqueen 2012-04-14 01:25
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MINKIN2 (Post 1191820)
Congrats on your new toy nokiaqueen (and likewise gerbick).

I could have guessed how this topic was going to turn out from the topic title and don't believe you need to defend your choice, you have the phone you wanted and you like it. No one should be made to feel like a target for their choice of phone especially when its someone who has fair understanding of the mobile market.

We have to remember that both nokiaqueen and gerbick are not new to the forums and have been frequent posters here on maemo.org for a number of years now. They have also been on this Nokia rollercoaster with the rest of us and know full well what the score was with this MS & lumia ride. They did not go and buy their phones out of pure fanboy/girl blindness or buy into the hype of some sales tripe and then join the forum to troll some of us more ardent Nokia fans. If they (or any other TMO) user buys a lumia device and wants to sing the praises of a feature or comment on what the pro's and cons are of the handset, then I for one would be happy to read what they have to say.

It seems that we are forever reading polarised views on these things, beit Elop and his marketing machined WP7 fanboys or naysayers who don't believe Nokia can do anything right, it is quite refreshing to hear the honest reviews from a trusted poster of the forum. IMO their comments should be respected even if we still can't agree with their views. We can alway use this as an opportunity to ask more questions from a device owner that we know will give an honest and unbiased view point. There might even be a few surprises to learn.

Personally I would like to ask how is they call quality of the L900? I do understand there was the hic up at launch and props to Nokia for sorting that so damn fast, so with that now sorted I am interested to know if the call quality is back to the standards that you would expect from Nokia.


Edit: Sorry, went of on a tangent.
thanks appreciate your comment :) The call quality is excellent..I don't even have to put the phone next to my ear and I can hear clearly what the other person is saying...speaker is LOUD..works great :) and well ofcourse, you can adjust the volume to your liking.

nokiaqueen 2012-04-14 01:26
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1191863)
I have Lumia 800 and N9. Lumia 800 is the European version, so I dont get the benefits of 3g on the ATT or T-mobile, and N9, of course, works well on both.

Lumia 800 is way smoother and more pleaseant user experience. There is no stuttering, lagging, and general feeling that you are being waterboarded. Lumia 800 has the greatest email I have seen on the touchphone, and since I use email a LOT, I love it. N9 email plainly sucks. It doesnt save my drafts if for some reason I move away from the email, and the whole multitasking is a myth. Nothing happens in the background of N9. A myth. and that 1Gb of RAM is wasted on N9.
I have no desire to get L900 as L800 is pretty much the same and I like its form factor, but I can see how few of the individuals above are having a good time with it.
Nokia already sent out the update for L900, came early :) did L800 users get one too?

Lumiaman 2012-04-14 01:34
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
Yes, recently for battery life fix...

nokiaqueen 2012-04-14 01:50
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ste-phan (Post 1191515)
Congrats.

Though you should keep in mind that moving on forward, not backward, means keeping your N900 at hand.

Please don't hesitate to comment on the L900 OS and the display. I am curious to hear how is the display doing as Nokia internet tablet.

MicroB vs the Microsoft -- how many full website browser windows can you open at the same time on the L900?

Thanks!!
I can have 6 websites open with explorer...so max 6 tabs..and all websites are active and running :)

geneven 2012-04-14 02:11
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bocephus (Post 1191537)
Um, I'd venture to guess he means only an American could be stupid enough to think Windows Mobile is "smooth and runs perfectly".
Only some kind of European could think that he could characterise someone so easily by his country of origin. I have known plenty of idiots from different countries.

eaglehelang 2012-04-14 02:44
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nokiaqueen (Post 1191755)
to each his own :)

unlimited data isn't really needed because in the US we get free wifi just about everywhere :) So, I barely need to use my data anyways. Regarding the internet probs, Nokia already stated they'd be giving $100 back to all Nokia lumia users along with sending an update on the 16 :) Also most people got it free anyways upon signing a new contract with AT&T, so basically, Nokia has payed me to have the Lumia..what can be sweeter than that hehe
You misunderstood, not refering internet connection problems in US. Ya, that's why I said in the other reply many dont understand the significance(that happens a lot) & think we are some financially poor fellas who cant afford iphones(which just happened recently on this forum itself) :rolleyes:

Lumiaman 2012-04-14 02:48
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
I am from the US. US sucks. Lumia Rocks!!!!

gerbick 2012-04-14 02:48
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bocephus (Post 1191733)
Funny how the fact that it was a North American who made 'em do it escaped you. Although you won't ever hear me say anything positive about the rest of the board either for going along with him.
Funnier how those Finns fell for it. They hired them. Blame those lames for finding an ineffective, Microsoft affiliated CEO.

Place the blame right where it belongs... on that board you don't care about within the company you somehow seem to continue to care about.

Simply put, idiotic board of directors, idiotic CEO hire, idiotic claims of turning things around, idiotic string of events that we've all bear witness to... you want to point out who did what to whom, problem is that the Nokia board invited this dimwit into their fold.

ibrakalifa 2012-04-14 04:13
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
lol yeah, Lumiaman has new friends, my n9 never lagging or stuttering, u just doesnt know how to handle linux machine, ur just like ur name, m$ *****

harry_e20000 2012-04-14 05:16
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
Dude, changin from an N to an L..is totally your choice...but believe me when I say there's none to compare wit d N900..i'm yet to see a full that is full of adventure..You can tweak almost anythin to your choice unlike the iphone look-alikes in d market...3 months Tops, you'll dust your n900 and go back for it...have fun

timoph 2012-04-14 05:52
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1191863)
the whole multitasking is a myth. Nothing happens in the background of N9. A myth.
Keep telling that to yourself while trying to use for example spotify or ssh with a windows phone :)

I tried using a lumia 800 (developer gift from nokia) for about 2 months and the lack of decent task management and multitasking are the main reasons why I stopped using it. You might be able to live with it's limitations if your use cases for the phone are exactly what microsoft thinks they are and you expect nothing more from it.

rotoflex 2012-04-14 08:50
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nokiaqueen (Post 1191755)
to each his own :)

unlimited data isn't really needed because in the US we get free wifi just about everywhere
That's very inaccurate. It may only be true for the minority of US residents who live in & never leave larger urban centers.

LavaCroft 2012-04-14 09:01
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
Keep comparing Maemo to WIndows Phone 7. It does not make you people look silly at all.

mikecomputing 2012-04-14 09:56
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
To lazy read this thread but one thing about Android vs WP is:

I now several people who had now buyed the damn Lumia 800 and for them 800 is way better than many android devices they have tested cause it runs smother, does not need triple core CPU etc... And for us having N9/N900 we already knows that N9/N900 is not so resource hungry as Android is.

But the thing is none of them knows about N9/N900. So I say it again if Nokia had marketed N9 harder in european it could had taken back alot of the android users.

So what will I say with this is: Its all about marketing and those people stupid enought beleive Android manufactors like samsung will eat Nokia are plain stupid.

Nokia will come back. Personally I still dislike the fact the killed Maemo6 Harmattan and go WP only but that is how it is. Personally I will not buy any WP. I still hope for a Qt based geekphone in the future. Maybe when Nokia is back in bussines...

mikecomputing 2012-04-14 10:26
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1191893)
I am from the US. US sucks. Lumia Rocks!!!!
Not compared to N9 cause N9 has better camera, nfc, cooler os.

HELLASISGREECE 2012-04-14 11:46
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1191974)
Not compared to N9 cause N9 has better camera, nfc, cooler os.
also has larger screen, front camera for videocalling, free bluetooth, mass storage mode, 64gb memory, better OS
etc
etc

edit: for the fun of it, The fully promoted and advertised Lumia 800 has 29% daily interest on gsmarena
The N9 has 93%....

yeah Nokia...you really felt people's pulse with this one.... :p

nilchak 2012-04-14 13:07
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1191787)
just like most consumers use m$ LostDOS because it is what comes installed on their PC when they buy it, most consumers get either an iPotato or an ANDroid.
that's what everybody has, right?
m$?
do they do (mobile) phones?
yeah, sure, what does m$ not do?!?
thanks to Flop, m$ now registers as a tiny blip on the mobile landscape
that's all it'll ever be...
Does your hatred of popular and good tools and companies make go forget your spellings and write meaningless things like ipotato and lostdos and what not? Quite funny actually to see someone writhe in agony to spell the correct usage.

Anyway back to topic, so how much of ablip on the mobile landscaoe did maemo/meego combined register again?

nilchak 2012-04-14 13:11
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by harry_e20000 (Post 1191909)
Dude, changin from an N to an L..is totally your choice...but believe me when I say there's none to compare wit d N900..i'm yet to see a full that is full of adventure..You can tweak almost anythin to your choice unlike the iphone lookPoint taken-alikes in d market...3 months Tops, you'll dust your n900 and go back for it...have fun
point taken, but you do realize that sometimes not everybody wants to tweak things on the ohone, rather just have it work out of the box?

I can say by my own experience, I loved tweaking and the customizations options, but now with lesser time I love to have mydevices just work.

Theres really two sides to every coin. Believe me.

pycage 2012-04-14 17:33
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
My N9 does lag and stutter occasionally, but at least I can make use of it. It's a work horse, not a shiny catwalk model that can do nothing except for looking good.

No multitasking. C'mon, you cannot seriously call WP a smartphone OS...
Even Android can emulate multitasking better than WP does.

gerbick 2012-04-14 17:51
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pycage (Post 1192112)
My N9 does lag and stutter occasionally, but at least I can make use of it. It's a work horse, not a shiny catwalk model that can do nothing except for looking good.

No multitasking. C'mon, you cannot seriously call WP a smartphone OS...
Even Android can emulate multitasking better than WP does.
No, WP7 doesn't do multitasking at all. It's serial tasking - same as iOS. Android's attempt is a mixture - moreso on Ice Cream Sandwich than before - but as long as I can talk on the phone and check my e-mails, surf the web or take a note on my phone, that's a good start to me.

Doing so without any lag, even better.

True multitasking is good for a lot of things, but if it means I can't do what I purchased the phone for (talking to people) and the lag intercepts my user experience with lag or difficulties, it serves me no use whatsoever.

N9 does well. Very well in that aspect. The N900 wasn't quite there because it would sometimes lag so much when a call was coming in that you'd miss the call (rotate from portrait to landscape was a killer sometimes) or you'd hit the same button multiple times in your rush (or anger) to get to the phone.

But let's just say some people don't even multitask on their computers - shock, horror... I know. But there are different kinds of users and if things are not across the board an even experience, then you do the next best thing - serial tasking. I don't agree with this, but as a mobile developer, I can see how that's your first compromise.

Multitasking... I need it. WP7 doesn't have it. iOS doesn't have it. Android gets close enough for me to complain less. Harmattan has it, but I don't find myself using it too much because of a lack of apps that I'd use beyond the aforementioned things I do.

Dousan 2012-04-14 18:11
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nilchak (Post 1192015)
point taken, but you do realize that sometimes not everybody wants to tweak things on the ohone, rather just have it work out of the box?

I can say by my own experience, I loved tweaking and the customizations options, but now with lesser time I love to have mydevices just work.

Theres really two sides to every coin. Believe me.
I've reached the same point as you regarding my phones. More out of the box, less tweaking if only very light.

Regards Dousan...

BlackWindEXE 2012-04-14 18:43
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ibrakalifa (Post 1191904)
lol yeah, Lumiaman has new friends, my n9 never lagging or stuttering, u just doesnt know how to handle linux machine, ur just like ur name, m$ *****
I have an n9 and I'm an n9 fanboy and mine lags and stutters :D. Guess I don't know how to handle it either haha. I just use drop cache throughout the day.

nilchak 2012-04-14 18:55
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pycage (Post 1192112)
My N9 does lag and stutter occasionally, but at least I can make use of it. It's a work horse, not a shiny catwalk model that can do nothing except for looking good.

No multitasking. C'mon, you cannot seriously call WP a smartphone OS...
Even Android can emulate multitasking better than WP does.
Hey Pycage, knowing you a long time, do you really believe that WP7 isnt even worth calling a smartphone os just because it doesnt do true multi tasking. By thats standard ios is not it eitger. Nor is Android.

Now lets leave indv. Features aside. Does a phhone really need multitasking all the time? No. Hence the absolte neecd for a multitasking os is not that high apriority on a phone. Rather it should do each task well suited to its form factor and use case. So when making acall I want acall to be unhindered by multi tasks which make a call stutter on the N900.

So lets be objective sometimes andnot be blinded by our love for our favourite Maemo os.

In fact at one time I was dead against keyboardless
Smartphones. Now, not so much anymore.

nokiaqueen 2012-04-14 19:55
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
why exactly are we comparing windows with meego with maemo...they're all great :) and everyone has their own preference as to what works for them...I love maemo...great experience, and def a lot of fun..but it's just not cutting it for me anymore..I need a phone that works, fast and easily and winOS did the trick....Hey, if you like to tweak, and you wanna stick with maemo or meego, then go ahead, no one's telling you not to. I think it's pretty neat, the whole developing your own apps and making the phone work the way you want to, but I just don't have the time or skill for all this. I want things to be done and ready for me right away. And basically wanted a stable OS that's supported.

This thread wasn't meant to force windows upon anyone, just wanted to thank people for their contributions to Maemo, esp cssu team...totally changed maemo and was one of the major reasons I stuck with my N900 for another year :)

pycage 2012-04-14 21:28
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nilchak (Post 1192143)
Hey Pycage, knowing you a long time, do you really believe that WP7 isnt even worth calling a smartphone os just because it doesnt do true multi tasking. By thats standard ios is not it eitger. Nor is Android.
I used to have an Android phone and thanks to developer.nokia.com, I have a Lumia 800. On both the lack of multitasking drives me crazy. This is a deal-breaker for me, as I'm feeling I'm not in control of what I'm doing on the phone. That gives me a very bad user experience.

If you come from a dumb phone, an iPhone, or an Android phone, WP is surely a great experience, because you can't know it better.
But if you're coming from Maemo, it's IMHO a huge step backwards.

BlackWindEXE 2012-04-14 23:44
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pycage (Post 1192185)
I used to have an Android phone and thanks to developer.nokia.com, I have a Lumia 800. On both the lack of multitasking drives me crazy. This is a deal-breaker for me, as I'm feeling I'm not in control of what I'm doing on the phone. That gives me a very bad user experience.

If you come from a dumb phone, an iPhone, or an Android phone, WP is surely a great experience, because you can't know it better.
But if you're coming from Maemo, it's IMHO a huge step backwards.
I agree. I remember when I first got an N900 and was blown away by multitasking. Ever since then, I've been severely disappointed with iOS and Android's multitasking. They never felt like actual multitasking. Only time it "worked" for me theoretically was when I was in a call and had to look up something in an app, or put someone on speaker and texted someone else. In that sense, it works great (because my N9 lags and stutters like no other). Using iOS and Android after N900 always left me praising the N900 for its multitasking and I'm glad to have an N9 simply because of its multitasking (lag or not haha).

The lag does bother me here and there when I need something in a hurry, but I still enjoy the interface. But you are right, it is definitely a huge step backward. No one needs to open 10 apps and have them running gung-ho in the background, but maybe 3-4 should be manageable at least (and maemo and meego do this just fine whether you're ok with the lag or not).

ibrakalifa 2012-04-14 23:58
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
lag or not, maemo with better support gonna eat wp for desert, :D

Dousan 2012-04-15 20:17
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
Talking about the sun...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK0DC...9M0WwoRLp5D9M=

Regards Dousan...

Lumiaman 2012-04-15 23:13
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
Cool commercial. NOKIA knows how to make good commercials.

HELLASISGREECE 2012-04-16 00:16
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
Nokia does indeed know how to make cool commercials.
In numerous occasions, from the late 90s till now.

...nnnot in this case though. nope. uh uh

balisingh 2012-04-16 01:54
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
i am not going to comment on this. But i have put my thoughts about the Lumia 900 vs n9 here: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=83505
anyone who still clings to the n900 probably thought the n97 was a contender to the iphone.

switch-hitter 2012-04-16 08:18
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1192122)
Multitasking... I need it. WP7 doesn't have it. iOS doesn't have it. Android gets close enough for me to complain less. Harmattan has it, but I don't find myself using it too much because of a lack of apps that I'd use beyond the aforementioned things I do.
Some security advisers recommend against having a true multitasking OS on a phone because they believe tombstoning apps actually helps prevent exploits like key-logging.

Not saying that's my preference by the way, but it is a factor to consider in making your choice.

daperl 2012-04-16 11:59
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by switch-hitter (Post 1192659)
Some security advisers recommend against having a true multitasking OS on a phone because they believe tombstoning apps actually helps prevent exploits like key-logging.

Not saying that's my preference by the way, but it is a factor to consider in making your choice.
Oh f*ck, we're truly devolving.

RMS: Just because he's crazy, doesn't mean he's wrong.

gerbick 2012-04-16 14:05
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by switch-hitter (Post 1192659)
Some security advisers recommend against having a true multitasking OS on a phone because they believe tombstoning apps actually helps prevent exploits like key-logging.

Not saying that's my preference by the way, but it is a factor to consider in making your choice.
Wait... what?

If you're compromised, I doubt multi-tasking will be the least of your worries. Your phone is compromised! That's a real problem.

ibrakalifa 2012-04-16 14:24
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
thats true


cool, nokia, are you listening

Zoxir 2012-04-16 14:37
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dousan (Post 1192548)
Talking about the sun...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK0DC...9M0WwoRLp5D9M=

Regards Dousan...
LoL they're actually calling other smartphone users beta testers while every Lumia phone they have released had MAJOR bugs in it.

MINKIN2 2012-04-16 16:34
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ibrakalifa (Post 1192790)
Even the 5yr old N95 beats the L800 in that rating. I wish I never gave mine away :( Great little handset.

balisingh 2012-04-16 16:51
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
the whatsapp thread has almost 500 entries. get the L900 it has it.
it also has a push gtalk app.

ibrakalifa 2012-04-16 16:55
Re: Nokia N900 to Nokia L900
 
another 'lumiaman, pfffffft


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