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here we go again, :D

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Patience is virtue

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first of all thx to tgalal for all his work. :)
but since i do not like the ui shown in the screenshots ive seen, i "photoshopped" my own ui.
im not a developer so i have no idea if this is possible to create, but thats how i would like wazzap to look like...

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i guess its not easy to create, so just take it as my own fantasies :D

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Actually nobody (Messengers, integrated chats, SMS etc.) uses the fully left-to-right chat orientation of Maemo on N900, which i find it way more visually pleasing than this somewhat "broken" / "spread all over the place" chat designs of WhatsApp, iOS SMS etc.

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there is n770 version? How I can watsapp on n770 or is this a fake?

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You can do it in harmattan.
I did it, but I can't figure out how to add avatars, so I went back to the default bubbles. I don't undestand css too much.

http://i.imgur.com/9nHxf.png

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Happy to see MAG and CepiPerez help the development, they are genius

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if you have a nokia n770 than you have been cheated :p

btw i dont see your point, this is stil talk.maemo.org so asking if this is available for maemo is a valid question for witch the answer must be "yes it is" or "it will be with 100% certainty" :rolleyes:

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XMS UI is actually very pretty, we could learn a couple of ideas from there. And it really fits the N9 pretty looks well.

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Actually, maemo version is only a maybe...

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Anyone wanna help design and build of the website? If so please PM me. Thanks!

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Are you planning to modify the site in order to facilitate the download process?

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...Or to take payments?

You should definitely charge $10 dollars for this app then $1 per month subscription.

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wazapp is freware:)

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My specialty. Messaged you.

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Ok would someone please explain what this has to do with Wazapp Development? Damn do things have to be so much under the raps that we have to be scared before asking anything? What is the problem with the App right now so that other devs can help????

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I would like to thank tgalal for his efforts on this porting of the app. i had a suggestion to make regarding the layout of the app. Would it be possible to have the entire background black with the message pop ups with white-blue or green-red or even white-red combinations with white-black text as it would help in cutting down the battery consumption as the app usually is used more while chatting so if we have a lighter colour background it would drain a lot of battery if we have it continously running for chatting.
Regards !!

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It's obvious he wants a good looking professional site. Most likely will have tips, videos, tutorials and other goodies, and not just a download link. Give them time to perfect the app so everybody will be able to enjoy it

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True in N9 but false in N900. N9 uses an AMOLED, it is, an improved OLED screen. The OLEDs pixels generate light itselfs and with darker colors need to send less light, so less energy is consumed.

N900 uses TFT screen, so it have some backlights and TFT pixels must block light (consuming energy) to obtain darker colors than white.

The ideal for energy saving in the two platforms is to have two profiles, one darker and one lighter.

By the way, for comfort reading, the recommendation is to use...

EDIT FOR a CORRECTION AFTER SEARCHING ABOUT THAT:
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a yellowed white (pure white is too bright and more in screens that emit light) for background and black for letters.
</OLD TEXT>

yellow for background and black for letters to better reading FROM FAR. From short distances the more comfort reading is obtained with white background and black letters.

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Suggestion:

Have both a light and a dark theme. Other apps like FMobi have something like that and I'd really love it because a) it improves battery life b) the dark theme is sometimes better visible.

Ps. Whats up with some people yelling "here we go again" or something like that the second someone asks about the Wazapp progress. Why shouldn't we be allowed to ask if the app still has a lot of bugs or something.. What use is a forum if not to discuss...

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Hey Guyz,

Any devs here interested in porting Instagram to the N9? Checkout this thread http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1203854

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Wow this is sad.

What part of: ''Development Only - No Whining'' don't you understand? I honestly didn't want to post because it should only be about the developer's and some questions but this. C'mon...

I'll just ask a question then.
Will Wazapp have other payments? With that I mean that we have to pay to use Wazapp, maybe once or every year. Otherwise your hard work won't be worth alot :)

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It's better to be quiet and be patient, honestly the behavior of everyone over this app is destroying tmo.

Either stop or I will stop posting to answer questions about it.

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Today i donated again.

Just because i believe in the community and the project.

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Anything the DEVELOPER of Wazapp does is related to development.

Most likely he wants a website where people can get the latest version, check FAQ's and report bugs.. Its not easy to search through a thread to find somebody asking for help especially after how the last thread went!

Other devs are helping, if you had read through this thread you will see that a few including MAG who is one of the key developers for the N900 CSSU and various other things is helping out and is beta testing.

Nobody is scared of asking anything, just depends how silly the question is really.

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Start a new thread, this isn't the place for your post..

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Excellent work on the app. I'm encouraging everyone using N9 to donate.

I think QNeptunia works the same way for push notifications, since I receive mentions as soon as I connect to the internet even when the app is closed. So I think that will be a pretty cool feature. Just wondering how the battery life is affected though. Hopefully it will be fine.

But I have one question which many users are affected with: does the app work with WiFi only or can it work on 3G/2G network as well? PR 1.2 has this issue that the built-in browser and many 3rd party apps work only on WiFi and fail to load anything when you're outside on the road using mobile network instead. There are those terminal commands that fix this issue temporarily, but Opera, Firefox, all chat services and a few other applications work fine on 3G somehow, so I don't know if this is MeeGo's issue or some code each developer has to enter in the app to make it work with 3G. Can you please test it outside WiFi? Since the main idea is to chat with people while outside or travelling, etc.

I also agree with kb61 and others about the UI layout. The one kb61 photoshopped looks perfect for Whatsapp. Of course, if you're able to do such a UI, that would be awesome. There are many designers, me included, who can help with the design. If it's not possible, then it's still fine, the amount of work you guys did makes up for everything really.

Keep up the good work!

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I've used it on 2g/3g/wifi, they all work.

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Well, seems that the app will take some time to develop before release, so might as well give ideas for improvementes.

This photoshopped GUI seems better IMO than the one on the alpha version we have seen. This one looks like better integrated (looks like FB chat, SMS convos and XMS UI on the N9). Every messaging app should keep the original design to keep the elegancy of MeeGo.

As suggested before, there should be a dark and light theme, this way we can save battery on our devices. I dont know why the MeeGo OS doesnt have this from the box, having a beautiful AMOLED screen, blacks are way better.

Also, it havent been mentioned, but the sound notification should be configurable, or at least integrated with the messaging notification. Shouldnt be like the one on the ebuggy XMS which stops the music when playing the tone.

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I guess what I am to say is obvious but I thought I should mention it nonetheless; before releasing Wazzap make sure the registration and authentication not only works but functions just like an existing client (i.e. Android) as we do not know how WhatsApp will react to this and it would be better to have a method they find hard to detect than one where every N9 gets banned and access is lost until another Wazzap overhaul ;) or possibly for ever for that IMEI :(

That being said I am a pro-double theme, dark and light, seems like it could add elegance to the app and make it more versatile. :)

One last question: Is the core of the app easy to port to a different platform?? I seem to recall it is written in Python so, excluding all the lockscreen integration, vibration and whatnot the core should be pretty N900 friendly no?? Apart from recompiling the registration/authentication part which will be left closed source the rest should be something that takes less effort I would think??

Thank you for your time.

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Excuse me, but, am i the only one who doesn't actually care about what color the background is or isn't? or whether the wazzapp icon is show on the left of every new message u receive? Specially for an alfa version....
All i care about in an alfa version is for it to work! Which means for me to be able to talk to another person using whatsapp/wazzapp . That's it! i can worry about group chat or emoticons or whatever other feature that the latest whatsapp has, BUT didn't have on the original whatsapp, later. Although seeing as i can't have whatsapp on a N9, i honestly just want a working app....i can be with a purple background for all i care...
Also, it seems to me that tgalal want's to update wazzapp in the future, that's why he seems interested in updating the site, to make it easier for him to do that. So if he is doing that, why not do all the UI changes and all the other aesthetic changes that the users may have then?
My point beeing....seeing as so many people are complaining about not having whatsapp on nokia N9, i would have thought that the primary focus would be to release wazzap as simple as possible to JUST work, and worry about all the other things (i'm talking mostly about the looks of the app itself) in future updates. But maybe that's just me...
However i do want to send my appreciation to tgalal and everyone working on developing wazzapp.

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If they have not released it yet it is probably due to buggy protocol adaptation or they think like me, I do not even have an N9 however I try helping the comunity, as that is the spirit of both phones. That being said I would not want all N9 users that want wazzap to sign in with a faulty protocol, get banned or have their IMEI blocked and then whine at tgalal. So in short... the background is not what is making it arrive later ;)

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That's cool. Another small question: obviously picture and location sending and all type of file sending feature will be in the later versions, but what about picture receiving? If someone sends a pic from another smartphone, what would happen? A blank message or we'll get the pic but not able to download?

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Doesn't even get a message and the picture isn't even received.

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@sorin88:
There is always at least two viewpoints to a development thread. One is to discuss issues arising while actually developing, the other is to discuss enhancement and future road map to have something to develop. Discussing usabilty would meet requirements of a development thread and one issue of usabilty is colour schemes.
The colour is not only good looks. It is user experience by integrating with the OS. It is as well battery life by choosing black background on a display which actually benefits from black.

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I'm not actually disputing that the color of the background affects battery life. It's obvious that it does, and it should be discussed.
My point is that i'd rather have wazzapp right now, with for example a high battery consumption, than 3 weeks from now with that battery issue solved?Specially since tgalal seems to be wanting to update the project in the future.
If tgalal would have said that he doesn't want to update it after the first release....then yea, make it as close to perfect as possible by all means.

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Trust me, if you used it, you'd want tgalal to fix some of the bugs. I've installed it on my devices a few times each and had an issue each time with one thing or another. I am trying to keep tgalal informed about these and you guys need to be patient till it is publicly useable.

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If it isn't in anyway useable to the masses of idiots from the previous thread, this forum willl be overflowing with senseless posts whining and *****ing about the bugs.

Better for everyone if the app remains in a closed beta till all the main usability issues are fixed.

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Would you mind tell me what bugs you have discovered?

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Hope message are delivered as fast as whatsapp on other OS.

I also hope donations are on the rise cos it is not an easy task doing something for the masses without asking for any form of payments.