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Arie 2012-05-10 12:24

Re: Wazzap Development Only - No Whining
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by godofwar424 (Post 1204696)
If it isn't in anyway useable to the masses of idiots from the previous thread, this forum willl be overflowing with senseless posts whining and *****ing about the bugs.

Better for everyone if the app remains in a closed beta till all the main usability issues are fixed.

Thank you, finally somebody understands. I can handle the terminal and don't mind flashing my phone. Most people do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMavica (Post 1204702)
Would you mind tell me what bugs you have discovered?

Can't promised not to talk about them with anyone.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vickyme2002 (Post 1204713)
Hope message are delivered as fast as whatsapp on other OS.

They are pretty quick. The longest time it took a message for me while online was all of 3 seconds. It's faster than text.

TMavica 2012-05-10 13:33

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if anyone dont want wait any more, give him this ticket http://tinyurl.com/dyj6xxv ,then he will send you the deb to you IMMEDIATELY, go ahead you all.
:D:D:D:D

Jeffrey04 2012-05-10 13:38

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I just hope he is not the only one working on it till now.

Wichall 2012-05-10 13:43

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Could we please make it clearer that this app is only for Meego? In the thread title or something...

TMavica 2012-05-10 13:45

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Fixed a bug > Found other bugs > Continue Fix > Done > Add group chat > Add media sending > Add picture sending > Continue fix bug

Finally we will have wazapp! It is not call Wazapp alpha 1.00 anyone, is Wazapp FULL

Muzimak 2012-05-10 14:00

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On Twitter he said if anyone buys him a ticket to the Linkinpark concert he'll give U a package immediately.

Mr_NkStyle 2012-05-10 14:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMavica (Post 1204745)
if anyone dont want wait any more, give him this ticket http://tinyurl.com/dyj6xxv ,then he will send you the deb to you IMMEDIATELY, go ahead you all.
:D:D:D:D

is a Joke????? -.-' is not ready for download but is ready for someone who buy him tickets........-.-' not funny

recluse 2012-05-10 14:46

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Isn't the source code going to be released? If it's released now we can probably fix all the bugs in a week.

If the source code isn't going to be released, I may as well start a Whatsapp port from scratch right now.

pablocrossa 2012-05-10 14:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by recluse (Post 1204773)
Isn't the source code going to be released? If it's released now we can probably fix all the bugs in a week.

If the source code isn't going to be released, I may as well start a Whatsapp port from scratch right now.

I believe everything except the authentication or registration is to be released with source :)

CepiPerez 2012-05-10 15:01

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This is getting boring
Whatsapp will cost after a year of suscription
All you guys will see wazapp when all your friends starts using another messaging app

godofwar424 2012-05-10 15:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by recluse (Post 1204773)
Isn't the source code going to be released? If it's released now we can probably fix all the bugs in a week.

If the source code isn't going to be released, I may as well start a Whatsapp port from scratch right now.

I would love you to make your own port.

Seriously shut up with the "if you don't do this, im leaving!" crap.

Nobody will care if you don't use the app lol.

Also releasing the source code will allow WhatsApp themselves the ability to see how the app works and block it.. (If they are bothered)

godofwar424 2012-05-10 15:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffrey04 (Post 1204749)
I just hope he is not the only one working on it till now.

Read before you post! Don't just blind post, its frustrating when silly posts are made.

If you read the thread, you will see multiple highly esteemed devs in this community are helping..

godofwar424 2012-05-10 15:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CepiPerez (Post 1204780)
This is getting boring
Whatsapp will cost after a year of suscription
All you guys will see wazapp when all your friends starts using another messaging app

Doubtfull, the cost is some ridiculously tiny fee for the year, and WhatsApp has been out for longer then a year, people are still using it as the fee is tiny.

Its $1.99 for 2 years subscription... Not exact gonna break the change section of your wallet.. Its the price of a burger lol

godofwar424 2012-05-10 15:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arie (Post 1204715)
Thank you, finally somebody understands. I can handle the terminal and don't mind flashing my phone. Most people do..

Yeah I also don't mind have to flash my phone or not be able to use it for a couple of hours, I have backup phones.

kkito 2012-05-10 15:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by recluse (Post 1204773)
Isn't the source code going to be released? If it's released now we can probably fix all the bugs in a week.

If the source code isn't going to be released, I may as well start a Whatsapp port from scratch right now.

I hacked the qxmpp to be able to communicate to wa servers... It is working really good, almost most of the wa packets are like regular xmpp ones, someones with extensions, and others are new... Basically WA binarizes the xml packets before send/Receive. If he is not going to release the code or the app, maybe i will release it, but I am a little bit scared about the legal issues of reversing etc.

Regards.

patlak 2012-05-10 15:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by godofwar424 (Post 1204793)
I would love you to make your own port.

Seriously shut up with the "if you don't do this, im leaving!" crap.

Nobody will care if you don't use the app lol.

Also releasing the source code will allow WhatsApp themselves the ability to see how the app works and block it.. (If they are bothered)

How is your post useful? Stop answering to stupid, unrelated questions to wazapp development. You're spamming this thread with many useless posts. I suggest you delete your posts and keep it clean. Is it that hard to understand?

godofwar424 2012-05-10 15:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by patlak (Post 1204807)
How is your post useful? Stop answering to stupid, unrelated questions to wazapp development. You're spamming this thread with many useless posts. I suggest you delete your posts and keep it clean. Is it that hard to understand?

The ending is, explaining why the source code probably wont be released..

ps. I find it hard to see how im 'spamming' and where are these apparent useless posts? Coz so far I have been giving information that people want to know, such as the subscription fee ect.

Your post is not of any use, your just targetting me, someone who has been trying to answer as many questions as I can..

Nad 2012-05-10 17:01

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you would not even have to release the source code for them to figure out if you are using an n9 - you are.giving them your imei, which they can run in any public database (or use an automatic script) and just bar all imeis that come up as Nokia n9's if they really wanted...

releasing the source would make development quicker but that is up to the original author at the end of the day!

malkavian 2012-05-10 17:15

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The java port of whatsapp let you write your IMEI, and could be fake. This could be a solution to avoid problems. I'm not sure, but I think that the IMEI is just used to generate by md5 the password for logging.

godofwar424 2012-05-11 00:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nad (Post 1204848)
you would not even have to release the source code for them to figure out if you are using an n9 - you are.giving them your imei, which they can run in any public database (or use an automatic script) and just bar all imeis that come up as Nokia n9's if they really wanted...

releasing the source would make development quicker but that is up to the original author at the end of the day!

Quote:

Originally Posted by malkavian (Post 1204851)
The java port of whatsapp let you write your IMEI, and could be fake. This could be a solution to avoid problems. I'm not sure, but I think that the IMEI is just used to generate by md5 the password for logging.


As malkavian said before me, the IMEI can be falsified and WhatsApp will still work.

Don't need to use a real one :P

Also do you honestly think WhatsApp are going to go through all the IMEI's for every N9 and block them?

I personally don't think they will bother blocking this app, I think the only reason they didn't give us an official solution is that it required them to spend money and they didn't want to spend money on a platform that is considered 'dead'

weedm8 2012-05-11 06:49

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Hi guys!

I'm a bit of a newcomer here on maemo.org so I just Introduce myself fast!

I'm 21years old geekish fellow from Finland and I love to play around with Electronics, mostly something like disassembly -> repair -> assemble. I don't have a mind of a Linus, but I totally love to play with the open source stuff.

I don't know much of any coding or scripting, but I really could try to help you out with this. I'm ex-engineer student from ICT, so I still got some magic in my hands!

I could for example, be a "lower-developer" by just finding bugs and stuff. I own the N900 AND N9 64Gb by the way.

Be sure to contact me If you believe I could help you somehow!
(I know how to make coffee also!)

vickyme2002 2012-05-11 07:47

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I also know how to make coffee....guess that makes me a developer too
:D:D:D:D

Quote:

Originally Posted by weedm8 (Post 1205070)
Hi guys!

I'm a bit of a newcomer here on maemo.org so I just Introduce myself fast!

I'm 21years old geekish fellow from Finland and I love to play around with Electronics, mostly something like disassembly -> repair -> assemble. I don't have a mind of a Linus, but I totally love to play with the open source stuff.

I don't know much of any coding or scripting, but I really could try to help you out with this. I'm ex-engineer student from ICT, so I still got some magic in my hands!

I could for example, be a "lower-developer" by just finding bugs and stuff. I own the N900 AND N9 64Gb by the way.

Be sure to contact me If you believe I could help you somehow!
(I know how to make coffee also!)


patlak 2012-05-11 08:14

Re: Wazzap Development Only - No Whining
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by godofwar424 (Post 1204810)
The ending is, explaining why the source code probably wont be released..

ps. I find it hard to see how im 'spamming' and where are these apparent useless posts? Coz so far I have been giving information that people want to know, such as the subscription fee ect.

Your post is not of any use, your just targetting me, someone who has been trying to answer as many questions as I can..

Your ending has been explained so many times. As for your subscription fee, if you haven't noticed, these viewers are current or ex whatsapp users, and to make it clear, nobody asked for the subscription fee.

Example:

Quote:

Originally Posted by cepiperez
This is getting boring
Whatsapp will cost after a year of suscription
All you guys will see wazapp when all your friends starts using another messaging app

Your response even though he's aware of the subscription fee:

Quote:

Doubtfull, the cost is some ridiculously tiny fee for the year, and WhatsApp has been out for longer then a year, people are still using it as the fee is tiny.

Its $1.99 for 2 years subscription... Not exact gonna break the change section of your wallet.. Its the price of a burger lol
To conclude, your posts are spam. Delete them.

slushie 2012-05-11 14:11

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@Arie @Tgalal @anyone with wazapp

So at what stage is Wazapp now? And people: stop saying I'm whining. I'm just curious if there's still a lot to do...

Arie 2012-05-11 14:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by slushie (Post 1205219)
@Arie @Tgalal @anyone with wazapp

So at what stage is Wazapp now? And people: stop saying I'm whining. I'm just curious if there's still a lot to do...

Spoke to tgalal this morning, there's still stuff that needs to be done.

Will update as progress happens.

naru 2012-05-11 14:42

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http://n900tutorials.blogspot.in/201...s-manager.html


i think so this is simple way to port whatsapp... why we all are not trying this platform ... web os manager if can run .ipk games then its so essy to run whatsapp ... if some one try by this way i think so we all are get big rusult

Arie 2012-05-11 15:11

Re: Wazzap Development Only - No Whining
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by naru (Post 1205248)
http://n900tutorials.blogspot.in/201...s-manager.html


i think so this is simple way to port whatsapp... why we all are not trying this platform ... web os manager if can run .ipk games then its so essy to run whatsapp ... if some one try by this way i think so we all are get big rusult

tgalal is started working on the N900 client today.

LaLlamaQueLlama 2012-05-11 15:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by naru (Post 1205248)
http://n900tutorials.blogspot.in/201...s-manager.html


i think so this is simple way to port whatsapp... why we all are not trying this platform ... web os manager if can run .ipk games then its so essy to run whatsapp ... if some one try by this way i think so we all are get big rusult

Webos programs arent compatible, just the games because they dont run on the webos api itself

read the webos threads and you will figure it out. Or do you think if it was that simple no one would have tried it?

The only thing similar to that is running the S40 java whatsapp and you already have that.

ahmadamaj 2012-05-11 15:14

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i don't think whatsapp exists for WebOS

naru 2012-05-11 15:40

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every platform can maike aplication... i am just telling web os becuzz i am thinking that if 48 up games are runing by 1 aplication that is big ...

if we will try on that plat form may be lot of aplication we can use ..

nimbuzz, tango, qeep, whatsapp, fring ,

i am nt telling that wich platform is good i am just advice if we will select right platform it will good in futcher .. all aplication may be will run bye one manager ...

WGAMES manager we are using for games if we will devlop one appmanager like wgames it tooo good...

isorn 2012-05-11 15:45

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Does Wazzap store the messages in a database? How is it done?

A new Whatsapp's security hole (Spanish): Whatsapp encrypts the messages database always and for all users with the same key.

Edit: Sorry, updated url

Arie 2012-05-11 15:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by isorn (Post 1205298)
Does Wazzap store the messages in a database? How is it done?

A new Whatsapp's security hole (Spanish): Whatsapp encrypts the messages database always and for all users with the same key.

No it doesn't store messages as far as I am aware, I only have a record of so many of my messages per convo.

godofwar424 2012-05-11 16:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by patlak (Post 1205090)
Your response even though he's aware of the subscription fee:
To conclude, your posts are spam. Delete them.

There was no reference to the price of the fee in his post, also I was replying to his view that people will move on as people won't want to pay.

Its my oppinon, not spamming, you are spamming this thread atm with this pointless carry on.

Got a problem, pm it..

mr_pingu 2012-05-11 16:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arie (Post 1205299)
No it doesn't store messages as far as I am aware, I only have a record of so many of my messages per convo.

About 30 days stored on the phone, if you want to scroll back to older messages you need to be online. Encountered that once on an iPhone. So it definitely stores some messages, don't know what the max is from looking back...

godofwar424 2012-05-11 16:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by naru (Post 1205293)
every platform can maike aplication... i am just telling web os becuzz i am thinking that if 48 up games are runing by 1 aplication that is big ...

if we will try on that plat form may be lot of aplication we can use ..

nimbuzz, tango, qeep, whatsapp, fring ,

i am nt telling that wich platform is good i am just advice if we will select right platform it will good in futcher .. all aplication may be will run bye one manager ...

WGAMES manager we are using for games if we will devlop one appmanager like wgames it tooo good...

The only reason the games work is because they use SDL which is also used by the N900.

The apps are another story, and definitely not something that will be an easy port. What you are saying it to build a WebOS emulator which would not be easy in any way, emulation never is.

The games manager just uses the same SDL 1.2 environment but I think it tricks it into thinking it is being run on a WebOS device, which is fine as the N900 supports SDL1.2.

Jigzy 2012-05-11 18:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arie (Post 1205262)
tgalal is started working on the N900 client today.

not a developer by any stretch of the imagination, but , would I be right in assuming alot of the hardwork from N9 development will be shared with n900?

Thus reducing the development time?

slushie 2012-05-11 20:06

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@arie @tgalal

Is there an estimate or even a guesstimate of how much development is still needed for Wazapp to be ready?

godofwar424 2012-05-11 20:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jigzy (Post 1205387)
not a developer by any stretch of the imagination, but , would I be right in assuming alot of the hardwork from N9 development will be shared with n900?

Thus reducing the development time?

Im pretty sure he is using Python to make this or PyQT which I think is easily portable, apart from any resolution differences and other small things.

Quote:

Originally Posted by slushie (Post 1205433)
@arie @tgalal

Is there an estimate or even a guesstimate of how much development is still needed for Wazapp to be ready?

Probably best if he doesn't give an estimation, after what happened last time when a deadline was given. Even if its an estimate, people will complain and moan if its not ready by the estimate.

TMavica 2012-05-12 06:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arie (Post 1205262)
tgalal is started working on the N900 client today.

that mean n9 client is available

Wichall 2012-05-12 12:37

Re: Wazzap Development Only - No Whining
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arie (Post 1205262)
tgalal is started working on the N900 client today.

Is this confirmed?


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