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Arie 2012-05-12 13:02
Re: Wazzap Development Only - No Whining
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wichall (Post 1205650)
Is this confirmed?
If you haven't figured out my relationship to Wazapp, it's better I just tell you no.

Though if you look through this thread, you'll figure out whether to believe my post or not.

RX-51 2012-05-12 13:35
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@Arie, thanks for your helpful replies!

Are the official emoticons implanted yet?

Arie 2012-05-12 13:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RX-51 (Post 1205675)
@Arie, thanks for your helpful replies!

Are the official emoticons implanted yet?
No, our major concern now is stability.

Wichall 2012-05-12 15:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arie (Post 1205655)
If you haven't figured out my relationship to Wazapp, it's better I just tell you no.

Though if you look through this thread, you'll figure out whether to believe my post or not.
I will donate some more then, sarcasm wasn't entirely necessary though :)

figaro 2012-05-12 16:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arie (Post 1205299)
No it doesn't store messages as far as I am aware, I only have a record of so many of my messages per convo.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_pingu (Post 1205318)
About 30 days stored on the phone, if you want to scroll back to older messages you need to be online. Encountered that once on an iPhone. So it definitely stores some messages, don't know what the max is from looking back...
so which one is right? does wazapp store message history or not?
@mr_pingu, or are you referring to the original whatsapp? though that would mean that whatsapp server keeps all message history in their database?

@Arie, I hope that's only because it's still in dev phase. once it's publicly release, I do hope that we can still read (or better, export) our message history

Wichall 2012-05-12 16:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by figaro (Post 1205738)
@Arie, I hope that's only because it's still in dev phase. once it's publicly release, I do hope that we can still read (or better, export) our message history
I'm sure tgalal will put this in, don't worry, it's a very simple feature to implement

figaro 2012-05-12 16:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wichall (Post 1205739)
I'm sure tgalal will put this in, don't worry, it's a very simple feature to implement
exactly. it's very simple, yet very crucial

and just like the export history thing. it's also very simple (and personally i find it very useful), but i hardly find any IM client with that feature
maybe at least make it in plain sqlite db, so we can do whatever we want with that

Arie 2012-05-12 16:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wichall (Post 1205731)
I will donate some more then, sarcasm wasn't entirely necessary though :)
If you read the thread, even one page back, you'd know your answer.

Quote:
Originally Posted by figaro (Post 1205738)
so which one is right? does wazapp store message history or not?
@mr_pingu, or are you referring to the original whatsapp? though that would mean that whatsapp server keeps all message history in their database?

@Arie, I hope that's only because it's still in dev phase. once it's publicly release, I do hope that we can still read (or better, export) our message history
mr_pingu is referring to the original whatsapp client.

Nothing is for certain in regards to the message history, we are busy working on stability at the moment, everything else is an after thought.

RobertHall 2012-05-12 16:57
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dont know if this has been asked before but after 1yr. of use how do we pay for the service? as this isnt an "official" whatsapp?

Arie 2012-05-12 16:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RobertHall (Post 1205759)
dont know if this has been asked before but after 1yr. of use how do we pay for the service? as this isnt an "official" whatsapp?
Still figuring that out.

slushie 2012-05-12 17:21
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Could I help with translating?

mr_pingu 2012-05-12 17:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slushie (Post 1205768)
Could I help with translating?
I don't mind to translate either but I don't have a N9
I am dutch BTW ;)

simpu 2012-05-12 18:11
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oh please, not this translation thing again!

Wichall 2012-05-12 18:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slushie (Post 1205768)
Could I help with translating?
you'll do anything to get your hands on it won't you

slushie 2012-05-12 19:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wichall (Post 1205793)
you'll do anything to get your hands on it won't you
Would I get Wazapp if I'd translate? Didn't know that.

ZogG 2012-05-12 19:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slushie (Post 1205809)
Would I get Wazapp if I'd translate? Didn't know that.
Sure and 200$ and a hug... oh, and BJ

MohammadAG 2012-05-12 21:21
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FYI the $1.99 a year isn't present on the iPhone, and since all apps connect to the same server I guess it's client-side.

slushie 2012-05-12 21:49
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I'll come back in june. Pm me if it's ready.

Scorpius 2012-05-13 04:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MohammadAG (Post 1205859)
FYI the $1.99 a year isn't present on the iPhone, and since all apps connect to the same server I guess it's client-side.
That's very weird. In my Whatsapp Qt application when I log in I can read:

Code:
<success>
  creation=1335769936
  expiration=1367305936
  kind=free
  status=active
  xmlns=urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-sasl
So there's an expiration date server side (I think that's March 30, 2013). I wonder what will happen when it expires.

Anyway can't you pay through the website?

isorn 2012-05-13 09:15
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I remembered that if you decompile whatsapp jar file (the original, not this) you can find an expiration variable and the way it calculates...
I haven't got the jar file now so I can't find the class file that contains it but I think that there isn't an expiration date server side, it's client side.

tommo 2012-05-13 09:52
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Gone past caring about this now... By the time it comes out everyone will be using something else.

davdav 2012-05-13 10:03
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i may help you translating it to arabic ;)
send me the buttons and the things you want to translate in a .txt file and i will translate it for you

ps : i have an n900 not n9

rash.m2k 2012-05-13 10:19
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Is there some sort of bug tracking site for this?

Perhaps I could help with the testing. Unfortunately I wasn't able to help with the development of the app itself.

But I should be able to help with the testing at least. Anyplace I can grab this from?

SamGan 2012-05-13 10:26
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by the time it is released Whatsapp's protocols would have changed and its back to the drawing board.

rash.m2k 2012-05-13 10:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SamGan (Post 1205989)
by the time it is released Whatsapp's protocols would have changed and its back to the drawing board.
It's unlikely, they are using the XMPP protocol plus a few of their own custom tweaks. It might change a little bit - but not by much.

FYI - they are using ejabberd (erlang implementation) for their servers.

Kein 2012-05-13 10:35
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Why not rename this vapourapp?

SamGan 2012-05-13 10:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rash.m2k (Post 1205992)
It's unlikely, they are using the XMPP protocol plus a few of their own custom tweaks. It might change a little bit - but not by much.

FYI - they are using ejabberd (erlang implementation) for their servers.
You missed my sarcasm.

godofwar424 2012-05-13 10:57
This thread is gonna turn back to nonsense.

Come on guys, keep the 'this is taking to long' comments to yourself.

Its been two weeks, stop being so melodramatic, people have been using WhatsApp for years, they wont magically stop two weeks into May!

Let him work and as for the subscription, im sure TGalal will work it out, he has a year before it will start to cause problems anyways :)

DDH87 2012-05-13 23:04
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I do have a question regarding the reregistration process.

I have a Whatsapp account setup when I was using my E90. Now I have a N9 and there for an other EMEI but same phone number. How is the registration process going to handle this? Will it autocratically change to my new IMEI or will it just not work?

If you haven't tested this and not able to test this just PM me.

ZogG 2012-05-13 23:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DDH87 (Post 1206265)
I do have a question regarding the reregistration process.

I have a Whatsapp account setup when I was using my E90. Now I have a N9 and there for an other EMEI but same phone number. How is the registration process going to handle this? Will it autocratically change to my new IMEI or will it just not work?

If you haven't tested this and not able to test this just PM me.
I think i saw few testers mentioned they had watsapp on other phone so it means it worked. but i might be wrong

godofwar424 2012-05-14 01:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DDH87 (Post 1206265)
I do have a question regarding the reregistration process.

I have a Whatsapp account setup when I was using my E90. Now I have a N9 and there for an other EMEI but same phone number. How is the registration process going to handle this? Will it autocratically change to my new IMEI or will it just not work?

If you haven't tested this and not able to test this just PM me.
WhatsApp just updates or adds the IMEI for your number :)

I logged into WhatsApp using the Android emulator for PC and all my friends/chats where there even though it was the emulators IMEI which was basically lots of E's and 0's :P

snowparang 2012-05-14 04:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by godofwar424 (Post 1206295)
WhatsApp just updates or adds the IMEI for your number :)

I logged into WhatsApp using the Android emulator for PC and all my friends/chats where there even though it was the emulators IMEI which was basically lots of E's and 0's :P
in that case, we can assume that if we've already paid for the app, say on my Nokia N8, it'll continue to work on another phone (be it wazapp or android)? Any testers actually using a paid account?

mr_pingu 2012-05-14 06:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by snowparang (Post 1206318)
in that case, we can assume that if we've already paid for the app, say on my Nokia N8, it'll continue to work on another phone (be it wazapp or android)? Any testers actually using a paid account?
Paying is totally clientside, nothing on the server has information about expiration date or a flag for paid or not.

Scorpius 2012-05-14 07:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_pingu (Post 1206349)
Paying is totally clientside, nothing on the server has information about expiration date or a flag for paid or not.
Where are you guys getting this information? I can see an expiration date coming from the server everytime I log in.

Whatsapp protocol is compressed using a dictionary not encrypted, everybody can sniff it and see it for themselves.

This is the PDU I receive when the login process (several PDUs long) finishes:
Code:
0030                            00 23 f8 0b 99 bd a7 94 09 52  .......#.......R
0040  37 23 fc 0a 31 33 33 35 37 36 39 39 33 36 30 fc  7#..13357699360.
0050  0a 31 33 36 37 33 30 35 39 33 36                .1367305936


00 23:        stanza size
f8 0b:        node following
99:        dictionary: "success"
bd:        dictionary: "xmlns"
a7:        dictionary: "urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-sasl"
94:        dictionary: "status"
09:        dictionary: "active"
52:        dictionary: "kind"
37:        dictionary: "free"
23:        dictionary: "creation"
fc 0a:        string 10 bytes following "1335769936"
30:        ditionary:  "expiration"
fc 0a:  string 10 bytes following "1367305936"
As you can see my account is "kind=free", "status=active" with an expiration date. And that comes from the server.

mr_pingu 2012-05-14 07:33
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Because iPhone hasn't got any expiration date, only android and symbian does. So I draw conclusion, I guess I have drawn the wrong conclusions. Sorry for the wrong in information/conclusion

Muzimak 2012-05-14 08:14
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I see some activities under EverythingN9 Twitter account, some themes too, this looks really promising.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Everythin...530688/photo/1

Damn after taking sometime looking at this theme, I take back what I said about using the native messaging style, I'm loving it looks even better than most competitors. Maybe in the future they can add extra themes with the Native one included for those who want it.

rash.m2k 2012-05-14 16:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DDH87 (Post 1206265)
I do have a question regarding the reregistration process.

I have a Whatsapp account setup when I was using my E90. Now I have a N9 and there for an other EMEI but same phone number. How is the registration process going to handle this? Will it autocratically change to my new IMEI or will it just not work?

If you haven't tested this and not able to test this just PM me.
I think this is using the XMPP standard about bare ID, full ID etc.

I suspect that the XMPP resource is phonenumber@whatsapp.com/imei

So as long as you have the same phone number you should be fine, IMEI probably doesn't matter.

Someone with intricate knowledge can confirm this.

MohammadAG 2012-05-14 16:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DDH87 (Post 1206265)
I do have a question regarding the reregistration process.

I have a Whatsapp account setup when I was using my E90. Now I have a N9 and there for an other EMEI but same phone number. How is the registration process going to handle this? Will it autocratically change to my new IMEI or will it just not work?

If you haven't tested this and not able to test this just PM me.
It'll simply work. The account will no longer work on the E90 though (one device per account).

GrimyHR 2012-05-14 16:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MohammadAG (Post 1206601)
It'll simply work. The account will no longer work on the E90 though (one device per account).
now that is just a f.u.ck.i.n.g stupid "feature"...

Muzimak 2012-05-14 17:20
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@Arie , has Tgalal managed to sort out the issue with Incoming Message Tones yet?


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