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michaaa62 2012-05-12 07:50
Re: Can you recommend a Linux version for beginner
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sifo (Post 1205552)
i never wanted to change winblows but after reading you guys cheering over here i like the idea about installing a linux distro but if im thinking about installing a rude distro :D (for h*ck*ng) which one it should be ? backtrack ?

./sifo
You could search http://distrowatch.org for specific distributions of GNU Linux. There are plenty to discover, if you have special requirements.

mrsellout 2012-05-12 08:17
Re: Can you recommend a Linux version for beginner
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dumpystig (Post 1205513)
Right, I'm halfway thro' LiLi/Ubuntu setup. once this is done I'm off to bed, work in the morning.
Thanks for the inputs guys, I'll be back tomorrow, let you know what I think.
There's no need to lower the tone with images like that :P.

Seriously though omgubuntu.co.uk is a good fansite with articles that may be interesting/helpful, these two in particular might help get you up and running.

dumpystig 2012-05-12 08:23
Re: Can you recommend a Linux version for beginner
 
Lower the tone???

Just seen where you're @ :D

GrimyHR 2012-05-12 08:47
Re: Can you recommend a Linux version for beginner
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by anonymous (Post 1205549)
I agree with Ubuntu and Mint as recommendations. Ubuntu has a windows installer. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/deskt...dows-installer You click on the exe, download and reboot.


I would add http://crunchbanglinux.org/ It's not as friendly, but it's fast. PCLinuxOS http://www.pclinuxos.com/ is newbie friendly. it has good hardware support and easy configuration tools. And puppy linux http://puppylinux.org/ just because it's fun. WOOF

You could and should try linux live cds, or put it on a usbck.
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ that way you can try different linux distros and you won't hurt your windows install.

If you're interested in the few people suggesting Gentoo, I would suggest sabayon http://www.sabayon.org/ instead. It's Gentoo with no fuss.
DO NOT USE WINDOWS INSTALLER! and i can not emphasize this enough, this will install linux on the same partition as windows in a virtual partition which will result in two things:
no benefit from journaled fs
and much lower performance

zimon 2012-05-12 11:39
Re: Can you recommend a Linux version for beginner
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GrimyHR (Post 1205588)
DO NOT USE WINDOWS INSTALLER! and i can not emphasize this enough, this will install linux on the same partition as windows in a virtual partition which will result in two things:
no benefit from journaled fs
and much lower performance
Depends on what Windows installer. Fedora's LiveUSB-creator for MS Windows will install Live Fedora Linux on a USB-stick without touching the MS Windows system. Then after booting with LiveUSB you are already in Linux and can install a real Linux-partition straight or if needed after shrinking the Windows partition.

GrimyHR 2012-05-12 12:05
Re: Can you recommend a Linux version for beginner
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zimon (Post 1205634)
Depends on what Windows installer. Fedora's LiveUSB-creator for MS Windows will install Live Fedora Linux on a USB-stick without touching the MS Windows system. Then after booting with LiveUSB you are already in Linux and can install a real Linux-partition straight or if needed after shrinking the Windows partition.
instaler we are discussing is wubi, and that to which you are refering is NOT a windows instaler, it is a live usb creator, huge difference

don_falcone 2012-05-12 13:21
Re: Can you recommend a Linux version for beginner
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by geneven (Post 1205535)
I have recommended Mint myself many times, and was one of its early fans. I wonder why it borrowed so heavily from Ubuntu if Ubuntu is such horse manure. In fact, such intolerant rhetoric on your part says a lot more about you than about Ubuntu.
(I will omit going personal because this says alot more about you then)

- because its too easy to sit on the Ubuntu bandwagon / their huge package and services infrastructure instead of using a different base?

I wouldnt recommend Ubuntu for all the things they've done (Unity, the title bar buttons issue, at my time of usage one of the worst KDE integrations, but really for not listening to their base) but especially for their serious QA issues - how many, even LTS, releases were butchered because some packages or components just were rushed to be upgraded/switched to fit in their release cycle?); I was burned particularly of the failed PulseAudio integration (which gave PA itself a very bad light but most of the issues were Ubuntu only) and broken upgrade procedures which left the system unbootable. Some very good points were highlighted here and i endorse this article fully.

"Everyone is using it so it must be good" was never a sign for quality. And i expect _you_ to know that.

daperl 2012-05-12 13:24
Re: Can you recommend a Linux version for beginner
 
If you have the disk space, the memory and a good multi core machine, trying out different distros can be fun. So, forget the live CD route and go virtual; this is 2012 where rebooting is frowned upon.

Click here for more details:

https://www.virtualbox.org/

anonymous 2012-05-12 13:38
Re: Can you recommend a Linux version for beginner
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GrimyHR (Post 1205588)
DO NOT USE WINDOWS INSTALLER! and i can not emphasize this enough, this will install linux on the same partition as windows in a virtual partition which will result in two things:
no benefit from journaled fs
and much lower performance
The topic is Linux for the beginner. Not Linux for the server / performance geek / hacker. Performance and filesystem differences are not even on this guy's radar.

edit: oops. just noticed it's a workstation with RAID. valid point

If you want to introduce someone to using Linux, the easiest and safest way is still the ubuntu windows installer.

I'm actually quite surprised you wouldn't bring up "loadfont not found". If you upgrade the distro you get your first Linux troubleshooting experience and need to edit a config file from a livecd to get into Ubuntu again.

Other than that the Installer is quite nice.

DDH87 2012-05-12 13:52
Re: Can you recommend a Linux version for beginner
 
I have had a lot of Linux/windows machines in the past. The best way to install Linux, and for beginners I would say OpenSUSE, is to boot a install disk.

The OpenSUSE installer will tell you what to do and tells you what the best way is to partition the drives. And best of all. It will shrink any windows drive if needed but will try to avoid this.

Now I have been running a OpenSUSE installation just by itself. And you can just update to the new version. No need for a new install.

About the yast tools. There the best. have used most of the others around and start missing YaST.

BTW, SuSE is the only one that has the nVidia drivers packaged by nVidia themselves. So Just install the drive from Yast after the installation (cant be done at a new install due to licenses) and it will activate it by it self now extra steps needed.


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