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baboo

2012-05-28 21:30

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

Quote:

Originally Posted by patocr (Post 1214063)

is it me or... when is swipe it down, and don't recieve any msgs for a while, the app closes.
So after a while, when i open it again, it will do the full loading.
I have to left it open in the background apps (without swiping down) if i want i to to be really open.
Just me?

happens to me often

Dazsa

2012-05-28 22:02

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

Quote:

Originally Posted by patocr (Post 1214063)

same here! I guess the devs are still working on it

godofwar424

2012-05-28 23:01

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

Quote:

Originally Posted by super-hero (Post 1214037)

Ok so i turned off my online services, as @godofwar suggested. 'was logged into Facebook, Skype and MSN chat..." and I reset my settings (Not factory reset) and and rebooted with a 30sec off time... and it dipped from almost 200mA to 90mA... just thought those steps might help others... seems to be that there are some services that steal spotlight without thinking about the phones life line

Yeah services like Skype and MSN will drain your battery if your very active on them.

Facebook not so much :)

Next step is to open X-term and type

Code:

top

Then have a look at what is stealing all of your CPU :) Lemme know what the top processes are and I will try to give some info on what to do next :)

godofwar424

2012-05-29 00:06

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

@TGalal

Honestly my Wazapp just doesn't like running in the background, it keeps closing itself, meaning I get no messages until I manually open it and the Loading screen comes up.

When running from the terminal is runs fine and doesn't crash/close once! :(

Any suggestions other then the usual uninstall and reinstall stuff?

shmerl

2012-05-29 02:12

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZogG (Post 1212596)

Because no one force you to use it. Simple like that.
I for example wonder why is there Windows and why people not only use it, but pay for it.

OK, let's rephrase it. If you have time and resources to work on an open source mobile IM client, would it be worth helping to develop XMPP one? Especially since Peregrine development is halted, and they aren't working on audio/video (Jingle) calls now.

Luizhi

2012-05-29 04:10

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

because when people send me a message I listed?

soryuuha

2012-05-29 05:47

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

Quote:

Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1214165)

Whatsapp is XMPP

Muzimak

2012-05-29 06:14

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

Mine runs perfectly fine in the background, the only issues so far are:
-Under contacts, long 'status' still overlap the contact below.
-Time shown for messages received while the the App was down is always shown as current time.

shmerl

2012-05-29 08:00

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

Quote:

Originally Posted by soryuuha (Post 1214217)

Whatsapp is XMPP

Why is it called a proprietary then ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WhatsApp )

If it's XMPP, can you use the client to connect to any XMPP server and to communicate with other federated servers?

Etchelon

2012-05-29 11:26

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

Quote:

Originally Posted by godofwar424 (Post 1214122)

I haven't used it much, but version 1.8 didn't have that problem, versions 2.5 and 2.6 do.

godofwar424

2012-05-29 11:28

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

Quote:

Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1214258)

Why is it called a proprietary then ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WhatsApp )

If it's XMPP, can you use the client to connect to any XMPP server and to communicate with other federated servers?

Listen to the following to avoid this going off-topic and adding more non related to development stuff in this thread.

If you wish to talk about off-topic things, go to the off-topic section OR PM eachother, don't fill this thread with your arguments on whose software is better..

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZogG (Post 1212596)

But just so we wouldn't start off-topic you can ask those question in Old wazapp threads, as here we try to concentrate on development, bugs and improvements.

don_falcone

2012-05-29 11:42

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

Quote:

Originally Posted by soryuuha (Post 1214217)

Whatsapp is XMPP

...but "only" somehow encrypted and with a funky registration/activation procedure. Also, the client only talks to their servers. Missing much else?

Guinoak

2012-05-29 12:01

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

Hi All,

If anyone is having this issue on 0.2.6, just edit the file

Code:

/opt/waxmppplugin/bin/wazapp/walogin.py

And substitute

Code:

Utilities.debug("Account type: "+kind)

Code:

Utilities.debug("Account type: "+str(kind))

Running 0.2.6 nicely now.

Thanks tgalal !!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guinoak (Post 1213656)

Hi All,

I keep having trouble with walogin.py. I have not been able to use 0.2.5 nor 0.2.6. This last error is what I get on 0.2.6. Going back to 0.2.4.

Code:

Login Status: success

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "/opt/waxmppplugin/bin/wazapp/walogin.py", line 80, in run

    self.readSuccess();

  File "/opt/waxmppplugin/bin/wazapp/walogin.py", line 231, in readSuccess

    Utilities.debug("Account type: "+kind)

TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'NoneType' objects

        ONLINE

NET AVAILABLE

Entering critical area

inside critical area

Releasing lock

Checking for updates

Opening connection to wazapp.im

CepiPerez

2012-05-29 14:41

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

It's coming... need more deeper tests
Not sending, just receiving

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12134784/MEE...2_11-38-45.png

bnwg	2012-05-29 14:51

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

Quote:

Originally Posted by CepiPerez (Post 1214412)

It's coming... need more deeper tests
Not sending, just receiving

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12134784/MEE...2_11-38-45.png

This is a BIG step already. Thxk CepiPerez!

N9owner

2012-05-29 16:05

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

Quote:

Originally Posted by CepiPerez (Post 1214412)

It's coming... need more deeper tests
Not sending, just receiving

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12134784/MEE...2_11-38-45.png

CepiPerez godlike :D

CepiPerez

2012-05-29 16:38

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

I've got everything working
Images, videos, music, vcards and location

Now I need to know what media files are supported for making icons
I have jpg, png, mp3, 3gp, mp4

What files am I missing?

MAX9	2012-05-29 16:42

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

.mkv :D

Can't send a zip, or tar.gz?

youmeego

2012-05-29 16:43

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

any plan to reverse engineer viber And kindle reader?

m.h.e.r

2012-05-29 16:43

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

maybe office files ?

Thanks for your work guys :) you are the best :))

Dazsa

2012-05-29 16:43

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

Quote:

Originally Posted by CepiPerez (Post 1214462)

I've got everything working
Images, videos, music, vcards and location

Now I need to know what media files are supported for making icons
I have jpg, png, mp3, 3gp, mp4

What files am I missing?

gif for animated images

CepiPerez

2012-05-29 16:46

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

I'm talking about what type of files can be send through official whatsapp

Prestige

2012-05-29 16:48

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

Quote:

Originally Posted by CepiPerez (Post 1214470)

I'm talking about what type of files can be send through official whatsapp

Agreed..Anything else beyond the official app would be too much..
I mean there are other ways to send .zip files etc..

georgedarocha

2012-05-29 16:48

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

Quote:

Originally Posted by CepiPerez (Post 1214412)

It's coming... need more deeper tests
Not sending, just receiving

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12134784/MEE...2_11-38-45.png

why the time format on the title is 12 hours (am/pm) and on messages it is 24 hours?

shmerl

2012-05-29 16:49

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

If you mention other topics, please direct to them. I'm not following every single topic on TMO, and this one seems active about Wazzap, that's why I ask questions here.

shmerl

2012-05-29 16:51

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

Quote:

Originally Posted by don_falcone (Post 1214349)

...but "only" somehow encrypted and with a funky registration/activation procedure. Also, the client only talks to their servers. Missing much else?

By using WhatsApp or similar services / "apps" you participate in the promotion & spread of proprietary technologies and vendor / platform lock-in. It's bad for freedom, choice, and device / platform inter-operability. It's also contradicting the FOSS spirit, which plays an important part for this community. Plus, you hand control over to corporations which can discontinue service / cut you off any time.
Consider using free, fully comparable alternatives (XMPP and Pidgin, Miranda etc.) instead.

For some reason I think most folks here aren't getting the point. That's more sad regarding developers, who could help building good open source mobile XMPP/Jingle client, but instead they work on this.

godofwar424

2012-05-29 16:53

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

Quote:

Originally Posted by CepiPerez (Post 1214470)

I'm talking about what type of files can be send through official whatsapp

Well their iPhone version says

Quote:

MULTIMEDIA: Send Video, Images, and Voice notes to your friends and contacts

Im going to assume that is the standard range of files such as:

Video - MP4, 3GP (possibly avi)
Images - JPEG, GIF, BITMAP
Voice/Songs - MP3, WAV, M4A

godofwar424

2012-05-29 16:54

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

Quote:

Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1214475)

If you mention other topics, please direct to them. I'm not following every single topic on TMO, and this one seems active about Wazzap, that's why I ask questions here.

But you not asking about Wazzap.

You are asking about WhatsApp proprietary closed system which you clearly dislike, and you are using a development/bug reporting thread to do your voicing of your opinion.

You can make your own thread in the off-topic section and pm the ones you are arguing/debating with the link.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1214478)

Majority of the world couldn't give a rats about closed or open source, most people don't even know the difference, and unfortunately we all have friends who fall into that category, they choose to all use WhatsApp, which functions and is easy for even 'smart'phone users to use.
Compared to trying to get 10-20 people to use a more experimental piece of software, its easier to just have WhatsApp so we can talk to them people.

Besides having WhatsApp on the N9 is a good "screw you" to the developers and others who crippled it by denying us these apps.

MHD.KURDY-Lebanon

2012-05-29 16:56

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

Quote:

Originally Posted by CepiPerez (Post 1214462)

I've got everything working
Images, videos, music, vcards and location

Now I need to know what media files are supported for making icons
I have jpg, png, mp3, 3gp, mp4

What files am I missing?

sending/receiving???

N9owner

2012-05-29 16:58

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

Quote:

Originally Posted by MHD.KURDY-Lebanon (Post 1214482)

sending/receiving???

for now just receiving according to CepiPerez

CepiPerez

2012-05-29 16:59

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

Quote:

Originally Posted by MHD.KURDY-Lebanon (Post 1214482)

sending/receiving???

Receiving only
I think sending needs a different work
I'll see it after receiving works fine

shmerl

2012-05-29 17:06

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

I'm directing my questions to developers of this specific client, not to the creators of Whastup closed network (I don't care about the later and their network). I'm not saying that the client as is doesn't help anyone. But can developers make the client in generic fashion so it could be used for general purpose XMPP as well? Pidgin for example supports XMPP and bunch of proprietary networks as well. This client could implement a similar idea. Then it would be really good for the open source mobile community.

If you want to call it a "bug" thread - consider this a feature request then.

TMavica

2012-05-29 17:07

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

you are genius, work so fast

damuffinman

2012-05-29 17:10

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMavica (Post 1214492)

you are genius, work so fast

Source files are available already ah ma, gung hai fast la :D

soryuuha

2012-05-29 17:14

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

Quote:

Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1214491)

This : http://store.ovi.com/content/249452
and this is the thread : http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ht=extraplugin
now go rant there..lazy bums

shmerl

2012-05-29 17:17

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

Quote:

Originally Posted by soryuuha (Post 1214496)

This : http://store.ovi.com/content/249452
and this is the thread : http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ht=extraplugin
now go rant there..lazy bums

This has nothing to do with the client at hand. If you don't like off-topic - please don't engage in one. I'm talking about this particular client, not about frozen Nokia's code for XMPP. See my edited post above.

godofwar424

2012-05-29 18:51

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

Quote:

Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1214491)

Ah I see what your after now.

Problem is, the features of Wazapp aren't near to being complete and bug free, so the time scale of altering this to communicate with another server would not happen any time in the future, near enough for it to still be relevant.

Seeing as Wazapp has been designed solely for use with WhatsApp proprietary stuff, it would probably be easier to use the Source Code for this app and then create a port of it using a more open XMPP server.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1214497)

Im afraid his suggestion would be more viable, approaching the developers of that would be much more likely to help you out.

As it stands Wazapp is designed PURELY for WhatsApp and to change that would be to change a lot of its core code.

cacerolars

2012-05-29 19:07

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

I'm absolutely amazed with all the work going on on this app, thank you guys, its all happening very fast, yaaay :)

ZogG	2012-05-29 19:25

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

Quote:

Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1214478)

they are not your personal devs, and it wouldn't matter what you think, as they are developing and not you. If you want other client you are welcome to do it yourself. I can explain a lot of reasons why wazapp is better than other xmpp as mobile client, but this thread is about development. And you was asked politely not to talk offtopic here, as why it's developed is offtopic. You don't ask G+ why they do it when there is facebook. or yahoo if there is google or vice verse. It's not like they spent your tax money on developing wazapp client. If you don't find it useful, go and start developing your own useful apps. But for now you only harm the topic by polluting it with irrelevant info. Use search and you'll find all whatsapp and wazapp related topics, we have few of them on TMO, and if you, like you said, not that interesting in searching all over the TMO it's your own problem and don't make it's all other people reading this topic problem, as it's egoistic. Why do you think if you too lazy to find other topic, all active members of this thread need to be patient with you. With that approach you would never get anything you ask. Thank you and have a good day.... «I said good day»(c)

shmerl

2012-05-29 20:06

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9

Quote:

Originally Posted by godofwar424 (Post 1214537)

As it stands Wazapp is designed PURELY for WhatsApp and to change that would be to change a lot of its core code.

Thanks for the clarification. As with many cases, it spreads the community efforts thin.

ZogG: You conveniently ignored the point of the discussion (I think you understood the question well enough though). godofwar424 said above that the client is too limited at the moment and it's hard to make it generic. If you are a developer you can confirm this statement (or not). No one thinks that devs are someone's personal devs. But if you are scared of questions about community benefit from your applications - there is some serious problem.

Sure, if it's the question of no resources - then there is nothing to say. Developers do what they have time for. But if adding generic XMPP support doesn't cause overhead - they why not to propose it?

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