Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9
 

I'm sorry if i speak non-sense, since i don't really know much about coding and stuff, but about this "Selective Sync".. How would it work?

a) It'll be just a list with the address book contacts to choose manually those who we previously know that have a whatsapp account.

b) It will show only those of our contacts who do have whatsapp account to choose who we want on our contact list.

c) Some other way i haven't thought of but tgalal has.

I'm asking because a) wouldn't be practical at all for normal users, though they'd probably choose the auto sync option; and b) would be useless in terms of privacy protection (since it would require the availabilty check of our contacts accounts to know who we can sync in the app contact list)

So, summing up my doubts, will this be just a particular option for those concerned about privacy issues, and will require users to previously know or find out through other means who in their address book uses whatsapp?

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In whatsapp there is no way to know who in your contacts uses it unless you send their number to whatsapp, and whatsapp says Yes, this is a whatsapp user, or no. So in this selective sync, you will choose which contacts you want to ask whatsapp servers about, and if you are lucky they will end up in your wazapp contacts. You are just choosing which of your contacts to sync. That is the only solution with maximum possible privacy protection, because this is how whatsapp servers work. But if you have a better solution please let me know.

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Well I was exactly in the same situation, been registered whatsapp on both iphone and android, but now what is the solution....what do I need to do? Cancel iphone whatsapp or how? I really want to use wazapp on n9, pleaseeeee HELP HELP.

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I tried all methods you suggested but still failed...you know I waited almost whole night being so patient in awaiting to see my wazapp get done, well not working not working...!!!!

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Can anyone guide me how to run the codes in QT creator or some easy to use emulator to try this app out? I tried for days but just could figure out even with a lot of instructions from QT creator wiki.

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9
 

Ok guys! Take it easy. I just asked. I did a donation also, and without using the app so I just asked "if" and not "when". Be quiet and don't have a cow... Peace.

Different versions of different members
 

Pease don't post pictures, and bugs of versions that are not from the version 2.6 (or earlier), because then we will have 1 Version from tgalal, 1 version from cepiperez and many other versions from others... And this would appear to different bugs of different versions an no one is happy :(

so please post only bugs (or improvements) of the official wazapp version :cool:


& sry for my bad english, hope u understand my post ;)

Re: Different versions of different members
 

There is only one version! You misunderstand, the posts shown were of people getting the latest commits from github and then compiling them into their Wazapp app. There is still only one version, see it more as a DIY Alpha :)

It allows us techies to see the latest commits and actually use them, and then further bug report before the next release comes out :)

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9
 

Yeah, i pretty much understand how server queries work, that's why i was asking if the sync would require said query or not.

Unfortunately, i don't think there's any workaround to it, so as i said the only way to do a partial sync would be to find out ourselves which contacts are registered before we attempt to sync them. (or to blindly try our luck with a few selected contacts, as you said, which would sort of defeat the original purpose of not giving them more numbers than they already have)

The drawback of this is that (i suppose) it won't show automatically contacts who register in whatsapp sometime after we'd done the sync, so we'd have to wait for a message from said people to add them manually, or sync them manually once we found out they had registered.

As i see it, this kind of feature is useless for regular users as it is. But I'm glad you decided to take the time to provide a solution for those paranoid people (no offense intended) who can't bear with terms of service.

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Hi! I'm just reporting a bug/error here since all the emails I sent "tarek@wazapp.im" were rejected.

I have just installed this app and it does not launch. I click on it, an initializing screen opens and then it closes after a few seconds.

The last lines of the output of "/opt/waxmppplugin/bin/wazapp/wazapp" are:

"...
loaded messeges
com.tgalal.meego.MNotificationManager.wazappnotify
MApplicationService: registerService() registering failed
MApplicationService: Calling launch() in other application with service: "com.nokia.wazapp"
..."


I tried deleting my account, but this keeps happening.


I hope this can help improve this app and thank you very much.


PS: I had previously installed Wazapp 0.1.8. I uninstalled it before instaling this new version because I had the same problem.

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9
 

Please suggest how can i try the latest commits by downloading the files from github

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9
 

When will the new version be out?

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9
 

since the new version will probably include some new features, there's no point in asking when it will be released.

Just be patient, one just doesn't keep waiting for new updates to come one after another when it comes to apps and software in general.

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9
 

Ok, I have a question regarding Whatsapp and Wazapp. I keep alternating between Symbian N8 and my N9. I started using whatsapp recently.

I initially used Wazapp on N9 for some time , and since last one week I am on my N8 using Whatsapp(same sim card). Now, if I switch back to N9, do I have to setup the account again ? And if yes , how frequently can I switch between phones before Whatsapp servers block my account or do something funny !!?!

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9
 

Well, I could not wait, and switched over to my N9 to find out and Wazapp instructed to delete account and add it again, which I did and everything went smooth with the SMS registration.

Now the only question which remains is, how often/frequently you can switch and register by SMS . To quote my experience, I had first registered on May 18th on N9, then switched to N8 on May 29, and today on June 9 switched back to N9 . That makes it 3 times within a month . Has anyone tried more frequent than this ?

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9
 

I am still repeatedly recieving the crash from Wazapp, mostly from switching between WiFi and 3G but also just completely random, always the same Socket Read Error and then Bad Sector and then crash.

I have tried CepiPerez's little code tweak and I still receive this error. hopefully this is being worked on for a future release. Its not major, just a little bit annoying, so I am running from the console now as at least that way I have a visible way to see if its crashed or not.

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9
 

Not sure if there's a limited period to switch between phones, or if it's about number of times done. Since whatsapp.inc has no interest in users using whatsapp in many different devices with same sim card.

The more logic choice (from my personal point of view) is to just stick to one phone for whatsapp use, which could be the one without the sim card, since whatsapp doesn't need it for it to work after you've registered. At least, not in android (I've tested this behaviour with a Samsung Galaxy I9003 and using Bluestack to emulate android system on my computer)

Edit: just to be sure i make myself clear.. Whatsapp takes into account the device IMEI during login and not the sim card presence. And as it can use wifi to send and receive messages, sim card is actually not needed for anything but receiving the sms during register (and 3g, if you really need it), so after you've done that, you can take it and place in another phone WITHOUT trying to login into whatsapp in that new phone.

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9
 

hello there..question for cepieperez..u were working on multimedia receiving...ur stil workin on it or u moved to sending also?

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9
 

Hello, people!

I was talking to a friend that has Whatsapp on her phone and today she asked why I am aways "Online" on Wazapp. I saw Whatsapp on her phone and it's true. I am the only friend of her aways online. Does it means that with Wazapp we are aways sending and receiving data over 3g (or wifi) while their Whatsapp waits for a push for checking for new messages? Is that the reason why we've got such a big current consumption?

Thank you all. Good job with Wazapp!

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i don't have a big consumption, but i realized the fact that we're the only persons who are online all the time... is it maybe possible that this will be fixed that we are just shown as online when the app is open and not when it runs just in the background?

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just to share that this is not true for symbian belle. Whatsapp on my N8 require a sim card to initialise. Once initialised, you can use wifi to send and receive and remove the sim card.

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9
 

once the app is running in foreground or background you will be shown online as the app is on, quit the app to go offline.

why would you want it running in the background doing nothing but consuming power.

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What do you mean with "Initialise"? Is the simcard needed even to open the app itself? Then I guess it's a "drawback" Android version doesn't have, otherwise you wouldn't be able to use whatsapp on android emulators on a pc.

Just in case, What I meant on my post is the following:

1) You turn on the phone with simcard inserted.
2) You open whatsapp and register through sms or whatever you want.
3) You turn off the phone and remove simcard, then turn it on again.
4) Use whatsapp as usual, through wifi only, since 3g/2g/H/Gprs need the simcard.

Of course, doing this would allow you to use the simcard in another phone, while still using ONLY the first phone to use whatsapp. However, if what you say it's true, i don't see why it would need the simcard just to open the app.

I don't see it as a bug or something to fix, but as a fact.. if you have the app running on the background is because you're "online" at the time.

As you've been told, "Quit" the app when you won't use it, and the consumption will be gone, that's a exclusive feature wazapp provides.

It's not doing "nothing", it's open so you can get new messages, that's why you appear as online. If you quit the app, you won't get any messages until you open it again, at least that's how i see it, correct me if i'm wrong.

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9
 

@Faku1810
My point was what would be the purpose of having the app offline running in the background it would make no sense. You have taken it upon yourself to answer (out of context) a question which was only ment to make Snooky think.

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9
 

Yes, it's better to be shown online! I was just wondering if this could reduce the power consumption. I mean: If we're aways online, does it means that we're aways having communication? If not, fine! But if yes, it's not so efficient, right?

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9
 

The whole purpose of being on line is so the app can communicate.
The fact the app is on in the background would mean it is consuming power, if you have battery usage installed you can check and see what the consumption is.

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@jpetrise, Oh, i see... sorry, i didn't realize that was your intention. And yeah, i have a bad habit of sticking my nose.. My apologies.

@Brudhu, just like jpetrise said, the way the app works is indeed efficient because it allows you to stay communicated as long as you don't quit the app.

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it was not my intention to attack you, there is no need for a apology if anything i should apologise to you which i would like to do for my abrupt tone.

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9
 

The battery consumption thing is probably one of the things Wazapp manages best, if you check your average idle consumption using the Battery Usage App you will see that Wazapp hardly even increases the Idle.

Maybe by 2-3mA which is not gonna affect your daily run time, maybe reduce it by 10-20 minutes or so.

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A repeated crash that I keep on getting more then twice a day :(

Heres a section of the log containing the crash:

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9
 

i totaly get your point... but this was not what i wanted to say... of course it doesn't make sense to let it run offline in the background... i was just thinking if it is possible that if it's in the background the app itself is still online and is possible to get messages but other whatsapp user don't get the message that i'm online at the moment...

i like the fact that we can run it in the background... but i don't like that it looks like i have nothing else to do then beeing in wazapp :P

you understand may way of thinking?

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9
 

@snooky, I get what you mean, in original whatsapp, you'd see "last time seen ..." if that user has the app running in background or offline, and "online" if it has the app open at the time.

However, wazapp stays online even if it's in background. If we take into account the fact that one is "offline" only after quitting the app, i can think of two options to explain this behaviour..

1) It's related to the ping the app sends every 3 minutes, making the server think the app itself is open all the time, supposing the ping stops when you're not connected to wifi/3g or have quitted the app.

2) Similar to #1, it could be something within the original whatsapp code that lets the server know if the app is open or in the background. Some kind of "signal" sent when you close the app, or the lack of said signal, that is, the signal is sent only while the app is open and it stops when it's closed, just like wazapp ping.

So, if tgalal or some other dev could try removing the ping, and check if this affects the online/offline display, i think it would be a good start.

However, since ping is required to keep the connection alive, i'm not sure if removing it would affect significantly the functionality of wazapp. Not to mention it is not that important at all whether you appear online or not, so it could be just a minor detail to look at.

@jpetrise, don't worry, it's alright ;)

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@faku1810

yeah u got exactly what i mean. i'm just no dev or something like this so i couldn't explain it like you :)
i just try to follow the wazapp developement because its interesting and i try to help...

maybe you or someone else who is able to explain it that way can post this issue on github?

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9
 

Done, though i'm not quite sure if i made myself clear, check it here and see if there's something you might want to add.

https://github.com/tgalal/wazapp/issues/58

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Need Image Receiving :(

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CepiPerez has answered this nicely, this behavior seems pretty normal to me too, if the App is in the background or minimized, U still online, if U quit the app U now offline. Besides, battery life has always been poor prior Wazapp, we got used to it, and with Wazapp included, to me it's still takes the same time as before as I simply replaced Ebuddy XMS with it.

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9
 

it's fine... tgalal said it should already be like this... otherwise it's a bug

Re: [Announce] Wazapp Public Beta for N9
 

ok... are there any builds i can test? cant wait anymore, tingly feeling of new software is getting the best of me hehe

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Yes, if someone posts a small how to to get the latest from GIT on our phone, it would be really great. I always used to compile stuff from KDE SVN/GIT to get bugfixes etc, but I am a little noob here on how to get code on to the phone.