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Scorpius 2012-07-10 18:24

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Not right now but soon.

Because of things like that, and things like want to add participants in a group and stuff like that were the reason that I had to implement some contact persistence and that's what I'm working on right now.

malkavian 2012-07-10 19:34

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpius (Post 1235379)
I'll post a more detailed ToDo list (with the order I'm doing things) than the one we already have.

Great :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpius (Post 1235379)
No need to modify your contacts anymore with a plus (+) sign, you can read the status of all your contacts, you can see the pictures of them (the same you have in your address book so far), and it's SAFE it's not a violation of your privacy.

Yes, it is a privacy violation. Whastapp violates my privacy getting AND saving all my contacts numbers. If Yappari send all my contacts too, sadly, I won't use it (or won't update it). I need something to to tell Yappari I just want to send to Whatsapp Inc. data of contacts I know they are Whatsapp users. If only contacts with the international prefix are synchronized I could somehow control it, if not, I'm f*cked.

Happily someday will be a Wazzap N900 version and it will respect privacy better than Whatsapp. They will add an option to sync only the selected contacts: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...postcount=1343

mr_pingu 2012-07-10 21:01

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
If you friends have whatsapp, they already have your number uploaded in their database. Nothing you can do about that :(

malkavian 2012-07-10 21:13

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
I asked Whatsapp Inc. to remove my number from they databases and they supossely did it.

I registered whatsapp with an alias number from fonyou.com. Not all my 1161 contacts (some repeated or with just email/facebook-chat/gtalk/msn address) uses whatsapp. I just added the ones wich I know they uses it.

Scorpius 2012-07-11 00:43

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Yappari doesn't upload any of your private information to Whatsapp servers. It just queries "what is the status of number +x?" and the server says "status is y" or "user not registered". You can even do it manually using curl or wget. That's not a violation of your privacy, Whatsapp can't save the numbers there's not way to relate them.

And like I told you before each one of your 1161 contacts is the contact of somebody else that use Whatsapp, which is querying those numbers anyway.

Also and as a final note, if you are really making a stand that Whatsapp Inc is violating your privacy then why are you using it? That's double moral standard what you're trying to do (cheating, registering with a fake number, etc). You should try to convince other users not to use it, instead of trying to cheat Whatsapp. Don't you think?

aakash_scsa_hellyeah 2012-07-11 01:10

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Hey Scorpius.
Thanks a lot for the app
I successfully installed it but when i tried to register it always saying failed but i recieved sms from yappari about the authentication code.
Still the registraytion status is failed.

&
for log, i tried to locate file with 'filebox' but there is no such directory
Quote:

/home/user/.config/scorpius/yappari.log
The Scorpius folder is not present in
/home/user/.config/

Reply Soon

Scorpius 2012-07-11 01:14

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
The .config folder is a hidden folder so you need some kind of Unix/Linux experience to get into it.

One way is to go to settings in FileBox and check "Show hidden files and folders"

Another way to get it is to open a terminal and type exactly this:

cp .config/scorpius/yappari.log MyDocs

And then a copy of yappari.log will be under MyDocs.

Also check you're running the latest version (0.0.16) because some previous versions had the log somewhere else.

aakash_scsa_hellyeah 2012-07-11 01:21

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Thanks For Your Reply.
Installed ver. is 0.0.16 Build 1729

here is the xterm response
Quote:

cp: cannot stat 'cp .config/scorpius/yappari.log' No such file or directory

Scorpius 2012-07-11 01:27

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Then try this. Open terminal, type:

mkdir -p .config/scorpius

Then try to register with Yappari again and tell me if you see the log this time.

You can also check "Show hidden files and folders" in Filebox so you can browse into .config and other hidden folders.

aakash_scsa_hellyeah 2012-07-11 01:39

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpius (Post 1235732)
Then try this. Open terminal, type:

mkdir -p .config/scorpius

Then try to register with Yappari again and tell me if you see the log this time.

Yes, this thing worked.
Here's the log file

http://uppit.com/txsxozicbjqu/yappari.log

Scorpius 2012-07-11 01:51

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
It says you didn't get the SMS in 2 minutes so it timed out. Did you receive it before it timed out?

What does the SMS say exactly?

aakash_scsa_hellyeah 2012-07-11 01:54

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
I received sms two days ago when I tried to register for second time after installation.
"WhatsApp code 279"

Scorpius 2012-07-11 01:57

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
But it only works if you receive it before two minutes after you request it. If you receive it hours later it won't ever work...

So, if every time you try to register you don't get the SMS before two minutes Yappari won't register it. If you receive it later there's nothing you can do, until Voice Method registration is implemented, so you can type the code manually.

ANYWAY: I registered your account manually so you can try running Yappari again and it should be registered already. Try it.

aakash_scsa_hellyeah 2012-07-11 02:02

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
That means I have to wait till the next release of application?
Thanks for Your responses, I'll wait till the feature to be implemented.

Scorpius 2012-07-11 02:04

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Read the edit: I registered your account. Yappari will ask you for your country code and phone number one last time and then it should log you in.

Dre 2012-07-11 04:05

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by malkavian (Post 1235525)
Great :)



Yes, it is a privacy violation. Whastapp violates my privacy getting AND saving all my contacts numbers. If Yappari send all my contacts too, sadly, I won't use it (or won't update it). I need something to to tell Yappari I just want to send to Whatsapp Inc. data of contacts I know they are Whatsapp users. If only contacts with the international prefix are synchronized I could somehow control it, if not, I'm f*cked.

Happily someday will be a Wazzap N900 version and it will respect privacy better than Whatsapp. They will add an option to sync only the selected contacts: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...postcount=1343

I think Whatsapp is not for you!

ajack 2012-07-11 04:30

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
@Scorpius:

Did you manage to read my feature request? Regarding Yappari showing all stored/cached conversations so that we can delete them.

Also, can the app do a version check so that users are notified on new versions being made available.

Just asking... Thanks for your efforts...

Scorpius 2012-07-11 04:52

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
ajack you can delete the conversation through the menu of a conversation window.

You can also go to /home/user/.yappari/logs and delete files individually.

Yappari is alpha. When Yappari is ready it'll be in the repositories so there's no need for an external server to notify about your updates. I do need people read this thread all the time. You guys are supposed to be testers, not users, and this thread is our method for feedback. Yappari shouldn't be used by final users yet.

ajack 2012-07-11 06:15

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpius (Post 1235790)
ajack you can delete the conversation through the menu of a conversation window.

You can also go to /home/user/.yappari/logs and delete files individually.

Yes, I don't mind doing it manually... Didn't know about the logs being kept there...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpius (Post 1235790)
Yappari is alpha. When Yappari is ready it'll be in the repositories so there's no need for an external server to notify about your updates. I do need people read this thread all the time. You guys are supposed to be testers, not users, and this thread is our method for feedback. Yappari shouldn't be used by final users yet.

You have a point about the repos... Thanks. :p

lordcris 2012-07-11 15:59

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Scorpius,
Thanks for the great app. I've been using if for the last 2 months and never had any problem.
God bless you and your boyfriend!

Scorpius 2012-07-11 16:15

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
My boyfriend?!? I'm male!

som3a 2012-07-11 16:36

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
i have one Q ,,

is there is any way i can copy something from the chat ?
cuz some times i do need to copy a couple of lines !!

Scorpius 2012-07-11 16:39

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Nope, no copy/paste yet.

Shinigamijim 2012-07-11 17:04

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
I dont much to say besides thank you again.

There are 2: "I'm using Yapari!" which i just found out today :)

abchobby 2012-07-11 18:11

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
wow
I've installed now this app and I say you "Thank you"
My only request is the possibility to send photos!!!

Scorpius 2012-07-11 18:15

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Sending multimedia messages will take a while to implement. Receiving pictures (without sending) will be implemented soon (in like 2 or 3 weeks).

Right now I'm working in contacts synchronization, after that I'll dedicate exclusively to smileys I guess, and then reception of pictures. Sending them is another topic, which is a little bit complicated (I still have to hack the method of uploading a picture to a Whatsapp server).

c4rl05 2012-07-11 18:34

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpius (Post 1236222)
Right now I'm working in contacts synchronization, after that I'll dedicate exclusively to smileys I guess, and then reception of pictures. Sending them is another topic, which is a little bit complicated (I still have to hack the method of uploading a picture to a Whatsapp server).

you are doin a great job pal, much thanx, cant wait for the coming updates.

Scorpius 2012-07-11 18:38

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
If you're wondering how to pronounce Yappari...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CtxW...tailpage#t=17s

When was the last time you had a Yappari moment? :D

abchobby 2012-07-11 18:48

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
yes, you do a great job :)
I'm waiting for the future release!

abchobby 2012-07-11 18:53

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpius (Post 1236222)
Sending multimedia messages will take a while to implement. Receiving pictures (without sending) will be implemented soon (in like 2 or 3 weeks).

Right now I'm working in contacts synchronization, after that I'll dedicate exclusively to smileys I guess, and then reception of pictures. Sending them is another topic, which is a little bit complicated (I still have to hack the method of uploading a picture to a Whatsapp server).

In fact I can't see all the contacts in my address book who have WhatsApp
I'm waiting :D and thank's a lot!!

kayaman_00 2012-07-11 21:04

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
abchobby , you must add the contact in the international phone number format...as in +COUNTRYCODE before the number..

Wreck 2012-07-12 06:25

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abchobby (Post 1236248)
In fact I can't see all the contacts in my address book who have WhatsApp
I'm waiting :D and thank's a lot!!

For example your friends number would be:

0612345678

Then you would have to change this to:

+39612345678

Not sure if this will change in the future when contact sync is made. I'll leave that for Scorpius heh.

abchobby 2012-07-12 07:46

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kayaman_00 (Post 1236292)
abchobby , you must add the contact in the international phone number format...as in +COUNTRYCODE before the number..

oh... right!!
I've read about it but I forgot to modify my contact number!!! thank's for reminder me!!!

abchobby 2012-07-12 07:48

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wreck (Post 1236403)
For example your friends number would be:

0612345678

Then you would have to change this to:

+39612345678

Not sure if this will change in the future when contact sync is made. I'll leave that for Scorpius heh.

I've add the international country code and now I'll see all my contacts!!
thank's

malkavian 2012-07-12 09:58

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpius (Post 1235712)
Yappari doesn't upload any of your private information to Whatsapp servers. It just queries "what is the status of number +x?" and the server says "status is y" or "user not registered". You can even do it manually using curl or wget. That's not a violation of your privacy, Whatsapp can't save the numbers there's not way to relate them.

I know, i found ruby script for asking about a range of numbers. Whatsapp Inc. does save that data as said in privacy policy, and all the data obtained could be selled in a future. That's a privacy violation and Whatsapp might be banned in Spain because here, Whatsapp privacy policy is incompatible with privacy laws. No way to relate them? I suppose they have a great tree of human mobile relationships.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpius (Post 1235712)
And like I told you before each one of your 1161 contacts is the contact of somebody else that use Whatsapp, which is querying those numbers anyway.

Maybe, maybe not. I want to do my best respecting my and others privacy. I know my friends don't have that respect for it, but if they throw themselves from a window, I won't do XD.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpius (Post 1235712)
Also and as a final note, if you are really making a stand that Whatsapp Inc is violating your privacy then why are you using it? That's double moral standard what you're trying to do (cheating, registering with a fake number, etc).

Because I can use a number not easily related to me (first I tried to register with an absolutely fake number) and add only contacts I knwo use it. If in a future my N900 broke and I have to get and Android, I won't use the oficial Whatsapp client. I prefer to pay for SMSs and continue using only Google-talk (That's what I done until Whatsapp Java por arrived to N900, while friends tell me to buy a new smartphone).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpius (Post 1235712)
You should try to convince other users not to use it, instead of trying to cheat Whatsapp. Don't you think?

I tried, I even argued in various forums about that and another 15 reasons for whatsapp being worse than other Instant Messengers, being maybe google-talk the better.

But sadly most of my android-user-friends even deactivated google-talk and only use whatsapp.

mr_pingu 2012-07-12 10:19

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
You are scared of privacy of whatsapp and yet you use android. :O

malkavian 2012-07-12 10:27

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_pingu (Post 1236496)
You are scared of privacy of whatsapp and yet you use android. :O

I don't use Android, selected Maemo :) Did you read google privacy policy? I don't know about Android particular privacy (if it is different from Google general's one). Which are the privacy problems you see on Android?

Dre 2012-07-12 11:21

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
malkavian, I think you should start a new thread against Whatsapp and stop whining about their privacy policy on any developer thread you can find!!!

Scorpius 2012-07-12 12:26

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
@malkavian if you want to use Whatsapp you should comply to their policy. I should not give you a way to circumvent it. If you feel the friends pressure, then you should just give up.

If I add a way to avoid sync, it'll be just because bandwidth utilization (which is kinda big) not because a privacy violation. There's no privacy violation, Whatsapp is not wrong here, YOU are. The privacy policy says they save the status information, that's it. They are NOT saving who's querying who.

I just don't feel right when you say you want to use Whatsapp under YOUR conditions and not theirs. What's that? If you are a man of principles just don't use it. I'm a man of principles and I don't really want to give you a way to use the service they are giving you for FREE under conditions different than the ones Whatsapp Inc proposed.

If you're concerned about privacy then don't use a cellphone, because every time you make a call your cell phone company will save that number as your contact. Don't use the Internet either, every time you type an URL dozens of computers are saving everything you do. Don't use Google Chrome they save your passwords so if you use Chrome in another computer you don't need to type them, etc.

... and I'm sure after a year you won't pay for Whatsapp anyway so you should just give up now.

Have you ever used an Android? the very first thing it does is synchronize all your address book emails everything with every detail to Google. Nobody cares about that but you.

ginggs 2012-07-12 13:30

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tonypower88 (Post 1219763)
Is it possible to have http proxy support with authention ( userame & password ) ? like pidgin

I cannot connect to whatsapp service using yappari on the campus because they have http proxy with authention

I might be able to help with this.

@tonypower88 & ahmadamaj: What proxy server do your institutions or companies use?

@Scorpius: Will Yappari honour $http_proxy if it is set?


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