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gkhnkrts7 2012-07-22 08:28

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Testing right now.. Thnx :)

llucax 2012-07-22 09:01

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpius (Post 1241079)
Actually I didn't notice the high CPU during sync and kinda high resident memory so I guess I'll work on that for the next release.

Anyway like I said it's an early release so it's supposed to suck a little bit.

Completely understood, please don't take it as as complaint but as a beta testing report, which I thought it was the point of making an early release, to test it and report issues :)

Still waiting for the source to be released to help out ;)

gkhnkrts7 2012-07-22 09:15

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Wow.. It worked great... Now yappari shows me only who use whatsapp.... Thnx a lot... But it is a bit slow, isn't it.....

omar9224 2012-07-22 09:16

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
working fine , but still no multimedia msgs? when will we be able to send and receive photos audios?

Scorpius 2012-07-22 09:37

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by omar9224 (Post 1241123)
working fine , but still no multimedia msgs? when will we be able to send and receive photos audios?

In a couple of months I guess, maybe even more.

Wreck 2012-07-22 10:34

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Superb!
Everything is working fine. Is it possible to use the picture's you already have with your contacts? For example Hermes grabs the pictures from Facebook.

If I find any bugs would you rather have me post them here or in a PM?

GAMY 2012-07-22 11:05

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
I use Yappari weeks ago, really good and I'm glad.

But my question: how can I use with "Emoticons" on Yappari?
Only I can saw "Emoticons" from another (send an message to me)

Can someone tell me how?

Thank you!

rayson 2012-07-22 12:07

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GAMY (Post 1241178)
I use Yappari weeks ago, really good and I'm glad.

But my question: how can I use with "Emoticons" on Yappari?
Only I can saw "Emoticons" from another (send an message to me)

Can someone tell me how?

Thank you!

read the front page :rolleyes:

RX-51 2012-07-22 12:19

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Great update, thanks! What do I have to do to preserve message history from 0.0.16 over to 0.0.18? (Sry when I missed that on pages before, haven't found it)

lazyfai 2012-07-22 15:58

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Thanks for the update, now I can send message to anyone in my contact without modification of contact list.

bozoid 2012-07-22 16:01

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpius (Post 1240523)
....

Why would anyone want to use the same number in two different devices anyway? If I have two phones, then I have two different SIMs!

I just don't get people sometimes...

Well, I'd like to have it as I travel often. I use a prepaid SIM when in a foreign country. It's a *lot* cheaper to use data plan from a prepaid SIM than to do data roaming. While using a prepaid SIM, unfortunately, most messages only go to my postpaid SIM #. The prepaid SIM # would change over time & I'd prefer not to register it in whatsapp.

ajack 2012-07-22 16:39

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
@Scorpius:

A suggested feature...

I have 2000+ contacts in my phone and they are all in international format. May I suggest that you place a progress bar when doing a sync with whatsapp server?

Scorpius 2012-07-22 18:02

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wreck (Post 1241162)
Is it possible to use the picture's you already have with your contacts? For example Hermes grabs the pictures from Facebook.

Yappari uses the pictures of your contacts from your address book, so I don't know what you mean.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RX-51 (Post 1241208)
Great update, thanks! What do I have to do to preserve message history from 0.0.16 over to 0.0.18? (Sry when I missed that on pages before, haven't found it)

Don't worry about that. When you click on a contact if it has history you'll see it. When you close a chat the history won't be deleted.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajack (Post 1241286)
I have 2000+ contacts in my phone and they are all in international format. May I suggest that you place a progress bar when doing a sync with whatsapp server?

Contacts synchronization should be transparent running in background like in the original Whatsapp application. Contact synchronization can take a long time, if I put a progress bar then you couldn't use Yappari every time it syncs for 5 minutes.

Right now it makes Yappari laggy but the idea is to work on that and fix it so even if the synchronization takes 20 minutes you don't even notice and keep working with Yappari with no issues.

karatestarfish 2012-07-23 06:18

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpius (Post 1241065)
If you have one of those weird phobias like paranoia or persecution phobia you should go to a doctor but to avoid a panic attack in the meantime...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpius (Post 1241065)
Even though there are some people here that will claim contacts synchronization is a privacy issue, it is not.

Not everyone agrees with you.

Is there any chance that we can all just agree to disagree and you can stop insulting people who have a different opinion to you?

zwevert 2012-07-23 07:45

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpius (Post 1241137)
In a couple of months I guess, maybe even more.

Scorpius, maybe it is asked already but is it maybe possible to show only the https-link to a picture in the chat-window?
For now I keep searching in the log-file for urls but it should be easier as it is shown in the chat-window...

nokix 2012-07-23 08:21

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.17
 
I just happened to reflash my device 24 hours ago to test CSSU and hostmode-gui on kernel-power-flasher. So I installed everything after reflashing and found that mscim didn't work on yappari again (remember me, Scorpius?). This had happened before with some other apps that I wanted to try (e.g. jspeed, cell-modem-ui, etc), even with mscim-bridge-client-qt4 installed. In order for me to use mscim on yappari, I have to choose not to use those apps, which is fine as they are not critical. So now I'm reflashing again and installing yappari first, then installing other apps one by one to find out which app is crashing mscim/yappari (and I have to reboot after installing each app!). I hope it's not one of CSSU, hostmode-gui or kernel-power-flasher because I really like to have them.

Anyway, the above is just a side story. The following is what I'd like to report.

Since I just reflashed my device, I installed afresh the 0.0.17 deb instead of upgrading from 0.0.16. After installing 0.0.17, I could not register. The progress bar just kept going for 2 minutes, before the main window showed up with the message "The verification SMS was never received. Please try later." showing in the status area. No logs or yappari.conf were created. So I uninstalled 0.0.17, installed 0.0.16, registered, and upgraded to 0.0.17. And things seem to work fine so far.

Mohammed Muid 2012-07-23 11:27

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.17
 
contacts doesnt sync. i clicked sync now and it lagged a bit after that but nothing happens. although there are many contacts in my list who uses whatsapp

figaro 2012-07-23 12:41

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.17
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mohammed Muid (Post 1241570)
contacts doesnt sync. i clicked sync now and it lagged a bit after that but nothing happens. although there are many contacts in my list who uses whatsapp

1. Have you reboot after installing Yappari?
2. If your contacts are not in international format, did you use the correct country code while registering? (you might want to recheck your .conf file)
3. Are your contacts using non-digit characters/spaces? (Although this supposed to be supported on this release as well IIRC)

Hensch 2012-07-23 12:50

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.17
 
I updated from v0.0.16 to v0.0.17 today and everything is working as proposed. Good job Scorpius ;)

osjh 2012-07-23 15:00

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.17
 
download link is broken, please make a mirror :(
ps: guess uppit storage servers is down.

es11pro 2012-07-23 15:52

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.17
 
.Hello scorpius,when i press the download button in http://uppit.com/evgjyn5qsrsr/yappari_0.0.17_armel.deb appears a web with an error message :confused:

404 Not Found

nginx

where i can update 0.0.16 version to 0.017 by xterminal or another web

thanks master

mlwane 2012-07-23 17:01

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.17
 
@osjh & es11pro

here you go: http://ubuntuone.com/1z9gwcu6gjTvRCFbaORWgD

@Scorpius
contacts sync is working great, thanks for your work :)

harry_e20000 2012-07-23 17:19

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.17
 
got no ish with yappari...contact sync works superb without laggin on ma n900...thanks scorpius

PartyboyXP 2012-07-23 17:25

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.17
 
Contacts sync works better than the original whatsapp, you rockz man! Thank you very much!!!

c4rl05 2012-07-23 19:28

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.17
 
sync work like a dream, but i have a question do we still need to change our contacts to internatiaonal format because after sync some contact didnt appear but when i changed em to international format and re-sync they appeared, do we need to do this again or not?

llucax 2012-07-23 19:29

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.17
 
is it safe to downgrade from 0.0.17 to 16? either 17 is doing more stuff in background or the higher memory comsumption is making it being swapped out and is making my phone more laggy

Scorpius 2012-07-23 19:46

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.17
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by c4rl05 (Post 1241826)
sync work like a dream, but i have a question do we still need to change our contacts to internatiaonal format because after sync some contact didnt appear but when i changed em to international format and re-sync they appeared, do we need to do this again or not?

If the contact is an international contact, you have to do it anyway. If it's a local contact you don't need to.

If it's a local contact without an area code, you have to at least add the area code.

Quote:

Originally Posted by llucax (Post 1241828)
is it safe to downgrade from 0.0.17 to 16? either 17 is doing more stuff in background or the higher memory comsumption is making it being swapped out and is making my phone more laggy

0.0.17 is not doing anything in the background but it keeps more things in resident memory so the memory consumption is higher. I'm working on optimize that to have the same memory consumption than 0.0.16.

It's safe to downgrade.

Quote:

Originally Posted by karatestarfish (Post 1241459)
Not everyone agrees with you.

People who doesn't agree with Whatsapp principles and STILL want to use it DO have problems. Make your stand and stop using Whatsapp at once!

Quote:

Originally Posted by nokix (Post 1241499)
Since I just reflashed my device, I installed afresh the 0.0.17 deb instead of upgrading from 0.0.16. After installing 0.0.17, I could not register. The progress bar just kept going for 2 minutes, before the main window showed up with the message "The verification SMS was never received. Please try later." showing in the status area. No logs or yappari.conf were created. So I uninstalled 0.0.17, installed 0.0.16, registered, and upgraded to 0.0.17. And things seem to work fine so far.

Yes, I just confirmed registration stopped working in 0.0.17. Thanks for the report!

tonypower88 2012-07-23 20:46

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.17
 
For version 0.0.17, is there a significant difference in 3G data usage with the new feature contact sync ?

I didn't upgrade to v0.0.17 yet

Scorpius 2012-07-23 21:13

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.17
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tonypower88 (Post 1241867)
For version 0.0.17, is there a significant difference in 3G data usage with the new feature contact sync ?

I didn't upgrade to v0.0.17 yet

Depends on the number of contacts. A good number would be the number of contacts you have times 90. So if you have 1000 contacts you'll be consuming ~85 KB every time you connect to Whatsapp servers.

In an official Whatsapp client would be that number every hour, so if you have 1000 contacts you'll be consuming around ~2 MB each day.

I have this idea about "Smart sync" to optimize that a little bit. Something like sync your whole address book once a day, and every hour sync just confirmed Whatsapp users (so people's status would be refreshed every hour). Maybe code a GUI to configure it even more. There are some people that just don't care about people's status and could turn that off or set it like once a day or something like that.

Other people just LOVE reading people's status like every minute and would love to sync even more often than an hour. That's why the option "Sync Now" was added, for those status freaks :)

tig3r81 2012-07-23 21:14

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.17
 
Great Job Scorpius. Thank's a lot. Sync works very well.

malkavian 2012-07-23 21:17

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpius (Post 1241065)
If you have one of those weird phobias like paranoia or persecution phobia you should go to a doctor

It's really needed to insult other opinions and decisions?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpius (Post 1241065)
Code:

sync=intl
That will make Yappari only load the numbers in international format from your address book and sync those. Also numbers must have a plus sign and only digits, no spaces, no dashes, no parenthesis, etc.

Thank you very much Scorpius :) I known there was a good person inside the insulting one XD.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpius (Post 1241065)
Even though there are some people here that will claim contacts synchronization is a privacy issue, it is not.

I don't know in your country but in Europe the law consider that a mobile number is a private data. Some business have been fined here after accidentally disclosing mobile numbers of their clients.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpius (Post 1241065)
(they could link them to you by your IP address but I'm sure they don't do it).

How? Do you work at Whatsapp Inc.? The numbers could be linked to other numbers making a social relationship tree. Status messages are recorded too. Images and multimedia are maintained in servers for some time.

With the actual (improved over old one) privacy policy I think that no more data is gotten. But privacy policy could change in the future without notification.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpius (Post 1241065)
Also you'll be amazed that +95% of your contact list uses Whatsapp.

I am sure that it is not my case, but yes, most of young people and lot of older one use it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpius (Post 1241834)
People who doesn't agree with Whatsapp principles and STILL want to use it DO have problems. Make your stand and stop using Whatsapp at once!

Re-read the use terms of whatsapp, you are violating at least one of them.

Thank you again :)

Scorpius 2012-07-23 21:27

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by malkavian (Post 1241880)
How? Do you work at Whatsapp Inc.? The numbers could be linked to other numbers making a social relationship tree. Status messages are recorded too. Images and multimedia are maintained in servers for some time.

If you ever work in a corporation you should know there's not time to do that stupid stuff. That's what I mean when some people have paranoia. They just DON'T DO that, it's a WASTE OF TIME, and that would mean NO REVENUE. Corporations just exist because of REVENUE. A bunch of random phone numbers don't create any REVENUE. NOBODY wants to buy a bunch or random phone numbers even though you think they will. IT IS NOT THE SAME that a bunch of random email addresses (why? "block" is the key word).

Status and images are in the policy. Actually that's the ONLY thing they put in the policy that they save.

Quote:

Re-read the use terms of whatsapp, you are violating at least one of them.
There was an effort here to contact Whatsapp and ask them for an N900 version. We did it, they refused it. If they come here today and say "We'll be making a Whatsapp for the N900", I would immediately stop developing Yappari in the spot.

Actually I'm amazed you use Yappari. It could have a backdoor, I could be stealing all your private info and sending it to me. Why are you trusting me but why can't you trust Whatsapp Inc?

PartyboyXP 2012-07-23 21:39

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by malkavian (Post 1241880)
you are violating at least one of them.

I think you have the wrong phone, wrong OS and you are in the wrong community. Go and buy a Android phone and get out of here...

tonypower88 2012-07-23 21:55

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.17
 
I have just upgraded to v0.0.17
I noticed that while synchorization if I click "create chat" it closes I think this happens because of high memory consumption plus I have opessh-server which takes huge portion of RAM.

I hope in addition to memory optimization of sync in future releases that you allow sync to be completely disabled.

I have a question. What happens if a contact with same name is saved but with like 2 or 3 numbers fields, which number will receive messages?

NightShift79 2012-07-23 22:36

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.17
 
I don't receive messages since v 0.16. any hint?

malkavian 2012-07-23 22:46

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.16
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpius (Post 1241883)
If you ever work in a corporation you should know there's not time to do that stupid stuff.
...
Corporations just exist because of REVENUE. A bunch of random phone numbers don't create any REVENUE.

Please explain me how Whatsapp Inc. get revenue. None of the android users I know payed yet anything (and they use it since more than a year).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpius (Post 1241883)
NOBODY wants to buy a bunch or random phone numbers even though you think they will. IT IS NOT THE SAME that a bunch of random email addresses (why? "block" is the key word).

In whatsapp is possible to falsify your mobile number. And anybody could add you to his/her phonebook and write you through whatsapp, because you haven't to accept him/her as contact (as other IMs require).


Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpius (Post 1241883)
If they come here today and say "We'll be making a Whatsapp for the N900", I would immediately stop developing Yappari in the spot.

It will be sad for me. I will have to use the last version of any client that do its best for my privacy or not using whatsapp.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpius (Post 1241883)
Actually I'm amazed you use Yappari. It could have a backdoor, I could be stealing all your private info and sending it to me. Why are you trusting me but why can't you trust Whatsapp Inc?

Because there is Wireshark for N900 and you want to stay in this community ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by PartyboyXP (Post 1241893)
I think you have the wrong phone, wrong OS and you are in the wrong community. Go and buy a Android phone and get out of here...

No I'm sure that I have the greatest phone and mobile OS I could have now. Hope Jolla get us a more modern great phone :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonypower88 (Post 1241900)
What happens if a contact with same name is saved but with like 2 or 3 numbers fields, which number will receive messages?

Now, with contact sync the one registered. Whitout it, you will see the contact two or three times and you won't be able to difference wich is every one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NightShift79 (Post 1241914)
I don't receive messages since v 0.16. any hint?

Upload your Yappari log ( /home/user/.config/scorpius/yappari.log ) to uppit or somewhere and send the link in a private message to Scorpius

Scorpius 2012-07-24 01:09

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.17
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tonypower88 (Post 1241900)
I have just upgraded to v0.0.17
I noticed that while synchorization if I click "create chat" it closes I think this happens because of high memory consumption plus I have opessh-server which takes huge portion of RAM.

I hope in addition to memory optimization of sync in future releases that you allow sync to be completely disabled.

I have a question. What happens if a contact with same name is saved but with like 2 or 3 numbers fields, which number will receive messages?

I also use OpenSSH-server and it never closes when I click Create Chat. I have around 100 contacts though. How many contacts do you have approx?

About the other question, like malkavian says, with Contacts Synchronization only the Whatsapp registered numbers will appear. If you have a contact with two mobiles and both are registered in Whatsapp, then there's no way to know which number will receive the messages so far.

Eventually I'll code something like if you keep your finger pressed above the contact a little menu will appear and will show you the phone number.

I said "eventually"....

Scorpius 2012-07-24 05:58

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.17
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by malkavian (Post 1241917)
Please explain me how Whatsapp Inc. get revenue. None of the android users I know payed yet anything (and they use it since more than a year).

Very weird you don't know this: Even if you haven't heard of somebody who has paid for Whatsapp service (you must be surrounded of linux/opensource people), it already has sold millions of dollars. MILLIONS. *MILLIONS* (read it again).

It was the top selling application in several countries with revenues even bigger than Angry Birds! YES: PEOPLE PAID FOR IT.

There are 2 billion of Whatsapp messages PER DAY, Whatsapp Inc never reveals the number of users, but it must be like half of what Facebook has... I don't know a single person that uses Facebook and don't use Whatsapp. I actually know a lot of people (from work actually) who uses Whatsapp and will never have a Facebook page...

Just use Google. Example: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/30fd99a2-0...#axzz21W46XTT1

Actually now Whatsapp Inc has a newer strategy that might end without charging anymore: Whatsapp Inc is talking directly with the cell phone companies all around the world to include the software preinstalled in cell phones. Cell phone companies see Whatsapp as a boost of the data consumption, and doing so will really increase the data consumption. Why almost everybody uses Windows? because it's preinstalled in every PC out there. That's the strategy.

People think Whatsapp hurt the SMS traffic but that's not the case, since the great majority of cell phone users have low end cell phones, and just a few percentage use smartphones.

In conclusion, they don't need to sell your number to anyone. They are already millionaires.

Acurus_ 2012-07-24 06:19

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.17
 
I think, this is the wrong place for discussions like this. Therefore I will come back to the topic, because I need some help: I changed my N900 and flashed an image with BackupMenu. When I am opening Yappari (actually Version), I cannnot connect and shall send my number for registration. After sending the number I have to wait some seconds. Then I get the information, that I have not received registration message. What to do?

And again: Many, many thanks for the development of Yappari. I will donate this work.

Scorpius 2012-07-24 07:08

Re: [Announce] Yappari - A WhatsApp client for the N900 ONLY - v0.0.17
 
Acurus_ like somebody said before, registration is broken in 0.0.17. You have to install 0.0.16, register, and then upgrade to 0.0.17.


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