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jalyst 2012-06-15 18:10

Re: Sad news; Nokia apparently killed Meltemi
 
I might be hanging out at the Tizen/B2G forums more regularly soon.....
Think I'll wait till there's actually devices before I start wasting my time though... ;)
I have some faint hope for RIM too, don't think it's fair to rule-them-out entirely just yet...
Still like iOS/Android, & to a lesser extent WP, but my 1st love is a full FOSS mobile stack (within reason ofc).
I want to see that dream FINALLY realised beyond serial experimental launches; ALA Nokia.

ibrakalifa 2012-06-15 18:20

Re: Sad news; Nokia apparently killed Meltemi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck Norris (Post 1222428)
Tizen is more than meltimi. Nokia never said anything about it,. Samsung have talked about tizen plus there are devdevices around. Big difference!

its ported to sgs2, :D

ombre 2012-06-15 20:14

Re: Sad news; Nokia apparently killed Meltemi
 
Well,
I see it in this way: someone has to take over, why not get organized around this community? I mean the momentum is here, everything is evolving, let's take over. I mean there are serious software people here and folks who have the right assets.

I am being serious.

mikecomputing 2012-06-15 20:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ibrakalifa (Post 1222436)

Tizen is plain ridicilous.

If Samsung takes that damn Tizen serious why the **** do they bother add Android support? Anbd where is the damn devices!?

Tizen will never success they to damn scared going that direction. Tizen is just a way to scare Google a bit but it will NEVER be mainstream. Not even released for geeks. Just a few crapdevices.

Its just a ****ing hype to make geeks hope for something that never will appear.

Will you people NEVER LEARN from what we already has seen this years!?

Maemo4, Maemo5, Meego, WebOS and so on?

STOP DREAM. we will NEVER see a fully opensource platform.

Dave999 2012-06-15 20:35

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You are a dramaqueen. :D

Ken-Young 2012-06-15 20:45

Re: Sad news; Nokia apparently killed Meltemi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1222473)
[...]
Will you people NEVER LEARN from what we already has seen this years!?

Maemo4, Maemo5, Meego, WebOS and so on?

STOP DREAM. we will NEVER see a fully opensource platform.

If that's true, it's largely our own fault. Instead of coalescing around a single project, we fragment. If the Mer, Maemo, Meego, WebOS, SHR, NITDROID, qtMoko and CSSU groups all pooled their efforts on a single distribution for, say, the gta04, we might get a phone that we really controlled ourselves. Instead, what will probably happen is 1) The people who bought N900s and N9s because they looked cool, but who are not FOSS devotees will quickly leave. 2) New apps will stop showing up. 3) A year from now, all the effort will be centered on things *only* geeks care about, like getting Ubuntu to run on these phones.

mrsellout 2012-06-15 21:16

Re: Sad news; Nokia apparently killed Meltemi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ombre (Post 1222472)
Well,
I see it in this way: someone has to take over, why not get organized around this community? I mean the momentum is here, everything is evolving, let's take over. I mean there are serious software people here and folks who have the right assets.

I am being serious.

If the Vivaldi tablet is successful, then maybe there's scope for something to grow from there into other form factors.

Rauha 2012-06-15 21:24

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Insanity continues; Sweden England 2-3. :mad:

Now even football fails me this week. At least I, unlike Nokia, have a Plan B. It's called Denmark. Danmark, Tuborg og søde piger i Jylland. My heart goes to Meltemi people who were locked out of their source code and internal servers yesterday before the annoucement and to the Tre kronor. I'm also drunk and depressed at the moment. So pretty much all normal and regular for a finn.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ombre (Post 1222472)
Well,
I see it in this way: someone has to take over, why not get organized around this community? I mean the momentum is here, everything is evolving, let's take over. I mean there are serious software people here and folks who have the right assets.

You don't happen to have about 8,7 billion euros of spare cash lying around? If yes, let's take over. I can be the guy who makes you coffee. You like milk and/or sugar? If no, then we can continue being a Yet Another Cool and Geeky Open Source Community.

More seriously, it would be nice if we could somehow get Nokia to release closed and unreleased code from Maemo, Meego and Meltemi projects. They won't be using it, nor will be the corporation that will buyout Nokia before or after the bankruptcy. All that code will just rot away. Now is the time to get Nokia to release it before it's too late. Its going to be too late quite soon.

Maybe we could start stalking and begging Elop in front of his apartment in Katajanokka. Those two bodyguards currently tailing him due to lay offs might be a problem. Lets just say that we come in peace and take us to your leader.

MartinK 2012-06-15 21:25

Re: Sad news; Nokia apparently killed Meltemi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken-Young (Post 1222478)
If that's true, it's largely our own fault. Instead of coalescing around a single project, we fragment. If the Mer, Maemo, Meego, WebOS, SHR, NITDROID, qtMoko and CSSU groups all pooled their efforts on a single distribution for, say, the gta04, we might get a phone that we really controlled ourselves.

I have actually met one of the GTA04 developers on our conference. He had a GTA04 running Qt Moko or Debian with him. Looked quite nice & fast (finally!). There price (for +- improved N900 class hardware) is rather prohibitive though.

On the other hand, it has a magnetic compass, USB host out of the box, FM transmitter, 512MB RAM and built-in navigation board (pressure sensor, magnetometer, gyroscope, ...). Oh and tons of GPIO/SPI ports and a removable battery. :) And complete schematics + open drivers to about everything (there is a GPU blob).

Ken-Young 2012-06-15 21:42

Re: Sad news; Nokia apparently killed Meltemi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinK (Post 1222487)
I have actually met
[...]
On the other hand, it has a magnetic compass, USB host out of the box, FM transmitter, 512MB RAM and built-in navigation board (pressure sensor, magnetometer, gyroscope, ...). Oh and tons of GPIO/SPI ports and a removable battery. :) And complete schematics + open drivers to about everything (there is a GPU blob).

Yup, in many ways it is the Geek Dream phone. When they started talking about building their own successor to the Freerunner, I poo-poo'd the idea. I didn't think of the possibility of leveraging the Beagle Board. It was a very clever thing to do. Everyone who can afford to should buy one.


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