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Re: It's official: maemo.org to be orphaned

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Originally Posted by geneven (Post 1224999)

Pro active Nokia fairies? Did someone actually say that? Did Reggie give abill-uk a permanent get out of jail free card, or what? That is deeply offensive rhetoric.

same remark as to Dave999 & lma...
the thread is scattered with thanks from Reggie;
he even editted a post on 17th...

go check your facts before posting, pls.

Re: It's official: maemo.org to be orphaned

misterc: Please point out a fact that my post got wrong. Thanks!

This is at least the second time lately you accused someone of needing to check their facts when no particular facts were at issue.Is this, like, your magic debate trick?

Re: It's official: maemo.org to be orphaned

Where's that [CITATION NEEDED] tag when you need it eh?

Re: It's official: maemo.org to be orphaned

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Originally Posted by misiak (Post 1223581)

If you're speaking about processes on devices itself, we could use resolv.conf or some other hack to redirect maemo.org to new server, so that's not a problem. But anyway, good to know that such issue may occur :)

Sorry, no I meant "processes" in the sense of development activities going on within the Nokia organisation itself. Not public-facing things like bugs.maemo.org, but server farms for compiling or collaborating on code, hidden to the public but using the maemo.org namespace. Presumably these development activities no longer exist so this is no longer a barrier.

Re: It's official: maemo.org to be orphaned

Alright, everybody cool down.

It's been known that Nokia's going to pull the plug sooner or later, but not this soon (is it confirmed?)

Anyways, instead of arguing, we should be figuring out how to get off the Nokia money boat, and get ourselves a new one (and pay for that, I can't imagine a site such as maemo.org being anywhere near cheap)

Re: It's official: maemo.org to be orphaned

I don't think the timing is confirmed at all. It's like death; we're dying but don't know when. The way I read the statements, they add up to: we should be able to give you six months notice, but I didn't see anyone saying "and those six months start now". However the sooner we get ready for the Last Days, the better.

Re: It's official: maemo.org to be orphaned

Well guys, been following events over the last couple days.

Another 10,000 jobs to go at Nokia, Nokia Sweden to be shut down and Elop being escorted home by security.
This is like the death of Commodore all over again. Nokia is being wound down to just a name, nothing more.
Hopefully we'll find another home (if the brown sticky stuff does hit the high speed whirly thing) and carry on as Maemo.org.
In the meantime my N900 continues to function and amaze onlookers with it's abilities, (all made possible by this community). Long live Maemo.

Re: It's official: maemo.org to be orphaned

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Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1224997)

abill,

no offense, but you don't seem to understand what FOSS is, do you?
the Linuxes you (can?) get running on your PC are anything but opensource.
the primary reason why a (fully) open source based Linux / GNU runs on a PC in a remotely acceptable state for Jane or Joe Doe is because Intel makes most if not all of their hardware drivers (network adapters, basic aka build-in graphic adapters, north- and southbridges aso.) available under quasi open-source terms.
so does AMD, for that matter
if it wasn't for that, most Linux installs would end up with a dashing _ in the top left corner of a black screen, without network connection and with very limited access to storage :eek:

back to topic (NOKIA's "open source" effort...)
NOKIA makes mobile devices, from dumb phones to... well, the only pocket computer running a quasi full fledged Linux / GNU.
they don't make all the innards of the devices, they license them from 3rd parties HW companies.
until that m0##0n of Flop arrived and starting farting around, they were fully in control of their primary platform, Symbian^3.
on Symbian, it didn't really matter what the licenses for HW related parts were, as hardly any access is given to it
for Maemo (/MeeGo), well, we are struggling with the fact that NOKIA can not for most parts release the code of the drivers because they simply don't own them.
for a limited number of them (osso-Phone to name but one) not divulging the code is competitive edge.
like the struggle of Mer, Nemo, Nitdroid and possibly others shows, it isn't that easy to get this to work, thus it is also a competitive choice.
NOKIA is a quoted company after all, they still should make a profit...

OK Mr Misterc i am going to put you straight on a few things here.

I was brought up on FOSS and i mean the TRUE meaning of free open source way back in the days of DOS when all there were on the internet were bulletin boards that us engineers would post regular updates of PROPER free source that ANYONE could work with so i hope this explains to you that i do in fact know what i am talking about and that means 100% open nothing hidden or protected.

The N900 was supposed to be a developers flagship same as the N950 is but when you look at this in the engineering term it stinks, WHY? because i do not know of any piece of hardware that is manufactured for development purposes that has closed components and 3rd party drivers.... this is a joke right?.

Nokia are nothing short of criminals because they have hoodwinked just about everyone and this community too i might add most of all.

This community was "invented" to further progress Maemo and that is an impossible situation because Maemo belongs to only one handset and that is the N900, bloody hell it is almost FULL of closed components that are covered legally so as to protect the drivers and that sucks because no way on this planet can Maemo be applied to a device with closed components if it is to be further developed by a community such as this one.

Every update is encrypted so as to protect the closed bits so what the hell is that supposed to mean for engineers who want to further the OS?.

Nokia fairies are the managers the staff the ALL the followers of Nokia because they all live in a dream world and do not see this for what it really is.... i did way back which is why i have repeatedly asked for the source in full to be released to the engineers both hardware and software who are part of this community that want to take over where Nokia left it and THAT is the key to all of this that has never ever happened.

I hate long posts so i will carry on in a new one ok.

Re: It's official: maemo.org to be orphaned

I'm closing this thread so we can give time to qgil, kate, and/or the council get more information and release an official statement.

In other words, let's move on.