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geneven 2012-06-23 03:05
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Actually, I have a lot of respect for both of them. I voted for one, but not the other, and I won't say why.I had a lot of hope for this council, but not much now.

GeXX 2012-06-23 03:07
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Soo.. You are all fighting over a dead platform, made by a company who's ceo is good at dodging flying chairs? You all should rename this forum wp8 and call the council Steve Balmer Council with all the *****ing and whining going on.

Arie 2012-06-23 03:07
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Originally Posted by geneven (Post 1226055)
Actually, I have a lot of respect for both of them. I voted for one, but not the other, and I won't say why.I had a lot of hope for this council, but not much now.
Let me take a guess, you didn't vote for Estel.... You're not the only one.

sifo 2012-06-23 03:08
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Originally Posted by Arie (Post 1226054)
More transparency, and the Councillors shouldn't be so agressive, they aren't dealing with former taliban fighters...

We are people and when we question we aren't looking to harm, we want clarity.

This situation had none of it.
yes you got a good point with that but opps we are late ! for real why not saying anything when the councilers nominated themselves ? well for me i get shocked when i read that in the mailing list "how could they be nominated and they are the judges " then i had a headache and went to sleep :D

Arie 2012-06-23 03:09
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Originally Posted by sifo (Post 1226058)
yes you got a good point with that but opps we are late ! for real why not saying anything when the councilers nominated themselves ? well for me i get shocked when i read that in the mailing list "how could they be nominated and they are the judges " then i had a headache and went to sleep :D
They're treating me like a former taliban fighter, I couldn't care less what they say anymore.

thedead1440 2012-06-23 03:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by geneven (Post 1226055)
Actually, I have a lot of respect for both of them. I voted for one, but not the other, and I won't say why.I had a lot of hope for this council, but not much now.
that's the sad part...why does the council lose respect of the community? due to their flawed procedure and subsequent defences...Arie raised some valid points...even in the discussion thread for CA some ppl raised the issue of mailing lists not being the place to discuss the awards but they were more or less shut up with how TMO was a place with 50+ pages and whiners...

If this issue was very publicly raised i don't think the Council would have got the community's acceptance in applying for themselves too...anyway thats my 2pence and not an attack...

thedead1440 2012-06-23 03:19
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i'd like to pose a question to everyone...while we all know what has happened was not to everyone's liking...what are the solutions that could rectify the matter? maybe if we present a compelling case to the council on the basis of an agitated community, they might be cool-headed and think it thro'

sifo 2012-06-23 03:24
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im so sad i didnt won i nominated my self man i made the test-script :'(
:p after i checked some applies of the winners i got over heated for some :D

itsnotabigtruck 2012-06-23 03:24
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To get back to the point...

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Originally Posted by itsnotabigtruck (Post 1225858)
This situation is the essence of a conflict of interest, and the only acceptable solution at this point is for the awards to the councilors, at the very minimum, to be cancelled. Anything else is to render the whole matter a farce. I don't understand how anyone on this forum could find it reasonable to allow the judges of a competition, one intended to acknowledge valuable contributions to Maemo (including Harmattan), to loot it for their own personal gain.
No one from the council has attempted to defend such an action - only to present it as a fait accompli that can't be changed. That isn't the case, and no one should stand for it.

This isn't about netting myself a phone - now that I'm involved in the dispute, claiming I should have received one would be to render myself a hypocrite. What it is about is correcting the situation and making it apparent that this "council" puts itself ahead of the community it claims to represent.

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Originally Posted by thedead1440 (Post 1226061)
i'd like to pose a question to everyone...while we all know what has happened was not to everyone's liking...what are the solutions that could rectify the matter? maybe if we present a compelling case to the council on the basis of an agitated community, they might be cool-headed and think it thro'
Cancel the awards to the councilors and:
  • Call a popular vote to select the recipients, or
  • Reapportion them to the coding competition, or
  • Award them to Harmattan contributors, who were categorically ignored by the judges, or
  • Anything besides this

sifo 2012-06-23 03:42
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@itsnotabigtruck

are you gonna take the award back if you were insted of the coucilors you are talking about ? i guess not and nobody gonna do such a thing unless he knows the he will be dead in the next day :D


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