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celebrant 2012-06-11 17:42
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
There are never enough bugfixes. And the N9 could use a whole lot of them.

vilva 2012-06-11 17:50
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
Oh come on, Nokia is about to deliver their last PR1.3 ever
and all they want to see is an anticipation thread of N900
PR 1.2 class at least. At current pace we'll reach that in
May 2015, but too bad our friends might not be there
to deliver anymore:D

isfr21 2012-06-11 17:52
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rainisto (Post 1220592)
even if there would be PR1.3, PR1.4, PR1.5, PR1.6 etc, you would never get any timetables for them, as nokia never gives any official statements on timetables on any PR releases which may or may not come.

So its useless to speculate on timetables. It comes if and when it comes.
They have been for the new Lumias. They were even like a couple of days early for a bug fix-I forgot what the big fix was for.

don.edri 2012-06-11 18:24
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
@besttt and godofwar424
To clarify - I did not get a return email but a phone call, which made ms think that this could be some valuable info. The link I've posted in my original thread is to show the form through which I contacted Nokia. On the whole I guess I got excited about nothing important.

mikecomputing 2012-06-11 18:24
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
All those crying about PR1.3 why not you all go get an Iphone and ask SIRI if that knows when PR1.3 for Harmattan gets released?

And when you get no answer you can get upset on SIRI instead.

Muzimak 2012-06-11 19:27
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by besttt (Post 1220595)
yes a good app for radio
What's wrong with the current one? I personally think we have the 2 Best FM Radios in the market. I bought the one with old school look, awesome App, one of my favourite and mostly used. I just think some of us are just being naggy and asking stupid things. PR1.3 would be nice but that doesn't mean with PR1.2 is less nice, it's still brilliant.

And please don't say it's because U want it free, it's already cheap, in my country that price is equivalent to 1 beer (Heineken). Why wait for FW update just to get a free radio? If U afford this phone surely U can afford that app.

HELLASISGREECE 2012-06-11 20:24
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
I allready have a radio app on my N9.

I would love to see a Nokia one though.. Something beautiful & simple at the same time.

like the clock app, or the calculator app. something more...Meego-ish

herpderp 2012-06-11 20:28
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by late88 (Post 1220596)
What else they could add to the phone? What the phone is lacking? Have you something in mind? Ok, maybe video calling but I don't use it anyway.
Hold on! Everyone, notify all Nokia employees that late88 is satisfied with the N9, so no new features are needed ever. They can stop working on any feature additions.

I bet they'll be relieved by the news.

Garrett_PL 2012-06-11 22:57
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Muzimak (Post 1220656)
... in my country that price is equivalent to 1 beer (Heineken). Why wait for FW update just to get a free radio? If U afford this phone surely U can afford that...
C'mon man - that's not the idea - sure, gooing that road everyone of us should be charge for each thread / post here.
And every app, should cost at least five'r - cause it takes lots of work.

geneven 2012-06-11 23:15
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
I hope that someday I have an ebook reader that allows one to copy and paste words.This makes it easier to look up words on the net or in a dictionary. The special version of Fbreader that comes on the N9 doesn't support that, neither does Ionic -- these are the epub readers. Almost all readers I have ever seen do support some kind of easy dictionary word lookup in readers, but not the N9.

rainisto 2012-06-12 13:03
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by herpderp (Post 1220677)
Hold on! Everyone, notify all Nokia employees that late88 is satisfied with the N9, so no new features are needed ever. They can stop working on any feature additions.

I bet they'll be relieved by the news.
Heh, what news, didn't you know that feature freeze was on PR1.1, and all the following PR releases are only bugfixes. So they stopped working on new features already over 6 months ago... Maybe you missed the news that MeeGo is dead? *sarcasm :rolleyes:*
... Or maybe you will go nuts if there is ever PR release coming, and it would be full of new features that you have always dreamed in your wildest dreams... Maybe Siri knows the answer.

PS. my wishlist:
- All capa develsh
- All closed sources released for CSSU

late88 2012-06-12 15:20
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by herpderp (Post 1220677)
Hold on! Everyone, notify all Nokia employees that late88 is satisfied with the N9, so no new features are needed ever. They can stop working on any feature additions.

I bet they'll be relieved by the news.
Of course the phone is lacking several things. But I only spoke about my own opinion. There is already everything _I need_. Why have features that is never used?

kai_en 2012-06-13 02:54
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
The thing they really need to fix is Accuweather. It was fantastic up till PR1.1 and please don't say MeeCast, I am well aware of MeeCast but Accuweather provides better weather forecast at my area.

sony123 2012-06-13 04:47
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
I'd rather Nokia pour all resource to get Meltemi out of the door first, and worry about PR1.3 later.
That's another slipped project and it has much bigger impact on NOK.

lifeintheblitz 2012-06-13 12:05
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by late88 (Post 1220596)
What else they could add to the phone? What the phone is lacking? Have you something in mind? Ok, maybe video calling but I don't use it anyway. And now we have inception, we can do almost anything to the phone by ourselves.
Quote:
Originally Posted by late88 (Post 1220963)
Of course the phone is lacking several things. But I only spoke about my own opinion. There is already everything _I need_. Why have features that is never used?
The answer is simple, really. You're not the only one who uses the phone. The hell people care with how you use your phone. If you're happy with it, don't ever dare update. An absolute majority of N9 users want to see their phone evolve and get new features, whether they're going to use it or not. So stop asking people "What is the phone lacking" or "What features do you need anyway?", because you're obviously, albeit indirectly, implying that other people shouldn't have any reason to be excited. Here's the proof:

Quote:
Originally Posted by late88 (Post 1220578)
I don't know about excitement, but all i want from pr1.3 is every critical bug fixed. Nothing else.
And of course, you're going to deny this.

*hands you your butt on a platter*

Dared 2012-06-13 12:10
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lifeintheblitz (Post 1221302)
The answer is simple, really. You're not the only one who uses the phone. The hell people care with how you use your phone. If you're happy with it, don't ever dare update. An absolute majority of N9 users want to see their phone evolve and get new features, whether they're going to use it or not. So stop asking people "What is the phone lacking" or "What features do you need anyway?", because you're obviously, albeit indirectly, implying that other people shouldn't have any reason to be excited. Here's the proof:



And of course, you're going to deny this.

*hands you your butt on a platter*

Clam down dude - he was just making a point valid to him - no need to get all agro

Mandibela 2012-06-13 12:21
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
http://nokiainnovation.com/2012/06/l...3-0-camera-ui/ <- check the Nokia Drive app screenshot, oh how I wish we'd get traffic info too in PR1.3! (As the app is very similar between N9 and Lumia 800/900)

ss29er 2012-06-13 12:42
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mandibela (Post 1221310)
http://nokiainnovation.com/2012/06/l...3-0-camera-ui/ <- check the Nokia Drive app screenshot, oh how I wish we'd get traffic info too in PR1.3! (As the app is very similar between N9 and Lumia 800/900)
Traffic and reroutes would be fantastic!!!

late88 2012-06-13 14:14
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lifeintheblitz (Post 1221302)
The answer is simple, really. You're not the only one who uses the phone. The hell people care with how you use your phone. If you're happy with it, don't ever dare update. An absolute majority of N9 users want to see their phone evolve and get new features, whether they're going to use it or not. So stop asking people "What is the phone lacking" or "What features do you need anyway?", because you're obviously, albeit indirectly, implying that other people shouldn't have any reason to be excited. Here's the proof:



And of course, you're going to deny this.

*hands you your butt on a platter*
There's no reason arguing. And you can't argue about opinions. You clearly completely missed my point here. And the thing about excitement and others posts, I only spoke what i'm feeling personally.

SolarisSixth 2012-06-14 03:41
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
Ya know, I was thinking. While it would be very nice, I'm pretty sure that we won't get app compatibility with Android.

(well, I sure as **** hope I'm wrong)

Even assuming that Google would be totally Ok, with it, which is unlikely, or maybe not, I don't know, Google is weird, they might not care, or even support it.

Ya never know, maybe by extending the hand of android apps now, they could easily get the owners of the N9 to move on to a Nexus Branded set. (Personally, had the N9 not dropped when it did, I would be toting a Galaxy Nexus. Some days I kinda still wish I had)

So, not only would it most likely get the big G kinda miffed, but it would also be a big FU to Microsoft. And even though both Microsoft and Nokia seemingly no longer give a damn about the N9, you can bet it would be a real threat, and letting consumers side with Droid, can't end well.

So how about if it's the opposite? How about if they are offering compatibility with Microsoft Marketplace apps?

I mean, sure, it would add like... 5 apps? To the library of the N9, but for the most part, more is better.

Now, I'm not a developer, I can't even imagine the amount of work that would have to go into making these things work together, not to mention the pieces of Microsoft code that they are keeping closed-source. But if Nokia did get the right to make some modifications, they have to have SOME access to those hidden parts, and it may just work.

Hell, Microsoft may even go for it, afterall, maybe we'll all get hooked on Microsoft Apps, and our next phone will be a Lumia. (I am also a tad jealous of the L900, that big screen... just wanna gut my N9 and transplant it into that body.)

Anyway, this is all just speculation of course, most likely, even assuming Pr1.3 comes out, we might get a few bug fixes, and a couple small tweaks, and even potentially a feature or two that might have been planned for later, but got pushed out now with the supposedly final update.

And that's already having pretty high expectations.

qorax 2012-06-14 05:56
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SolarisSixth (Post 1221581)
...(I am also a tad jealous of the L900, that big screen... just wanna gut my N9 and transplant it into that body.)...
Exactly.
I too had the same feelings when I played with a Lumia-900... how badly I wanted my N9 to be in that shell!

stratax 2012-06-14 06:13
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qorax (Post 1221593)
Exactly.
I too had the same feelings when I played with a Lumia-900... how badly I wanted my N9 to be in that shell!
i hate the bezel and how nokia took away the curved glass.. id take the lumia 800 over the 900 just because of that. on my amaze it had the bezel and so much dirt and crap got stuck in between the bezel and glass.. i think its a bad design

the n9's curved screen is perfect imo :) but thats all personal preference i guess

shinogami 2012-06-14 11:22
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
Given today's announcements, I don't think we can be certain anymore that PR 1.3 will ever be available. In fact, I think it's far more likely that it will not come :(

clovis86 2012-06-14 11:54
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
why that ?

The announce has no impact on R & D team in Finland ...

shinogami 2012-06-14 14:03
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by clovis86 (Post 1221734)
why that ?

The announce has no impact on R & D team in Finland ...
They slashed 3,700 jobs in Finland, including, AFAIK, the people involved with Meltemi, QT, and MeeGo. I might be wrong, but given the apparent need to save money, as well no future for MeeGo policy, what makes you think that PR 1.3 will ever see the light of day. From e.g. Elop's standpoint it's just a waste of money to dedicate any further resources to MeeGo development. I hope I'm wrong though..

geneven 2012-06-14 14:10
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
Considering that Nokia is taking a burning elevator into hell, its ability to hold to any particular commitments is in question.

HELLASISGREECE 2012-06-14 14:11
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
I have my N900 & N9

Nokia can go to Hell.

thedead1440 2012-06-14 14:11
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
pr1.3 will come...it was committed quite sometime ago...only polishing is in the works...however, its very sad to see the last remaining Linux strand in Nokia (Meltemi) being killed too...a very sad day in Nokia's history...

Now onwards it'll only be the Lumia show that will dominate new products...kinda pathetic till we know if Apollo really revamps WP to make it close all those loose ends at the basic features it lacks...

amaziN9 2012-06-14 14:27
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
samsung plaese buy maemo from nokia, dont buy nokia, they deserve to crash and burn, :(

elemental 2012-06-14 14:33
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by amaziN9 (Post 1221823)
samsung plaese buy maemo from nokia, dont buy nokia, they deserve to crash and burn, :(
I want only one Qt-based phone per year (officially supported) - do I expect too much Nokia?? Maybe Samsung or other company would do it better.

Jeffrey04 2012-06-14 19:25
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
I hope PR1.3 is out by august because the guy who was in charge of PR1.2 is gonna leave in august

https://twitter.com/melsop74/status/213304540102004736

a very sad sad day for Nokia I suppose :(

stratax 2012-06-14 23:53
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
well bad news is bad news. not much we can do but wait. lol

if wp8 is much better than wp7 then i might be happy to buy another Nokia.. other than that i have my eyes on bb10

edit: http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/14/n...tooth-headset/

looks like nokia is still holding on to the n9 :p

jleholeho 2012-06-15 00:04
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
1 Attachment(s)
N9 still proudly stands amongst the Nokia high-ends at Nokia.sk website:)

Fuzzillogic 2012-06-15 00:15
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by stratax (Post 1222090)
well bad news is bad news. not much we can do but wait. lol

if wp8 is much better than wp7 then i might be happy to buy another Nokia.. other than that i have my eyes on bb10
WP8 won't have multitasking just like WP7. At best you'll get task switching. Microsoft is going back to the days of 1986. And I wouldn't count on openess either. If you are a mobile poweruser, WP simply isn't for you.

It is terrible news today. I was kinda hoping that Elop was keeping Meltimi/Harmattan around to keep pressure on Microsoft, and showing Redmond that Nokia has a viable "plan B" ready. But it seems that Stephen Elop and Chris Weber (also an ex-microsofty, now in charge of global sales at Nokia.) are simply too weak to innovate.

I think the world is better off without WP. It has nothing positive to contribute next to the equally closed iOS. Personally I would regret if the downfall of WP also brings down Nokia, but if that is what it takes, then so be it. Let's just hope they will release PR1.3 before that.

How do you know when you've failed as company? When your own once enthusiastic, involved and committed customers turn their back to you. Good work Nokia.

http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/...-for-fail1.jpg

stratax 2012-06-15 00:41
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzzillogic (Post 1222096)
WP8 won't have multitasking just like WP7. At best you'll get task switching. Microsoft is going back to the days of 1986. And I wouldn't count on openess either. If you are a mobile poweruser, WP simply isn't for you.

It is terrible news today. I was kinda hoping that Elop was keeping Meltimi/Harmattan around to keep pressure on Microsoft, and showing Redmond that Nokia has a viable "plan B" ready. But it seems that Stephen Elop and Chris Weber (also an ex-microsofty, now in charge of global sales at Nokia.) are simply too weak to innovate.

I think the world is better off without WP. It has nothing positive to contribute next to the equally closed iOS. Personally I would regret if the downfall of WP also brings down Nokia, but if that is what it takes, then so be it. Let's just hope they will release PR1.3 before that.

How do you know when you've failed as company? When your own once enthusiastic, involved and committed customers turn their back to you. Good work Nokia.

http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/...-for-fail1.jpg
i guess its all up to personal preference. nobody, and i mean nobody (beside microsoft itself) know how WP8 is going to be. im sure microsoft isnt dumb (like apple) and continue to do what their consumers hate.. (like how IOS has looked the same for 6 years). they should have learned SOMETHING from these past few years and how everybody hates on wp7.

personally, i liked wp7.. for about 3 weeks lol, then i got bored and traded for a android cause.. its a boring OS. im just hopeing WP8 will bring new stuff to the table. for microsoft fans and nokia fans both. i dont think Nokia would have jumped if WP8 was the same as wp7 considering wp7 has less marketshare than symbian. that would be just plain dumb.

i dont hate any mobile OS tbh, i just like more than others and what not. if we didnt have IOS and WP7 then android or symbian wouldnt stand how it does today.. everybody needs competitors so the other company can improve :) ive never used ios as a personal device and i never plan to, thats for sure


edit: http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/14/n...craps-meltemi/

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marxian 2012-06-15 00:50
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
I think the update is coming. I received this email from technical support:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nokia Technical Support
----- Original message -----
> Hi Stuart,
>
> I am with the Nokia Store Technical Support team and it has come to my
> attention that CuteTube does not play streamed videos with the latest
> firmware that will be coming out for the N9 shortly. Unfortunately it
> crashes before playing a streamed video.
>
> Can you please take a look at the crash log and either send myself in an
> attached email an updated version of the app so I can test it with the
> new firmware or possibly send your project including source code so I
> can debug your application with the new firmware and find the crash bug.
>
> If your application is not updated before the launch of the new firmware
> there is a possibility that your application may receive negative
> reviews due to crashes that users of your app will face on the new
> firmware.
>
> Please let me as soon as possible how you would like to go about solving
> this issue.
>
> Sincerely,
> Paul
> Nokia Store Technical Support Engineer
It looks like another regression in the performance of the QML Video element. :/

As it happens, I am already close to finishing the new version, which will now rely on the stock video player for all playback duties.

jleholeho 2012-06-15 00:57
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
woow...nevertheless, it`s quite a confirmation of PR1.3...
thx

Jedibeeftrix 2012-06-15 15:04
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by elemental (Post 1221828)
I want only one Qt-based phone per year (officially supported) - do I expect too much Nokia?? Maybe Samsung or other company would do it better.
BBOS10 with Qt support and a swipe-like UI.

it is where i am headed next!

stratax 2012-06-15 16:07
Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jedibeeftrix (Post 1222324)
BBOS10 with Qt support and a swipe-like UI.

it is where i am headed next!
+1 im sure a lot of symbian users will jump ship as well :)

clovis86 2012-06-15 17:51
Re: haven't received pr1.3 update... yet!!
 
It's gonna be .... wait for it .....


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