Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

after some reading zoom in video while recording is coming in pr 1.3

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

You can have it now, no problem with PR 1.2:D

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

You know this how exactly?

Yeah but some users report a bit of jerkyness, so maybe that's improved.
I REALLY hope video playback performance is improved, that's a BIGGY IMO.
And beyond that all the nastiest bugs need to have been squashed.

I assume you're joking but just in case....
MS/Nokia have already explicitly said that won't be possible.*
The best current Lumia phones can expect is WP7.8.
The depth of features it offers aren't clear yet, but many of them will be quite superficial.
As WP7.8 won't exploit much of the lower-level changes that WP8 brings.

*Enthusiast community MAY work out a way...
But given the slow progress with interup-lock I have my doubts.

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Ohh yes I was joking ;) I just wanted to show, how wrong such unconfirmed statements can be.

The sales person told me that before Microsoft's WP8 announcement (I didn't mention that). Among others I never expected that WP8 would ever run on Lumia800/900.

But I questioned that guy out why he wants to sell me a Lumia phone (after he came to me saying that my N9 would not be that "fast&smooth" - yes we know that's the typical Windows phrase). But after he was (very fast) out of arguments he came up with the idea that with the next Lumia update I could use any Windows 8 PC application on that phone ;)

Sorry very off-topic all that.

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

A few days ago I received a further email from Nokia Store Technical Support regarding PR 1.3, so it would appear that it's still arriving.

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

As far as I can see that's quite a confirmation there!!!

Thank you marxian for sharing your email :D

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Confirmation that they are still working on it, but not confirmation that it will be released ever.

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

This looks good from where I'm sitting. Don't care if this arrives late summer at this point; I'd rather it came as a working PR because if it is sent out broken and buggy, there'll be no one at Nokia Towers to fix it. The Maemo work labs will have already been converted into Elop's poker and hockey rooms.

As always on this forum, patience is required!

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

I wonder after the Meego-Harmattan project is fully closed, will they be able to release the development tools and source code to us. I wish they do so we could continue making our own updates!

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

I think there's more chance of Elop being voted in as the new president of Finland to be honest mate.

The Maemo harddrives are toast, and Elop struck the match.

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

That's not it, certain parts of Maemo and Harmattan are closed source, so Nokia has no right to release those parts. If you look through certain threads it's mentioned and discussed extensively.

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Well, it's good that they're doing this QA for popular apps for PR1.3, but it seems they're not giving N950 owners early access as before? I think someone should email Mr. Elop and advise him of this amazing money-saving opportunity! Do the work to push out a prerelease to N950 and then you don't have to redo all the QA as all the devs will do it for you! You might even be able to afford one Meltemi developer with the money you save!

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Don't fool yourself Nokia shot itself in the face, saving money is not in their goal, wasting resources to make WP the only platform is...

This behavior will also be the end of Nokia.

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

What use they got for it? their Windows exclusive now, Meego, Meltemi and Symbian are not needed for them anymore

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Other companies have made those parts, Nokia only licensed them for use.

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Elop: "Come in!"
The one remaining Nokia Linux dev: "Just to ask, how much will it cost us to get clearance and open source all the Maemo line?"
Elop: "An absolute boatload of cash, legal will be going over it for at least six months. How long will it take you to strip out all the 3rd party code we licensed, references to products we haven't released yet, make sure it still works, write compiling howtos, and set up a hosting website?"
Dev: "Oh, ages."
Elop: "And what would be the benefit from this?"
Dev: "A minor PR boost - a handful of FOSS people are asking for it on forums"
Elop: "OK, well, will those people come back to Nokia, buy phones and generate word of mouth?"
Dev: "Lumias?"
Elop: "Yeah"
Dev: "Not a chance in hell"
Elop: *pulls trapdoor lever, dev plunges into fiery pit* ... "NEXT!"

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

As already stated MILLION times!

NO because of licens issues, third partys(TI is one big issue in case of GFX,Wifi driver) etc..

And the swipeUI is probadly used on S40 devices.

If you want a open device start contribute to nemomobile and QT, and stop dream about Nokia open up harmattan swipeUI and apps
because: IT WILL NOT HAPPEN

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Why the hell do you think he would care? He want every damn apps to fail on N9 to make sure every customer gets even more pissed.

Atleast what that man has done so far. Why would he change now?

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Yeah, it's over. They went back to an alpha stage of testing instead.

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Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

I think it would be more like:

Elop: "Come in!"
Dev: "Just to ask, how much will it cost..."
Elop: "Wait, who are you again?"
Dev: "Oh, I'm the Maemo guy. I..."
Elop pulls trapdoor lever, dev plunges into fiery pit.
Elop: "I knew I had missed one!"
He flings around stands up and kneels down to a holographic projection of Ballmer.
Elop: "Lord Ballmer, my task is complete."
Ballmer: "Good, good, my young apprentice. The cancer has been exterminated. Now, witness the power of this fully armed and operational private equity firm!"

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Please don't be true :(

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

I think its true that's why qgill has been trying to indicate in code that he might not be around for long...:(

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

I hope some of them get together and starts a new "Trolltech". The global demand for Qt is huge.

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Finnish Digia?

http://www.digia.com/en/Qt/

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/07/n...ness-to-digia/

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

last pr1.3 beta internal release

mp-harmattan-001-pr_40.2012.21-3_all.deb
mp-harmattan-rm680-pr_40.2012.16-1_all.deb

nokia... please, release it !!

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Where did you get that info from?

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

doesnt blackberrys new OS use qt?

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Ughh when is PR 1.3 coming out already, this is pissin me the F*** off! I'm waiting forever for this thing to come so I can install NitDroid with it without going through annoying complications when Pr 1.3 is actually out.

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

I personally hope it takes much longer, so long as there's still a small team actively working on it.
The team has become so small now, that they need way more time to get more fixed or implemented.*
If it gets to October and we're still only hearing hints that it's coming, THEN I'll start to get irritated.
But based on the snippets we've been getting in this thread, I think were getting it (if at all) in 1-4wk.

*They could follow the "release early & release often" mantra...
But the chances of them being allowed to release major updates after 1.3 is hugely reduced IMO.

If you read only Engadget or similar I wouldn't blame you for having that perspective...
Yes they're in trouble, but the extent to which they are has OFTEN been exaggerated/simplified in the past yr, & that's had quite an impact.
Not saying that alone is why they're doing poorly, or even the main reason, but it certainly is a factor.

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Dont give that high hopes on Blackberry10. That company is more crisis than MicroNokia... :(

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

I dont think there is any Nokia employers working with Harmattan after the summer. Not even sure there will be outsourced people working on Harmattan. Digia focus is probadly is Qt after Nokia fired the QT team inside Nokia as rumored....

Btw. Just take a look at the activity of the open GIT modules at gitorius. nothing new since mars in case of meegotouch* and qt-components (in case of harmattan stuff)

Its definitivly OVER. PR1.3 the last...

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Well we don't know for sure yet, there could still be some kind of outsourcing to Digia or elsewhere.

Unless activity has been on-going elsewhere that we don't know about yet.

I tend to agree that this is more probable than not. :(

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

We can only speculate at this point, no one has any hard facts

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Chuck already got all the details .... ;)

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

If that is correct, I think it's safe to say that PR1.3 will not be released ever. I mean the version number indicates this was 21st of March..

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Some people with N950 got already a sort of PR 1.3 ...

So it will come out ... one day ... maybe in 2200 maybe in 3 weeks ...

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Yeah, seems like you're right. PR1.2 is 2012.07-01_.. I guess it was available around week 7/8 for the public. So this is in fact great news :cool:

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

what is great about 21st week when its already in the past and there is still no 1.3 ? Not that i expect much from 1.3 ... There was barely something i noticed with 1.2 and 1.3 will be even smaller

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