Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Yeah posted that yesterday here...
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...18#post1227518
Sooo disappointing.... :(
Anyone who doesn't think Flop's totally biased now.
Well, they're simply deluding themselves or aren't fully informed.

Yeah that one came after the story mariusmssj posted.
User comments in that one are just as ludicrous. :rolleyes:

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

I doesn't mean anything, you're not meant to read anything into it, it's simply a snapshot.
If they're still actively working on it (& most evidence suggests they are) then there's bound to be newer builds.
Or it has been frozen since then, and they're just testing it etc...

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

I don't think we have to wait long now, Maxian's mails confirms it is imminent. However a really annoying issue is that some unlocked product codes have to wait far longer than than needed after first release. Plus its also the same code every update :(

I'm pretty happy to receive PR1.3 very soon even if its only performance improvements.

what do you think we will see in PR1.3?

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

I would be happy with bug fixes and minor performance improvements :D

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Same here. Fix the obvious and very annoying bugs like stuck/hanging 3G / WiFi connections, performance lags that pops up even with nothing open and improve the camera. I can't be that bad, it must be software optimization that is needed. Last but not least, fix the poor integration with Exchange. Calendar entries gets corrupted as soon as you edit/create them on the N9 for example. These bugs have been known for a long time and it is time to fix them now.

Most other feel good enhancement seem to be taken care of by the community which I think is great by the way.

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

yeah right :mad: the most stupid and ridicilous rumor so far :@

it really is time for mynokiablog to shut up or get this in theyr heads:

NOKIA IS WP ONLY

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Well June's almost over anyone wanna start placing bets when this damn thing is coming out......I call September '12.

Can't they at least invest ONE more person on the team?? I mean they really are being d**** to everyone that bought the N9 which they so confidently repeated their "devoted" support for years on. They wanna back their claim of support then it's about time they give me my money back! Can't see their next update satisfying majority of N9 users. I could see, however, satisfaction amongst majority of N9 users if they got some $$ back.

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Nokia is walking dead, N9 is walking dead from Nokia's point of view. Unfortunately, if you're unhappy about Nokia's support, your best bet is to sell your N9 now and look elsewhere.

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Harmattan Public Bugzilla closed in March. (not accepting any new bugs)
Comments trail on the Nokia Dev website for this indicated that the team still intended to provide ongoing support and bug fixes for sec, performance etc, but would not be accepting new bug reports from the Public.
No more new bug reports form the "public" does not mean no new bugs to be reported
Bugfixes and performance enhancements already reported or identified internally for addressing are expected to continue to be fixed.
Whilst it was odd to close the public bug submission portal so soon after 1.2 was released, it's also fair to assume that any new bugs identified in pr1.2 would already be submitted.
I would suggest that even if 1.3 is the last major update for Harmattan, it doesn't mean that others may not trickle down afterwards.
It's easy in the current environment to lay the blame for any delays in rolling out pr1.3 at Elop's feet (as a part of the destroy all potential MS competition from within), but the team has been silent for a while now and the delays may in fact be just as easily due to additional fixes being rolled up and included in 1.3 by the Harmattan/Meego Dev team.

I would laugh if the "small" but important update ended up being ACL rolled into 1.3..........

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Yeah folks who've been around long enough know that this is def. the last major update, but that there may still be minor updates going forward.
They did officially say several times that the N9 will be supported till 2015 or for "years" after it's release etc.
Despite all the recent chaos I expect them to hold true to that, perhaps contracting out the work very soon though.
We've also had lotsa tips to suggest it'll be mostly a perf/sec/stability/usability (i.e. bug-fix) focused release, but w/a few "significant"' features.
I doubt it will add as many features as PR1.2, but hopefully there's a few very significant ones that reflect the widest popular interest/demand.

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Last October or so I received a major update for my 5800xm. On a three year old phone!
So, I still hold good hopes on the N9. Samsung has a tradition in abandoning it's customers, not Nokia.

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Many of the contributors there are aware of that, they just like to play mind games...
And to actively seed doubt over whether Maemo6x->MeeGo OR Meltemi + Qt could've/would've worked.

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Thread should be renamed to " N9 PR 1.3 by end of 2012 " IMHO ...

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Even if it's not out till Sept. it'd still be doing better than the N900, in-terms of speed of delivery of major updates.
Then again, that's not exactly an awesome benchmark to live up to, & I hope several more minor updates come, unlike the N900.

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

I'm just going to leave this here.

https://twitter.com/NokiaPilipinas/s...51355382579201

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

All small signs point to possible 1.3 release, i think it might actually come true.

But i don't think it will be June since we only have 1 more day left of it!

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

I guess it's clear now that the update is definitely coming and it will happen soon. The "small but valuable" description that I was constantly seeing makes me think of performance/UI/resource management improvements or bugfixes and I can't say I dislike that. I'll take these over features anytime.

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

....And please ,please, PLEASE... do a decibel boost in the music playback (via headphones).

Like the one we had on the N900 (boosting output from 88% to 100%)

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

theres an app for that...

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Look what I just received

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they dont have clue what they talk about. Meego and QT is plain dead inside nokia. Stop beleive anything nokia saying now they are liers!!!

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

I sent am email to Elop regarding future updates for the N9 and got this reply:

"I am pleased to confirm that we will continue to support N9. We will be putting out another SW release and even after that there will be support as needed.

Best regards,
Jyrki Rosenberg
Head of MeeGo"

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

That's fully compatible with PR 1.3 + security fixes after that, which is what we actually had for the N900.

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

OK i got reply from Lithuanian Nokia firmware help centre, they said that there are future updates after P.R.1.2 and more than 1. They also said sorry as their not allowed to disclose any release dates

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

they are LIERS!!! PR1.3 is last!

STOP DREAM!

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old: mp-harmattan-001-pr_40.2012.21-3_all.deb
new: mp-harmattan-001-pr_40.2012.21-3.001.19_all.deb

changes: new nolo

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

How you get to know this?

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

When it comes to NOKIA I dream BIG!!!! :D

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

what is "nolo"?

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Nokia Loader, is like grub, u-boot, etc., but only for harmattan.

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Ohh well that's interesting, maybe it's to stop the ICS loading ? or just add improvement to the booting of the phone

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This is just a theory and speculation so don't bother to take it seriously :D But here is some optimistic thoughts of forums putting it together...

Is it possible that Nokia will update on meltemi with n9 or some of its futures? I mean n9 is enough cheap and still fresh for a smart phone generally. Costs just 199e in local stores in Finland and maybe nokia didn't want to bring new uncompleted stuff in the game when the price is good for n9 against the competition with cheapest androind phones. Meltemi has been said to be almost same thing as Harmattan so what is the point to bring new brand with same stuff? Meltemi were meant to be the os replacing symbian or s40 as on the cheaper phone markets, but n9 does the job already right? I mean 199e for a meego phone against 300-600 Lumia??? We all know whos the winner here don't we?:rolleyes:
There might be two reasons for cheap prices for n9. First and I think more likely it has already paid of the engineering costs and it sells more than Nokia hoped in the beginning why the manufacturing is cheaper as well or they will end the story of n9 soon which seems to me unlikely because n9 seems to be still in production when nokia started to sell it in US. Also rumors keeps telling that n9 has sold more than Lumia devices which is a little bit awkward for Microsoft relationship, why Nokia won't tell the true selling numbers and keeps telling just numbers together with symbian which is really dead, just reasonable i think. Also the boss of Elop and other stockholders wants some bonuses with Nokia and if the share costs under 1,5e there might not be another way than up. So in the time things comes to win win win situation with a Big IF with the cash problem. How long Nokia can keep going in hidden?
I believe that the support for n9 will continues in 2015 as they say and we might see new versions of the nokia maps and drive at least. I'mean there was plenty of updates for my older e71 phone for a many years and I wonder why Nokia won't keep their customers happy? Nokia has traditions for that comparing to Samsung or some other manufacturers. And they know the value to keep their customers happy, doesn't they? Only Nokia knows how many n9:s has been sold or does someone has relevant information for that? Also Nokia keeps saying that they still doesn't have all the eggs in the same basket. Strategy might be that they put all the market intention on the windows phone when it gives some privacy and time for other projects.:cool: No expectations no fails right? Only thing what is sure is that hole story of n9 is a black horse/sheep card in history of Nokia and we just can hope that Elop sees the numbers correctly which I believe he does after the microsoft fails.
So the game isn't over yet :D One good reason for delaying PR 1.3 is that it can't be publicly first on the priority list when "all" the muscles are on the Lumia and Lumia just got its update on 7.5 and some new candy, so I think we n9 owners will be happy soon enough too.

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

NO, NO, NO, NO

NO, only security fix

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You seem to be pretty sure about your sources. So, thank you so far.
Do you know if there will be a future update following the PR 1.3?

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@bumperdom: I wished I could see it as positive as you do. But who knows... thinking positively certainly isn't wrong as long as you don't get disappointed.

Meltemi on N9 that will never happen and the N9 might be cheap in some countries, in other it's still a very expensive phone.

Any "smart" or normal working company would react the way you and many would, keep promoting a N9 or even be working on a future device with MeeGo. But with Nokia it's different - no management book can explain you that ;) They are corrupted and there are things going on with Microsoft which won't be published.

In other words we cannot say at all what the future of N9 is - we have to be happy with what we get now. But there's always space for surprises like that all the sudden Nokia Suites supports the phone. It was clearly a management decision to not support the phone (a NS developer answered this way after he couldn't convince anyone why N9 users should only have NokiaLink).

Nokia is like a ship with a stubborn captain who wants to reach an inaccessible aim: Windows Phone. Rather they get there, get lost so that nobody will win at the end or impact with an ice berg which would be the end.

I hope PR1.3 will bring many bug fixes and speed (esp. better memory handling), so that we have a fast, flawless working phone. But I'm sure the Harmattan team is doing their best and want us to get a complete update - maybe that's the reason we haven't gotten yet the update.

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

I think this spillikin from Eldar Murtazin is an interesting read.

http://www.mobile-review.com/article...i-176-en.shtml

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No its only prepareing for wp upgrade endof q3 because then harmattan stops work to make sure even more customers get angry at nokia. Atleast how elop and his failboard want it to be...

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Lies anywhere in there
I’m a liar I’m in a dream
Goin’ my own way
Nothing to rely on

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Yep as said a gazillion times now, IF there is anything after 1.3...
It'll only be minor updates focused only on perf/sec/stability/usability bug-fixes.
Tis extremely unlikely that there'll by any more major updates...